This was Friday, and I was charging to 90% because I was on the road trip. So, 62% of my battery in 41 minutes. The final 10% of the charge took about 15 of those minutes. No preconditioning. The charger was a split 350 so I was getting 175 max.
I agree with many of the others here that this is all academic. In the real world, where I've road tripped very often, even with my "slower" Touring I've never had an issue with my charging speed. The charger itself is far more likely to slow me down than the car is at this point, given the state of many chargers.
My last loaner, late last year. Charge it at valley fair, and got at or above 300kW, but don’t remember exactly. I don’t really pay attention because I don’t care, lol - it charges plenty fast, and a 20 minute stop is plenty for a few hundred miles of charge to get me to either where I want to go or the next stop.
Thanks for sharing! I realize most people here aren't that interested in the nerdy charging data, but I find it fascinating, especially how the different pack sizes and cell types compare at their limits. I've gone through several dozen DCFC sessions, and all the major issues I've seen have been due the the charger and not the car, save one isolated incident. I certainly appreciate the range my car is capable of, and that I'm able to recharge it quickly enough.
All this talk about charging is a big who cares. Again, it's just a dick measuring contest, because in the real world, charge to 100% before you leave, make one 10-minute stop and in the DE-P, you can travel 500 miles in a day. Make another 10 minute stop and you are at 650-700 miles in a day. It's a nothing burger, especially when compared to other EVS which don't give you the same comfort or driving ability as the Air. Who cares about an Ioniq 6 getting the same range? It's cramped, not as comfortable and not as fun to drive. A Taycan? Good luck fitting more than 2 people into that car, let alone 4 adults plus luggage. A Tesla? Can you hear yourself talk about driving 300 miles?
Fair! I nerd out about lots of things, but charging speeds just aren’t one of them.
The Lucid and the luxury car segment is entirely a dick measuring contest. What do you need 800hp for? What do you need nappa leather for? What do you need 20 minute charging for? These things are all extravagances. That's how you get people to pay $100k+ for a car...
Nope. Not at all.
FWIW, I think learning about the limits of what each car is capable of at its limits and what current technology as a whole is capable of really interesting, even though it usually has little impact on real world practicality or usability in general. Of course simply judging a car by its peak charging rate alone makes no sense. There is certainly a point where charging speeds matter, however. Would you be satisfied if your peak charging speed was 50-100kW with the same battery size? Of course not.
I honestly wish you could’ve been there for the factory tour. To watch the attention to detail, the unbelievably tight tolerances, and the love that each operator puts into the car, you would come away feeling differently. I already loved my Lucid, but I came away from that tour with an entirely different appreciation for the company and the corporate culture. I am proud to be a tiny part of this venture.
The SavageGeese sapphire video also significantly contributes to that feeling, if you couldn't make it to that tour!
Totally agree with all of that. Just useful to distinguish it as an “academic” exercise for anyone looking on, as without that context it can appear as a problem rather than a curiosity and feeding our inner nerdFWIW, I think learning about the limits of what each car is capable of at its limits and what current technology as a whole is capable of really interesting, even though it usually has little impact on real world practicality or usability in general. Of course simply judging a car by its peak charging rate alone makes no sense. There is certainly a point where charging speeds matter, however. Would you be satisfied if your peak charging speed was 50-100kW with the same battery size? Of course not.
Luckily, Lucid has the right combination of charging speed, curve, and range that make it one of the best roadtrip-capable EVs. The driving dynamics, comfort, and space just make it that much better. There's a reason that I still very much love road tripping even my lower range Touring.
I mean... I drove an actual E-GMP car. I agree they have great charging curves. (Previous GV60 owner). My car would peak at 244kw. I've gotten 10-80% in 18 minutes before. But I do want to note that I own a OBD device and my battery health on my GV60 w/ 8000 miles was at 87% so it had some massive degradation. My Audi e-tron GT which only has 5900 miles is at 90%.
And again, as with anything: pros and cons.
I learn something new, every day:
I agree with the premise but... 800hp? I don't NEED 800hp! I NEED 1111hp! That's how big my member is! Or is it inverse? I forget!
They’re the same as the GT-P and Sapphire, but yeah every other trim uses different cells. That’s why those three have 118kWh with the same number of cells as the GT, which has 112kWh.
