Tesla Model 3 vs. Lucid Air Pure

Wholeheartedly agree. A lot will depend on how good mid-size ends up being. Or if there is something other than a crossover variant. If they make a little "hot hatch" or sedan I could see myself eventually replacing my Air with that.

If they only do a crossover, I'll likely stick with the Air. I've grown accustomed to the size.

Then I just need a little roadster as my "weekend" car. Lucid, if you're reading this…
Sounds like we’re gonna own the same cars
 
Doubt that they'd have the space for that kind of range...unless radically denser batteries are ready before then...
Or this Atlas motor is far more efficient. I have no idea. But there are more factors than just “number of batteries.”
 
Smaller frontal area, good Cd, lighter weight, more efficient drive motors, heat pump would all help the mid-size get good range with a smaller battery pack. Lucid has a goal of 6 mi/kw-hr so if a large pack of 85 kw-hr was offered it would have 500 mile range.
Cost and weight would likely require a somewhat smaller pack (and shorter range) but at this point all is conjecture.
 
Smaller frontal area, good Cd, lighter weight, more efficient drive motors, heat pump would all help the mid-size get good range with a smaller battery pack. Lucid has a goal of 6 mi/kw-hr so if a large pack of 85 kw-hr was offered it would have 500 mile range.
Cost and weight would likely require a somewhat smaller pack (and shorter range) but at this point all is conjecture.
Rawlinson has suggested on several occasions that the key to getting the cost down to $50k ish is a much smaller pack. They will make up for that with lighter weight, better efficiency, etc. But I'm thinking he means much, much smaller than Air.

At the same time, I can't see Lucid releasing a car with under 300 miles of range. So who knows? I'm guessing somewhere between 350-400 miles will be the target.
 
Could care less about the cost per car. Give a premium trim with the range and call it a day. You can still keep the base price low like the current Air Pure.
 
Rawlinson has suggested on several occasions that the key to getting the cost down to $50k ish is a much smaller pack. They will make up for that with lighter weight, better efficiency, etc. But I'm thinking he means much, much smaller than Air.
Not sure if you've seen this

Similar concept. Basically use a small battery (55kwh), ambitious target of <3000lbs with 200 miles of range. Which i think might be enough for an around-town roadster. I'm excited for smaller/lighter EVs and sports cars/sedans.

I don't think we're far off from this becoming a reality. If you think about it...BMW already did this in 2018. The i3 (while flawed in many many ways) was 3000lbs with a 40kwh battery and 160 miles of range. With 10 years of battery technology improvements, I suspect someone like Lucid could do a lot better
 
Not sure if you've seen this

Similar concept. Basically use a small battery (55kwh), ambitious target of <3000lbs with 200 miles of range. Which i think might be enough for an around-town roadster. I'm excited for smaller/lighter EVs and sports cars/sedans.

I don't think we're far off from this becoming a reality. If you think about it...BMW already did this in 2018. The i3 (while flawed in many many ways) was 3000lbs with a 40kwh battery and 160 miles of range. With 10 years of battery technology improvements, I suspect someone like Lucid could do a lot better
Totally agree. And I do think a roadster is a perfect trim to experiment with this concept. I don't need more than 200 miles from my "fun" car.

An EV that's actually somewhat "lightweight" compared to today's EVs could be very fun to drive.
 
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