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nfsdragster said:
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Good luck with your install. BTW, when you plug in the Lucid charger, the Lucid logo should light up; if it doesn't, that means you didn't shove the connecting cable into the charger hard enough. Happened to both my BIL and me; we had red faces, especially me since I was the one who called CS.
 
emoylv said:
Good luck with your install. BTW, when you plug in the Lucid charger, the Lucid logo should light up; if it doesn't, that means you didn't shove the connecting cable into the charger hard enough. Happened to both my BIL and me; we had red faces, especially me since I was the one who called CS.
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Haha , thanks for the heads-up might take a few days or weeks to get it but will definitely fall back here if something doesn't work out. And with the above mentioned equipment. It should charge 30-40 miles an hour right ?
 
nfsdragster said:
Haha , thanks for the heads-up might take a few days or weeks to get it but will definitely fall back here if something doesn't work out. And with the above mentioned equipment. It should charge 30-40 miles an hour right ?
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Assuming you have 240v, it should charge at max 9.6kWh. I think that equates to roughly your estimate. I've never stayed up to see if the charge rate decreases as you near 80% or 100% SOC. Others can jump in with their experience on that.
 
emoylv said:
Assuming you have 240v, it should charge at max 9.6kWh. I think that equates to roughly your estimate. I've never stayed up to see if the charge rate decreases as you near 80% or 100% SOC. Others can jump in with their experience on that.
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I get 36 to 38 miles per hour charge rate with 9.6 kW. It will not slow down until above 99% SOC
 
Adnillien said:
I get 36 to 38 miles per hour charge rate with 9.6 kW. It will not slow down until above 99% SOC
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I don’t believe my charge rate slows down either, though I only charge to 90% at home. I just ran downstairs to check, before charging finished. At 80% my home charger (an old Tesla unit) was charging at 46 mph at 12 kW.
 
Thanks for all the info and insight! I’ve owned my Touring since April ‘23 - love the car even with the shortcomings…. ride is phenomenal and the shortcomings will be eliminated with s/w updates over time. Charging experience:

- have a NEMA 14/50 outlet installed in my garage. Cost $600.00. I leave the cable (that came with the car) plugged into the outlet (so as not to wear it out) and whenever the car is in the garage it is plugged in and charged to 80%. This seems to be the universal advice. If I’m going on a 75+ mile trip, I’ll charge to 90%, 95% or 100%. I’ll then charge to 80% upon arriving at my destination (EA charger) and then back to 90, 95 or 100 for my return trip.

- I have charged at EA fast chargers 5 times (Salem NH, Manchester NH, Nashua NH). If the EA charger is working (sometimes the EA screen on the charger is dead, but the charger still works), my experience has been acceptable. It seems the EA charger kWh correlates to how low the car is - the most I have gotten from an EA charger is 90 kWh when I was at 65% and charging to 80%. Over that charging session, the kWh dropped to 55 kWh by the end of my charging session. Other drivers I have met at EA chargers (non Lucid) seem to confirm this hypothesis that the EA charger output is correlated to the % charge the car is at when plugging in. I saw chatter on a thread someplace that seemed to indicate either (a) the electrical infrastructure or (b) the EA charger cooling, is why the EA charger throttles itself.

I have found there are plenty of 14/50 outlets at hotels and car dealerships that appear to be free. I’ve also found 30-minute free fast Volta chargers at a strip mall in Tilton NH. There are 6 of them spread about - some fast and some level 2.
 
Babalouie said:
Thanks for all the info and insight! I’ve owned my Touring since April ‘23 - love the car even with the shortcomings…. ride is phenomenal and the shortcomings will be eliminated with s/w updates over time. Charging experience:

- have a NEMA 14/50 outlet installed in my garage. Cost $600.00. I leave the cable (that came with the car) plugged into the outlet (so as not to wear it out) and whenever the car is in the garage it is plugged in and charged to 80%. This seems to be the universal advice. If I’m going on a 75+ mile trip, I’ll charge to 90%, 95% or 100%. I’ll then charge to 80% upon arriving at my destination (EA charger) and then back to 90, 95 or 100 for my return trip.

