Lucid Launch Event

[muhanadkais]

It’s very, very nice. To be honest, I prefer the Pure interior, but only because I think it’s a bit cleaner with fewer materials. The textured leather is definitely a very soft leather though, not plasticky at all.



I couldn’t tell the difference. My wife said she could and it felt a little rougher but it wasn’t a massive difference. Certainly not burlap.


Just the lighting.

Any pictures for the Pure’s interior?

 

[Babyrocko1908]

Any pictures for the Pure’s interior?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1592957826821152768

 

[Tesla2.0]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1592957826821152768

I dig this Fathom Blue.

Do we know those Air Pure rim Michelin tires are summer or all-season tires?

 

[Babyrocko1908]

I dig this Fathom Blue.

Do we know those Air Pure rim Michelin tires are summer or all-season tires?

If they're the standard 20's they are Summer. Only the 19's come with AS tires for now I guess.

 

[Mr_rhythm]

A first drive follow-up from Motor Trend. Still great feedback...

2023 Lucid Air Touring First Drive: The Sweet Spot?

For when your luxury EV only needs 425 miles of range and a 3.4-second sprint to 60.

www.motortrend.com

 

[wklglider]

Hope that I am wrong. But, until I see something contradicting my belief in writing, I will remain skeptical. I can wait until the cars start shipping. If need be, I'll take a $300 loss.

Can you backoff from a binding order? https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/binding-order
Looks like this depends on Lucid to decide whether you can.

 

[Touring]

Can you backoff from a binding order? https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/binding-order
Looks like this depends on Lucid to decide whether you can.

It would be a VERY bad look for Lucid to try to enforce a binding order on a customer that wanted out.

 

[hydbob]

It would be a VERY bad look for Lucid to try to enforce a binding order on a customer that wanted out.

A binding order is a binding order. The fault would be your own and not Lucids if you wanted out. I wouldn't hold it against them.

 

[Tesla2.0]

It would be a VERY bad look for Lucid to try to enforce a binding order on a customer that wanted out.

Reservation <> binding order.

Once VIN delivers to you and ready to go thru assembling, it becomes binding order.

 

[muhanadkais]

Can you backoff from a binding order? https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/binding-order
Looks like this depends on Lucid to decide whether you can.

Not true, anyone can cancel his order but the $300 will not be refunded unless if there is any misleading here and there.

 

[MadMax]

Like an idiot, I PRINTED out my agreement to purchase the Air Pure RWD and left it in Massachusetts. I am in Florida right now, so I don't have the specs or the agreement in front of me. However, if you look at the current configurator, it states that the Lucid Air Pure is available in AWD or RWD and UP TO 480hp. I believe that the language on the Lucid site has changed since I placed my reservation in May, and converted it to an order in August.

I am quite sure it said 480hp and not “up to”. Being a natural lead foot and car junkie I always notice those fine points. It is possible that the RWD will indeed be 480hp. A more powerful rear engine, software upgrade and even lighter weight could all produce 480 hp. The only problem is WE DONT. KNOW. Sorry for the caps. To be honest I think they put the cart before the horse…or in this case the hp before the facts. Having owned about 12 vehicles in my life including Acura TL Type S, Mercedes C300, Genesis GV80, Kia Stinger GT and now a Polestar 2 I never had to “prognosticate” what their hp would be. I know Lucid is the new kid on the block but don’t offer something you later can’t deliver. That has a tendency to shed doubt on your stability and trustworthiness. I know it’s a car company but you still have to do right by your customer, especially when you’re new and shiny. Deliver on your stated hp.

 

[borski]

I am quite sure it said 480hp and not “up to”. Being a natural lead foot and car junkie I always notice those fine points. It is possible that the RWD will indeed be 480hp. A more powerful rear engine, software upgrade and even lighter weight could all produce 480 hp. The only problem is WE DONT. KNOW. Sorry for the caps. To be honest I think they put the cart before the horse…or in this case the hp before the facts. Having owned about 12 vehicles in my life including Acura TL Type S, Mercedes C300, Genesis GV80, Kia Stinger GT and now a Polestar 2 I never had to “prognosticate” what their hp would be. I know Lucid is the new kid on the block but don’t offer something you later can’t deliver. That has a tendency to shed doubt on your stability and trustworthiness. I know it’s a car company but you still have to do right by your customer, especially when you’re new and shiny. Deliver on your stated hp.

The reason it says “up to” is likely because the HP varies based on battery charge, like with every EV. If anything, this is actually Lucid being *more* transparent, not less.

 

[MadMax]

The reason it says “up to” is likely because the HP varies based on battery charge, like with every EV. If anything, this is actually Lucid being *more* transparent, not less.

