It kept the lane on highway even on curves. There were 0 cars to pass when I went out for my drive. Did not test the nav route, so maybe it wasn't L3?
You guys are way ahead of me. Can you describe the differences between L2, L3, and L5 please?
| SAE Level | Name | Narrative definition | Execution of steering and acceleration/ deceleration | Monitoring of driving environment | Fallback performance of dynamic driving task | System capability (driving modes) | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Human driver monitors the driving environment | |||||||
| 0 | No Automation | The full-time performance by the human driver of all aspects of the dynamic driving task, even when "enhanced by warning or intervention systems" | Human driver | Human driver | Human driver | n/a | |
| 1 | Driver Assistance | The driving mode-specific execution by a driver assistance system of "either steering or acceleration/deceleration" | using information about the driving environment and with the expectation that the human driver performs all remaining aspects of the dynamic driving task | Human driver and system | Some driving modes | ||
| 2 | Partial Automation | The driving mode-specific execution by one or more driver assistance systems of both steering and acceleration/deceleration | System | ||||
| Automated driving system monitors the driving environment | |||||||
| 3 | Conditional Automation | The driving mode-specific performance by an automated driving system of all aspects of the dynamic driving task | with the expectation that the human driver will respond appropriately to a request to intervene | System | System | Human driver | Some driving modes |
| 4 | High Automation | even if a human driver does not respond appropriately to a request to intervene the car can pull over safely by guiding system | System | Many driving modes | |||
| 5 | Full Automation | under all roadway and environmental conditions that can be managed by a human driver | All driving modes |
I'll believe it when I see it. They didn't even ship with adaptive cruise control. If they have reliable L5, where are the promotional videos? Journalist ride-alongs during snowstorms?
Not level 3. Need to have your hands on the steering wheel, so level 2. No one is truly level 3 yet, although Tesla claims to be. Level 3 would be in the drivers seat, but can drive without touching the steering wheel. All cars currently require you to be touching the wheel, which makes them level 2 not 3. Yes, some will drive without your hand on the wheel for a short time, but once the car detects that hands are not present, the automation disengages.
It monitors me now *shakes fist* but the ADAS drove itself in AZ with no hands on wheel. I think once highway assist is out, the Air could probably do the L3 with no hands on wheel
This will affect the resale value of cars with no Dreamdrive pro hardware.
How is it different from Tesla? Isn’t always tied to vehicle? When we sell it new owner would have it?
From watching videos of the factory tour drives, they didn't have the driver monitor camera active yet. I think that even in hands free mode, they require that you seem to be looking at the road. When Lucid adds Traffic Jam Assist to Highway Pilot is when most would agree L3 has been achieved. GMC's Supercruise has been upgraded to include handsfree highway driving with automated lane change to pass slower vehicles but it is still considered L2. Honda's system in Japan was L2 until they added Traffic Jam Pilot which moved it to L3. So while there are very generic definitions of what constitutes L2 vs L3 which confuses all of us, there apparently exist specific requirements before government agencies will label a system L3.
Ahh, but isn't Blue Cruise only active on specific roads?
Yes, both Supercruise and Bluecruise are geofenced to activate only on highways that have been mapped. I think they rely on a 3rd party to have lidar mapped the highways.
