Gravity Orders Discussion

[tjhappel]

Seems plausible. I do trust Peter, just upset about the share price, Lucid investors never seem to get a break.

Well it’s a tough segment. Do you think BMW or Mbz is surviving solely off of the s class or 7 series? I think lucid hold up against the, just small market. Glad you trust Peter tho..

 

[Blue Lectroid]

Actually BMW sold 103,440 EV's in the last 3 months and 294,000 EV's in the last 9 months with the i4 the best selling model, so there is a demand out there.

I think that Lucid needs to do a better job of marketing. There is no valid reason why the Portland Auto Show had no Lucids at all to show the public last year.

In the last 2 weeks, I have had 4 people comment on my car who loved what it looked like, but who had never heard of a Lucid.

+1. When I tell people that I am replacing my Tesla with a Lucid, more often than not they say, "What's that?" Of course when I got my Tesla back in 2018 many asked the same thing...

 

[Batteryman]

What rock have you been living under? Sales aren’t poor. The Air is outperforming the models within its segment, including Tesla last quarter. It’s not a marketing or service center problem.

These are luxury, high priced cars. They’re not made for the masses.

Poor in the sense to company original projections. 40000 vs 10000. Below expectations, but understand market challenges.

It’s been 4 years since launch…..

I’m also disappointed with Gravity release , they won’t be delivering that many this year. Might was well said 2025 delivery. They really need to get marketing fixed. Air is the best sport sedan out there, better than any ICE sedan, sakes should be better, I still come across many who haven’t heard of the company,

 

[borski]

Tesla is actively pushing people away from them.

The emails in my inbox begging me to buy their cars with free charging, free FSD for 3 months, inviting me to see the CyberCab in San Jose, or offering me test drives… disagree with you.

 

[navman]

If I place an order for Gravity this week, when can I expect delivery... Also is there any Federal personal or Business credit on this vehicle?

 

[Bobby]

If I place an order for Gravity this week, when can I expect delivery... Also is there any Federal personal or Business credit on this vehicle?

EV tax incentives vary by state, financing type, income, etc. I would assume none and apply for any that might help at the time of delivery.

 

[navman]

EV tax incentives vary by state, financing type, income, etc. I would assume none and apply for any that might help at the time of delivery

When can I expect Delivery? Rough guess will do.

 

[Bobby]

When can I expect Delivery? Rough guess will do.

On a GT? First half of 2025.

 

[navman]

I am going with the Titanium in Stealth, I have a silver model S and love the color.

I can't choose between the Mojave Purluxe Premium and Ojai leather, usually dark seats go well with silver but interested to hear feedback on Ojai?

 

[joec]

I am going with the Titanium in Stealth, I have a silver model S and love the color.

I can't choose between the Mojave Purluxe Premium and Ojai leather, usually dark seats go well with silver but interested to hear feedback on Ojai?

Ojai is beautiful, and Lucid uses good leather. Nothing wrong with PureLuxe or Mojave as a color. I agree with the silver that would look nice. But I also think Ojai will look great.

Lucid tends to pick interior and exterior colors that mix and match in almost any combo. I don't think you can go wrong, especially with that silver. It's a much more neutral silver than Cosmos on the Air.

 

[momo3605]

The emails in my inbox begging me to buy their cars with free charging, free FSD for 3 months, inviting me to see the CyberCab in San Jose, or offering me test drives… disagree with you.

lol cmon...3 months of free charging and FSD is nothing (at least i hope people aren't dumb enough to value that at more than like $200 lol). Cybercab viewing also has nothing to do with the S/X.

The 0% financing is on the 3 and Y, the $299 lease specials are on the 3 and Y. Not a single offer for the S/X. In the last 12 months, they've raised the price of the S and X by $5,000 even while sales tank. My guess is they want to push everyone into a Y so they can say it's the best selling car in the world.

 

[navman]

Ojai is beautiful, and Lucid uses good leather. Nothing wrong with PureLuxe or Mojave as a color. I agree with the silver that would look nice. But I also think Ojai will look great.

Lucid tends to pick interior and exterior colors that mix and match in almost any combo. I don't think you can go wrong, especially with that silver. It's a much more neutral silver than Cosmos on the Air.

Is Ojai a dark tone? Was hoping to see some more examples. My Silver Model S has cream seats, definitely wished I chose something darker.

 

[HC_79]

Poor in the sense to company original projections. 40000 vs 10000. Below expectations, but understand market challenges.

It’s been 4 years since launch…..

I’m also disappointed with Gravity release , they won’t be delivering that many this year. Might was well said 2025 delivery. They really need to get marketing fixed. Air is the best sport sedan out there, better than any ICE sedan, sakes should be better, I still come across many who haven’t heard of the company,

You’re holding The company accountable for falsehoods you’ve created in your mind. At least to my knowledge, Lucid NEVER stated deliveries in 2024. They mentioned going into production late 2024. If I’m mistaken, please provide me with the article where Peter or Lucid directly stated that cars would be delivered in 2024. These are two entirely different concepts. Similarly, when it comes to guidance, they emphasize vehicles produced rather than vehicles sold.