You may be right my friend however at 25% charge my Polestar 2 still flies. For that matter I’ve had it down to 17% and it still flew. Ive never seen an EV base the cars horsepower on “how much charge you have”. That would literally be 3 or more different hp readings for the same car I would think. But if you do find an EV that states various hps on their sticker or website please let me know ! Just like an ICE vehicle or any of the known Lucid models…they state the horsepower. As much as I admire the Lucid I can’t give them that kind of stretch

 

[C28]

The reason it says “up to” is likely because the HP varies based on battery charge, like with every EV. If anything, this is actually Lucid being *more* transparent, not less.

Wrong; following that logic it would say it for every horsepower rating for all variants. If you are referring to maximum amperage output by a given battery configuration (for example, 88 kw or 92kw), then maybe. Yes I know it varies by charge level, show me one other example of an EV manufacturer listing horsepower at 80% battery charge. To fact check, the model 3 battery back from 2018 does 450hp output at 400 volts 75kw. No excuse a more modern lucid 800 volt 88kw pack can’t output this power level for RWD.

We all need to stop be Lucid apologists and hold them accountable for the false advertising. This is a software limited business decision to create greater tiering, plain and simple. Instead of complaining about my comment, I welcome any one else to explain another reason technically please.

 

[Tesla2.0]

You may be right my friend however at 25% charge my Polestar 2 still flies. For that matter I’ve had it down to 17% and it still flew. Ive never seen an EV base the cars horsepower on “how much charge you have”. That would literally be 3 or more different hp readings for the same car I would think. But if you do find an EV that states various hps on their sticker or website please let me know ! Just like an ICE vehicle or any of the known Lucid models…they state the horsepower. As much as I admire the Lucid I can’t give them that kind of stretch

Different battery size affect transmission speed of electricity based on 2nd Law of Thermodynamic. Lucid has industry unique 900V charge architecture as opposed of Polestar 2’s standard 400V like Tesla. And Lucid’s compact motor has more dense HP output than all car makers out there. I think Lucid is being prudent releasing final official numbers with many data points still being collected.

I was curious when I got my AGT. I thought it was 800 HP, then I’ve heard 860, and eventually at Q2 Earning call officially published for 819 HP result. But news outlets have different numbers all over places. I don’t care about 800, 819 or 860. It is much faster than I needed. Some of these numbers collections are not straight forward to finalize require statistical crunching. It takes thousands of iterations bc many variance factors such as temperature, weather, wind, SOC, etc when performing benchmark tests.

 

[muhanadkais]

Wrong; following that logic it would say it for every horsepower rating for all variants. If you are referring to maximum amperage output by a given battery configuration (for example, 88 kw or 92kw), then maybe. Yes I know it varies by charge level, show me one other example of an EV manufacturer listing horsepower at 80% battery charge. To fact check, the model 3 battery back from 2018 does 450hp output at 400 volts 75kw. No excuse a more modern lucid 800 volt 88kw pack can’t output this power level for RWD.

We all need to stop be Lucid apologists and hold them accountable for the false advertising. This is a software limited business decision to create greater tiering, plain and simple. Instead of complaining about my comment, I welcome any one else to explain another reason technically please.

I think Peter was very clear when he stated that RWD and AWD will be one motor versus two motors. He would mention it if the battery pack is smaller. I think I have a written email from Lucid sale stated that the RWD will deliver 480HP with 405 miles.

 

[Adnillien]

Wrong; following that logic it would say it for every horsepower rating for all variants. If you are referring to maximum amperage output by a given battery configuration (for example, 88 kw or 92kw), then maybe. Yes I know it varies by charge level, show me one other example of an EV manufacturer listing horsepower at 80% battery charge. To fact check, the model 3 battery back from 2018 does 450hp output at 400 volts 75kw. No excuse a more modern lucid 800 volt 88kw pack can’t output this power level for RWD.

Since you are into fact checking, 1hp is equal to 0.745kW. Are you saying that the model 3 is only 100hp?

 

[Adnillien]

The reason it says “up to” is likely because the HP varies based on battery charge, like with every EV. If anything, this is actually Lucid being *more* transparent, not less.

This is definitely true, as battery voltage decrease the available power (read hp) goes down.

 

[C28]

Since you are into fact checking, 1hp is equal to 0.745kW. Are you saying that the model 3 is only 100hp?

No, I said it is 450hp. I know the HP to kw equivalent calculation. My point is there is no way a back that outputs the kind of average for a 620hp Touring suddenly cannot do it for a RWD single motor pure if it is the same config of modules, or very similar. So the argument made by borski is wrong.

 

[C28]

This is definitely true, as battery voltage decrease the available power (read hp) goes down.

Yes, that is true, I understand the relationship between voltage and available power.. My point is, please show me 1 car where the manufacturer rates horsepower on their website as "horsepower at 80% charge, or horsepower at 90% charge". I have found zero, so lucid using the 'up to' argument for this reason is highly unlikely.