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Polestar 6, fisker ronin are confirmed convertibles.What are you seeing for convertible options? I still don’t see any. Figure Taycan will be one at some point. Others?
Polestar 6, fisker ronin are confirmed convertibles.What are you seeing for convertible options? I still don’t see any. Figure Taycan will be one at some point. Others?
Rim weight is a different. It's considered unsprung weight and is not supported by the suspension. Everything supported by the suspension is considered sprung weight.How much does the glass roof weigh? I don't understand how some weight can make such a difference. The motors weigh 160lbs with everything at a weight reduction of 1/3 to competitors: https://www.wardsauto.com/2022-10-best-engines-propulsion-systems/lucid-air-monstrous-lightweight
Does 50+ pounds really make a difference per motor? 3 x motors is 150lbs. The window is how much: 50-60? I don't know the weight. What I'm really trying to get at is you could put an adult in the passenger seat to cancel out the weight savings, particularly the heftier American body. So how much does the difference actually matter?
I've also seen people note a difference in rim weight being noticeable. Haven't had the chance to experience anything of the sort, so I was hoping for insight from those experienced on the actual difference in drive from the weight difference, particularly in a 5,200lb car.
Don't forget, Lucid also has to appeal to range with drag CD. Lucid, please make a coupe and go wild on it!My opinion is that lucid could sell more sapphires if they made enough visual changes for it to be obviously noticeable. I'm not embarrassed to say this but I buy cars not only based on performance, ride, etc but also largely on looks and if I'm going to pay significantly more for a model, I want it to look significantly different inside and out from the "standard" models as well as have better performance. Look at AMG, BMW M, Audi RS, etc. I often want the performance versions less so for the actual useable performance than for a particular look (and sound in ICE cars). Yes I know companies like vw with their golf R doesn't do this but just about every company selling cars at lucid's price does this with their special edition cars. The sapphire looks a bit different but, to me, not drastic enough... Maybe it needs a roof scoop, lol
I think that was kind of the point.Don't forget, Lucid also has to appeal to range with drag CD. Lucid, please make a coupe and go wild on it!
I dont really think lucid is too focused on making a roadster now.. which is a shame.I think that was kind of the point.
Sapphire coupe version, and roadster type cars can easily be even lower CD because they're usually even shorter to the ground, more sporty so it can be less functional and the looks can be altered a bit too.
Perfect example is the non existent Tesla Roadster.
The normal Tesla's are hideous (imo) but the Roadster actually looks very good.
We don't know if they do, or they don't.I dont really think lucid is too focused on making a roadster now.. which is a shame.
This will be most important for the companys survival, so I agree. By 2030 though I would love a roadster.We don't know if they do, or they don't.
Hopefully, they do.
Right now, let them focus (full time) on the Gravity and it's variants.
Believe me, nothing will EVER live up to the widow maker name as much as the OG 911 turbo. That thing was terrifying even with its stovetop rear wing."By 2030 though I would love a roadster".
You sob, I envy you. I'm 64 now, you are a kid. By that time, 2030, i only wish I'd be still alive, especially driving a "widow maker", the Sapphire daily.
Thanks, I put my name on build waitlist for the Polestar 6. We’ll see if it ever gets produced. As much as I (and several of my friends) want a high end EV convertible, the market just doesn’t seem big enough. Ergo Elon’s long ago promise.Polestar 6, fisker ronin are confirmed convertibles.
Other than for bragging rights, why would someone buy a car with this much HP unless the individual wanted to track it?I'm also wondering how many potential buyers are really considering this car for the purpose of tracking it. I got an uneasy feeling from the email that they are struggling to get orders for the car.
Other than for bragging rights, why would someone buy a car with this much HP unless the individual wanted to track it?
A rhetorical question I presume. Why do any of us need the performance of any of the Lucid models? Why not get a Prius if it were as luxurious, spacious, and handled similarly?Other than for bragging rights, why would someone buy a car with this much HP unless the individual wanted to track it?
The Prius, at least the original Prius, was a dog. Somewhere between an original Prius and a Saphire is a sweet spot for non track driving. My personal sweet spot is based on how the vehicle will do when driving 65 mph on a 2 lane country road and see a car pulling a trailer up a steep hill ahead that has a passing lane. I want to be able to step on the accelerator and get by that vehicle before the hill/passing lane ends. And, yes, this is a real scenario for the drive to or from a spectacular golf course I like to play (Quntero).A rhetorical question I presume. Why do any of us need the performance of any of the Lucid models? Why not get a Prius if it were as luxurious, spacious, and handled similarly?
This car is on my list. Do I ever plan to track it or even my GT? Eh, probably not. I will take it through Trail of the Dragon and other mountain, twisty roads with vigor and enthusiasm. Given the space and chance, I have and would certainly floor it to feel the acceleration of the car.
People get these types of cars because they want the best. Sometimes that can be for bragging rights. Sometimes that can be to simply enjoy glimpses of the fully capability during normal driving.
That's the essence of it. Enjoying the drive. I would be interested in a lower horsepower version of the Lucid with the same 500+ mile range. Give it a 0-60 time in the 8 second realm maybe.The Prius, at least the original Prius, was a dog. Somewhere between an original Prius and a Saphire is a sweet spot for non track driving. My personal sweet spot is based on how the vehicle will do when driving 65 mph on a 2 lane country road and see a car pulling a trailer up a steep hill ahead that has a passing lane. I want to be able to step on the accelerator and get by that vehicle before the hill/passing lane ends. And, yes, this is a real scenario for the drive to or from a spectacular golf course I like to play (Quntero).
Depending upon the weight of the car, high 400s through 500s will comfortably do that.
But, ultimately, different strokes for different folks. So go for it!
What you are looking for is an electric version of the Toyota 86 -- a relatively slow vehicle that is designed for the twisties with a big battery. While it is a unicorn now, eventually your car will exist.That's the essence of it. Enjoying the drive. I would be interested in a lower horsepower version of the Lucid with the same 500+ mile range. Give it a 0-60 time in the 8 second realm maybe.
That would be the complete opposite of the Sapphire though. More or less, I wonder what they could take from the technology in the Sapphire to flip it on its head for a super long range, lightweight vehicle if horsepower is a limiting factor in the equation.
That's the essence of it. Enjoying the drive. I would be interested in a lower horsepower version of the Lucid with the same 500+ mile range. Give it a 0-60 time in the 8 second realm maybe.
That would be the complete opposite of the Sapphire though. More or less, I wonder what they could take from the technology in the Sapphire to flip it on its head for a super long range, lightweight vehicle if horsepower is a limiting factor in the equation.
I think the problem may be the high end speed. EVs tend to lose power at the top end so while it would certainly be possible, the car might not be satisfactory on highways and other higher speed roads. The 0-60 may just be a by product.I think many EV manufactures put too much emphasis on 0-60 times for bragging rights. I enjoy the occasional vomit inducing speed thrill but wouldn’t it be nice to have a lighter car with less brisk acceleration and more range? Since I am not an automobile engineer , and have no idea what I am talking about , my opinion is irrelevant. It is probably not a feat easily achieved given today’s battery chemistry.