I don’t know what to tell you when it comes to the comparison between the 40,000 vs 100, 000 sales figures. If anyone genuinely believed those unrealistic projections, it’s evident that they didn’t conduct any thorough research. There’s no way a $70K to $130K car could achieve such sales volumes in those numbers. Simply analyzing the competition in the same segment reveals that Lucid wouldn’t be selling those figures with only one or two models and limited market presence.

It appears that you believe everyone has a substantial amount of disposable income and that this car would sell exceptionally well in the market. However, the Air is performing well within its segment, so I don’t understand why you’re holding Lucid accountable for attempting to achieve an unrealistic goal by selling double or triple the number of units compared to other brands.

 

[ddep]

How so? I hope it’s not like blueish black, like how bmw has a carbon black I think but looks navy blue

I was just at the newark studio in califoria. They have some color samples. the rep called out the difference between and air and gravity black is that there are no metallic sparkles in the gravity black

 

[Tesla2Lucid]

What is a paid auto show vs not paid?

I was at naias in 2014 when model x was unveiled, chatted with franz von holzhausen.

I do NOT believe that Tesla PAID to be in auto shows. I could be wrong; someone can do the due diligence. For instance, one year Yokohama borrowed a Tesla to put in their booth (Tesla was on Yokohamas at the time) and Tesla people had "free" advertising and would hang out by the booth to discuss Tesla.

 

[HC_79]

Besides I don't understand how it costs millions to build a booth and have an attendant there to help educate the public. Keeping a low profile is guaranteed to reduce potential sales which Lucid can ill afford.

Last event I worked on at LA Convention Center came with a budget of around $6 million for 3 day show. They’re not cheap by any means so if Lucid attended every single auto show you can see how quickly things can add up.

 

[borski]

lol cmon...3 months of free charging and FSD is nothing (at least i hope people aren't dumb enough to value that at more than like $200 lol). Cybercab viewing also has nothing to do with the S/X.

The 0% financing is on the 3 and Y, the $299 lease specials are on the 3 and Y. Not a single offer for the S/X. In the last 12 months, they've raised the price of the S and X by $5,000 even while sales tank. My guess is they want to push everyone into a Y so they can say it's the best selling car in the world.

Oh, my bad - I misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you meant Tesla was doing it's best to push people away from Tesla. You meant to push people away from the S/X.

If so, I agree with you.

 

[Batteryman]

You’re holding The company accountable for falsehoods you’ve created in your mind. At least to my knowledge, Lucid NEVER stated deliveries in 2024. They mentioned going into production late 2024. If I’m mistaken, please provide me with the article where Peter or Lucid directly stated that cars would be delivered in 2024. These are two entirely different concepts. Similarly, when it comes to guidance, they emphasize vehicles produced rather than vehicles sold.

I don’t know what to tell you when it comes to the comparison between the 40,000 vs 100, 000 sales figures. If anyone genuinely believed those unrealistic projections, it’s evident that they didn’t conduct any thorough research. There’s no way a $70K to $130K car could achieve such sales volumes in those numbers. Simply analyzing the competition in the same segment reveals that Lucid wouldn’t be selling those figures with only one or two models and limited market presence.

It appears that you believe everyone has a substantial amount of disposable income and that this car would sell exceptionally well in the market. However, the Air is performing well within its segment, so I don’t understand why you’re holding Lucid accountable for attempting to achieve an unrealistic goal by selling double or triple the number of units compared to other brands.

Marketing is severely lacking, it’s the best car I ever owned, yet they sold only 7000 worldwide till Q3…..and that too with incentives.

Instead of marketing as post luxury…whatever that means….they should have highlighted the tech- show the rear diffuser starting at the b-pillar, show the advanced headlight technology with cooling, huge frunk due to packaging, the mini differential in the rotor, the cooling of the copper wires, the amazing ride and handling achieved without air suspension, the low CD, show the actual engineering in the ad and say this is why the Lucid Air is the most advanced EV and you should buy one.

Maybe hint at luxury. By going full on luxury ads, people compare it to Mercedes s class, Bentley etc. That is the wrong approach.

 

[HC_79]

Maybe hint at luxury. By going full on luxury ads, people compare it to Mercedes s class, Bentley etc. That is the wrong approach.

What do you want it compared to? A Toyota!

It’s starts at $70K and goes right up to $250K it’s a performance luxury car. It certainly competes with the likes of Mercedes, Porsche, Audi, BMW, etc.

When you talk about worldwide, you do realize Lucid isn’t selling in all worldwide markets yet compared to its competition.

I agree, it’s the best car I’ve ever owned also but until they get the mid-market model out they’re simply not going to be moving the Air or Gravity in massive quantities. They’re not mass market models.

Lucid has done many videos showing off the tech via the Tech Talk series, even the recent Sandy Munro series but you think the luxury market is small well the engineering / tech nerds who care about the motor, the bms, the charging speed etc is even smaller.

Also kind of getting sick of people saying Lucid only sold the car due to incentives. Guess what, everyone is doing incentives in some shape or form at the moment, including Tesla. Let’s not sit here and say Lucid are the only ones doing incentives while the rest of the auto world is moving vehicles just fine.

 

[Tesla2Lucid]

luxury market is small well the engineering / tech nerds who care about the motor, the bms, the charging speed etc is even smaller.