Gravity Orders Discussion

[Wulf0123]

Agree. Our first EV was a 2015 Tesla Model S that, except for the addition of a second motor, was pretty much the car that Rawlinson had engineered. Our second Tesla, a 2021 Model S, incorporated a slew of changes implemented after Rawlinson left Tesla.

In so many ways, the first Tesla was better. Its coil spring suspension was both more compliant and precise than the second one's air suspension. The fit and finish was better in the first car. The ergonomics of its control suite were considerably better, having a stalk for selecting gears, a proper horn button, manual air vents, the ability to read owner USB sticks, etc.

I take Rawlinson seriously when he says the Air is the car he would have developed at Tesla if he had had the time and money to do it right . . . and had he been able to re-engineer the body shell that had been locked in before his arrival. Having owned a Tesla in which Rawlinson's influence was heavy and now one in which his influence has long-since faded, I much prefer the former. Perhaps that's why I'm such a hard-over Lucid fan these days.

Watching that video really shows how Tesla has changed and why I am so excited for Lucid. I love hearing the little things they've done that pushed the boundaries. It is so hilarious to hear him talk about all the space saving and efficiences, and that's exactly what I feel have been lost on future renditions. It really does feel like the Air was the evolution of his model s and I am all for it.

 

[msaunders9430]

When the Air was first released, everything was standard and that drove the price up. There were literally no options… Just pick your color and your wheel size, and even all of those were not at any extra cost. People then argued that they wished that some of the items would be optional to bring the base price down. It seems that’s what they did on Gravity. I, for example, really don’t use Dream Drive Pro very much and could do without it. Had it been an option, I would’ve saved thousands of dollars. I think that’s why the established auto makers all have option lists that are quite long. Try to configure a Porsche… You’ll be shocked at how much you can add to the price in options. But, you certainly can’t have it both ways. Either lots of options, or a higher price. I agree with what they have done to keep the base price far lower than the competition from Mercedes, Range Rover, Cadillac, and Volvo.

And then you have Rivian that offers some options on a trial basis. Their Autonomy Platform+ provides ADAS features as standard thru 2024.
Not sure if buyers know at the time of purchase, which features remain standard after the trial period.

If I recall correctly, some buyers of the Air were offered trial versions of SSP and DDPre.
I suppose the trials were offered through a sales advisor since it's not mentioned in the online configurator.
Perhaps the same will be done with the Gravity.
SSP and DDPre reduce the price $4400 alone.

The Gravity configurator doesn't show what, if any features are provided without the Handling, Technology, and C&C feature packages.
Perhaps nothing.
It would be nice if w/o the feature packages, you still get some of the features like basic (?) air suspension, HUD, soft-close doors.
The Towing package is a little different. You either want the hardware or you don't.
Something other than all or nothing would be nice.
Otherwise, deal with "FOMO", like me, and pay the bucks.

 

[msaunders9430]

And yet to not be showing any features in the "without" area of the three packages now, would be misleading to those who have already ordered.
So probably all or nothing are the choices.

 

[momo3605]

I agree with what they have done to keep the base price far lower than the competition from Mercedes, Range Rover, Cadillac, and Volvo.

I think the Cadillac Vistiq and Volvo EX90 are both cheaper than the Lucid equally equipped. EQS and Range Rover are not competitors since they are too small imo. EQS 3rd row is like Model Y sized. Amputated legs only

 

[DrLucid]

I hope I’m not being too optimistic here in expecting the delivery of gravity by year end. Not only to admire the beauty of the gravity in person but also for the tax benefits.

 

[Bobby]

I think the Cadillac Vistiq and Volvo EX90 are both cheaper than the Lucid equally equipped. EQS and Range Rover are not competitors since they are too small imo. EQS 3rd row is like Model Y sized. Amputated legs only

Vistiq is expected to be about $79k base and go from there.
EX90 starts at $80k and goes to $100k or over depending on equipment.
EQS and Range directly compete, especially for those who will seldom use a third row or order without.
EQS starts at $100k and easily goes well over $200k for the Maybach. Range Rover will be $120k to $160k or more.