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Interesting. A few days ago we saw a trio of Airs headed down the winding highway toward Pescadero. Might have been press cars.
It depends on whether the general public is just reading the articles or going to web sites like this to get the other side of the story. The articles really glaze over some of the problems owners have had as if they do not exist.A lot of great publicity. I wonder how this is translating to sales especially if lucid can’t keep up with demand due to the slow ramp up
Yep..... Its always had.a pricing problem because Lucid doesn't seem to know what it wants to be. A performance vehicle or luxury vehicle? They've gone for both even though the marketing has always been focused on luxury. The downside is that when they've included both, owners are certainly paying for it. Do luxury owners want to spend the extra $$ for the performance as well? By the look of the reservation numbers, it doesn't seem like it.Plus virtually all the articles talked about how expensive the car is...
If the larger battery for range and extra horsepower were not offered for the price of 139.5K, I would not have bought my Lucid GT. I would have bought the Taycan Turbo instead.Yep..... Its always had.a pricing problem because Lucid doesn't seem to know what it wants to be. A performance vehicle or luxury vehicle? They've gone for both even though the marketing has always been focused on luxury. The downside is that when they've included both, owners are certainly paying for it. Do luxury owners want to spend the extra $$ for the performance as well? By the look of the reservation numbers, it doesn't seem like it.
I've seen numerous videos from Lucid staff saying they're not a performance car but a luxury car. Yet, they release a "Performance" model and the GT is 819hp. The AGT should have been around $110,000 to compete with the EQS but it got priced $30K more so the extra HP and extra battery has certainly bumped the price up.
Coming from a 2018 Panamera Turbo that did 0-60 in 3.5 seconds, I prefer that kind of acceleration.I think a lot of people are buying on range and luxury, with performance a distant consideration as long as the car drives well. With range, some degree of performance comes at relatively low incremental manufacturing cost, as the huge battery is already there. For me, acceleration in excess of about five seconds 0-60 is more of a talking point than anything genuinely useful, having already nauseated myself sufficiently with my previous Model 3 perf.
I really don’t think there is any schizophrenia with lucids approach at all. BMW and Mercedes have been producing luxury sport sedans for half a century. Tesla upped the game but Lucid brought luxury much more into focus. If you want luxury buy a touring, if you want more performance buy a GT or Dream. It’s that simpleYep..... Its always had.a pricing problem because Lucid doesn't seem to know what it wants to be. A performance vehicle or luxury vehicle? They've gone for both even though the marketing has always been focused on luxury. The downside is that when they've included both, owners are certainly paying for it. Do luxury owners want to spend the extra $$ for the performance as well? By the look of the reservation numbers, it doesn't seem like it.
I've seen numerous videos from Lucid staff saying they're not a performance car but a luxury car. Yet, they release a "Performance" model and the GT is 819hp. The AGT should have been around $110,000 to compete with the EQS but it got priced $30K more so the extra HP and extra battery has certainly bumped the price up.
I really don’t think there is any schizophrenia with lucids approach at all. BMW and Mercedes have been producing luxury sport sedans for half a century. Tesla upped the game but Lucid brought luxury much more into focus. If you want luxury buy a touring, if you want more performance buy a GT or Dream. It’s that simple
Yeah, They are all over Twitter. Looks like they are trying to generate some positive Buzz out there as the Earnings Call draws nearer. Can’t get here soon enough for me.Lucid flew a bunch of car reviewers in last week, here are some of the reviews that came out of that event
- Tested: 2022 Lucid Air Grand Touring Dazzles with Clever Design and Inspired Engineering, Car & Driver
- Lucid’s Air Grand Touring EV delivers luxurious speed and range, Engadget
- Review: 2022 Lucid Air Grand Touring plays follow-the-leader, Motor Authority
- 2022 Lucid Air Grand Touring Performance First Drive Review: Exactly as Advertised, CNET
- 2022 Lucid Air Grand Touring Performance First Drive Review: Swift, Stylish And Streamlined, InsideEVs
- Lucid Air First Drive Review: New kid in town beats everyone up, Autoblog
- 2022 Lucid Air Grand Touring First Drive: Electric Upstart Leads The Pack, Slashgear
- 2022 Lucid Air Grand Touring First Drive: Bright Future Baby, Motor1
- The Lucid Air Grand Touring Makes the Tesla Model S Feel Kinda Pointless, Jalopnik
I find this statement absolutely hilarious considering this is an owners forum, lolI’m glad to see all these great “previews” but I’m not putting much stock to it because it doesn’t represent actual ownership. End of the day, it’s all about the stocks.
When I look at your picture, all I see is the red tractor. So jealous - even though I live in the city and have absolutely no use for such a beast.One has to keep in mind the average American is living from paycheck to paycheck and has large balances on their credit cards. Folks that can honestly afford the higher end Airs are a small minority of car buyers. The GT I have on order costs more than the original 2 story side of my house I had built in 1995….
So I found the Motor Trend article very interesting. Johnny mentioned that the Air Grand Touring Performance has a modified suspension compared with the Dream Edition that he feels improves the handling performance even better. Curious if those improvements will be available retroactively for the Dream???When I look at your picture, all I see is the red tractor. So jealous - even though I live in the city and have absolutely no use for such a beast.
I am a retired International Grower and have done consultation on food crops all over the planet and worked with all sorts of machinery for food production and processing in my career. The 65 HP Kubota in the picture is actually quite small compared to the giants for food crops. I use it to mow my front yard with a 8 foot wide estate mower though I also have a smaller tractor with cab and two zero turn mowers.When I look at your picture, all I see is the red tractor. So jealous - even though I live in the city and have absolutely no use for such a beast.