I spoke to Yusuf, headquarters sales advisor (he called after my inquiry about refundable deposit) and was very serious about alternative wheel options, especially the states that may require all season/winter tires.
Lucid does listen to feedback then!
Except that the Roadster is, at present, vaporware, and has been for the better part of a decade.
in f1 last year, some teams resorted to stripping paint off their cars to reduce weight. according to this tweet: the cars have about 6kg worth of paint, so when they strip it down, there is a theoretical reduction of ~0.18 sec/lap. obviously, f1 is at the far end of this current discussion spectrum, but i think we can draw parallels, especially since the sapphire has a track audience.
And the fact that Red Bull's F1 aero engineer contributed to the aerodynamics design of the Lucid.
really? adrian newey worked on the lucid?!
I don’t know if it was a current RB aero engineer or former one, but in their marketing materials they said the aero had been designed by a RB F1 aero engineer.
I understand limited production. There's no way they will have any left after 4 years (earliest I could get one). Alongside the others, I would hope for a trimotor in the GT line at that point.
Finally a fellow f1 fan!
He made the "blown diffuser" and pioneered so many things that eventually got banned for being too fast. Thats why the Air has good downforce while keeping drag to a minimum.
youre right. did a quick google search and a motortrend 2021 article that briefly touched on his contributions. not to get off topic, but here's a part from the article about it
sounds like they actually hired him away from redbull, so i wonder when he left and what he took from redbull (did he have insight in the 2022 f1 regulation changes that early on which he applied to lucid?), considering there's massive lead times from design concept to product delivery.
I really hate to sound pro Tesla, personally will not buy a Tesla due the the way they treat their customers. But if there is a car out there that is:
Because you get this with only two motors, albeit the GT Performance model:
robbreport.com
insideevs.com
I would say that plaid and sapphire are targeted towards different audiences. If I wanted just pure acceleration(read:drag car) I would get the Plaid by FAR. It is much cheaper. For a track car though, I wouldnt even consider the plaid even with its obvious price advantageBecause you get this with only two motors, albeit the GT Performance model:
Goodwill Hill Climb
Laguna Seca Hill Climb:
Lucid Air Was the Fastest Production Car at the Inaugural Laguna Seca Hillclimb
The Lucid Air Grand Touring Performance had the fastest run for a production vehicle at the inaugural Laguna Seca Hillclimb.
What would you get with three motors tuned for track performance? Hard to say for certain until it gets released, but you have solid examples/insights in the meantime:
Ride Along In A Lucid Air Sapphire Prototype As It Laps Laguna Seca
Ryan from The Kilowatts YouTube channel rode shotgun in a Lucid Air Sapphire prototype for two laps on Laguna Seca, with Ben Collins behind the wheel.
Join Us as We Sit In with the Lucid Air Sapphire's Development Engineers
At Virginia International Raceway, home of our annual Lightning Lap testing, we join Lucid's engineers as they tweak the 1200-plus-hp tri-motor Air Sapphire.www.caranddriver.com
You get all this in a five person, saloon style sedan with Nappa leather and other premium interior styling. Then you get all the space if you did want to take it out for grocery shopping. I won't rehash those stats. Car and Driver: https://www.caranddriver.com/lucid-motors/air
You get what you pay for. Tesla is a luxury brand as much as a Prius is a sports car, part of the pricing of a Lucid. The performance you are paying for between the two is exceptional as well. A car is a holistic purchase, not a few selected stats.
Charging networks will improve. Performance is not just straight line. Not sure what you mean by aftermarket support or the statistics to this claim. Luxury cars cost more, and better performance characteristics cost more.
So we go around and around. I don't know. This grows old.
I would like to see a Laguna lap time for the Sapphire. Better comparisons are to be made such as the M5 and other target cars for Lucid on the track, not a Model S Plaid. Anyone know what's so special about the M5? Why did they pick that car to be a benchmark?
F1 2022 had a development stop as it was originally meant to be introduced in 2021 but got delayed due to Covid. Anyways, that would mean he had a part in the RB16b and the RB18, which are the MOST dominant cars of all time in F1.
youre right. makes me wonder what the lead times are. if he left 2 years before rb18, he most likely would have worked extensively on the car design philosophy. but if he was hired like 4 years before rb18, maybe it was only conceptual? either way, derailed this thread long enough. back to topic
Its funny that almost every thread about Sapphire turns into a discussion of various cars. Perhaps because the sapphire crowd is more enthusiastic?
What are you seeing for convertible options? I still don’t see any. Figure Taycan will be one at some point. Others?