- I have charged at EA fast chargers 5 times (Salem NH, Manchester NH, Nashua NH). If the EA charger is working (sometimes the EA screen on the charger is dead, but the charger still works), my experience has been acceptable. It seems the EA charger kWh correlates to how low the car is - the most I have gotten from an EA charger is 90 kWh when I was at 65% and charging to 80%. Over that charging session, the kWh dropped to 55 kWh by the end of my charging session. Other drivers I have met at EA chargers (non Lucid) seem to confirm this hypothesis that the EA charger output is correlated to the % charge the car is at when plugging in. I saw chatter on a thread someplace that seemed to indicate either (a) the electrical infrastructure or (b) the EA charger cooling, is why the EA charger throttles itself.

I have found there are plenty of 14/50 outlets at hotels and car dealerships that appear to be free. I’ve also found 30-minute free fast Volta chargers at a strip mall in Tilton NH. There are 6 of them spread about - some fast and some level 2.
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Its a matter of keeping the battery healthy, the charge rate has to slow at a higher state of charge so that individual battery cells do not see too much voltage. Here is a charging curve for the Lcuid.

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Adnillien said:
Its a matter of keeping the battery healthy, the charge rate has to slow at a higher state of charge so that individual battery cells do not see too much voltage. Here is a charging curve for the Lcuid.

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Worth nothing that every EV does this and has a very roughly similar changing curve, with varying shape and much different charging rate (kW) levels.
 
Babalouie said:
Thanks for all the info and insight! I’ve owned my Touring since April ‘23 - love the car even with the shortcomings…. ride is phenomenal and the shortcomings will be eliminated with s/w updates over time. Charging experience:

- have a NEMA 14/50 outlet installed in my garage. Cost $600.00. I leave the cable (that came with the car) plugged into the outlet (so as not to wear it out) and whenever the car is in the garage it is plugged in and charged to 80%. This seems to be the universal advice. If I’m going on a 75+ mile trip, I’ll charge to 90%, 95% or 100%. I’ll then charge to 80% upon arriving at my destination (EA charger) and then back to 90, 95 or 100 for my return trip.

- I have charged at EA fast chargers 5 times (Salem NH, Manchester NH, Nashua NH). If the EA charger is working (sometimes the EA screen on the charger is dead, but the charger still works), my experience has been acceptable. It seems the EA charger kWh correlates to how low the car is - the most I have gotten from an EA charger is 90 kWh when I was at 65% and charging to 80%. Over that charging session, the kWh dropped to 55 kWh by the end of my charging session. Other drivers I have met at EA chargers (non Lucid) seem to confirm this hypothesis that the EA charger output is correlated to the % charge the car is at when plugging in. I saw chatter on a thread someplace that seemed to indicate either (a) the electrical infrastructure or (b) the EA charger cooling, is why the EA charger throttles itself.

I have found there are plenty of 14/50 outlets at hotels and car dealerships that appear to be free. I’ve also found 30-minute free fast Volta chargers at a strip mall in Tilton NH. There are 6 of them spread about - some fast and some level 2.
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Welcome, I didn’t realize you were in New England. We’re doing a Lucid owners drive 7/22, make sure you have it enabled on here that you can receive messages and I’ll send you an invite. The thread is here… https://lucidowners.com/threads/7-22-vs-7-15-for-new-england-owner-meetup.5936/
 
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Today I have completed my LCHCS installation. I installed 60 AMP due to my total home load limitation upto 150 and getting 46 per hour which is as expected about 48 per hour. I am getting following
Network FW version : 01.01.21 and Safety FW version : 02.14.51
Can anyone confirm weather it is updated version. Or how to install latest firmware.
Appreciate any feedback or any link where similar information available.
 
smartebiz said:
Today I have completed my LCHCS installation. I installed 60 AMP due to my total home load limitation upto 150 and getting 46 per hour which is as expected about 48 per hour. I am getting following
Network FW version : 01.01.21 and Safety FW version : 02.14.51
Can anyone confirm weather it is updated version. Or how to install latest firmware.
Appreciate any feedback or any link where similar information available.
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I can't confirm what the latest versions are, but mine is 01.01.25 (Network) and 02.14.54 (Safety). Delivered about 2 months ago. Installed about 1 month ago. I am interested to see how quickly you are updated if connected to the internet.
 
MountainAir said:
I can't confirm what the latest versions are, but mine is 01.01.25 (Network) and 02.14.54 (Safety). Delivered about 2 months ago. Installed about 1 month ago. I am interested to see how quickly you are updated if connected to the internet.
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thanks for the confirmation. I'll check whether I could do upgrade via internet or else will call customer care.
 
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