The Lucid *is* far ahead in efficiency. BMW and Mercedes use a different EPA test than Lucid and Tesla, so comparing the amount of “miss” from the EPA number is comparing apples and oranges. In terms of miles traveled per kilowatt-hour of energy used, the Lucid has the edge in its segment.
You either use InsideEvs test or don't. Why mix them? Also, consistent testing is the best way to compare not mix and match or using personal anecdotes.
Yeah, I am just not seeing great efficiency or maybe it just the low miles per kW that I am seeing? I do see lots of power and like it.
But the OP wants a touring...
Yes I understand that, my point is he compares the EQS and Taycan ranges using the figures from InsideEvs testing and then using anecdotal reports to say that the Lucid is not meeting the range. Why not compare models using the testing methodology from the same source. It's disingenuous to create a narrative.
Agreed. Me personally, I prefer edmunds, despite their obvious european bias.
Well, I have said this a bunch of times, but I just want to know how many miles I really have left. Yes, I know this can be less than trivial to compute but needs to be better. I charge to 80 percent and the car says that I have 380 miles. Then I drive 100 miles and it says that I have 200 miles left! Don't tell me that I "should" get 380 miles because I won't based upon my driving history. EOR (end of rant).
So I just went out to my GV60 and checked. In the 700 miles since I acquired it a few weeks ago, with zero attempt at driving efficiently (other than learning to drive one pedal), and driving on the highway at 75 mph, I have averaged 2.9. That comes out to pretty close to exactly the EPA estimate. I think some of the efficiency differential may be attributed to which EPA test was utilized by the manufacturer.
Don’t forget the very comfortable daily driver (530E) he had before thatYou got a GV60?
Don’t forget the very comfortable daily driver (530E) he had before that
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If I remember his posts, he's having hip replacement surgery. Makes a lot of sense to get that style of vehicle for ease of entry/exit rather than a low slung/low roof Air.You got a GV60?
Surprisingly efficient compared to what? EPA results? I've posted this before - Porsche submits their most aggressive setups for EPA testing. You notice that Lucid submitted both 19 and 21 inch wheel variants while Porsche only submitted 1. According to Edmunds, "In EPA tests, a vehicle is run in the default settings at startup. If there are more efficient drive modes available, or if you can increase the level of regenerative braking, but the vehicle doesn't default to these settings, they won't be utilized." This is why the Air always starts in Smooth mode. I don't own a Taycan so can't say what mode it defaults to or if you can define the default. When InsideEVs and Edmunds tests, they set the car up to be the most efficient it can be. So the Air being tested by the EPA and Edmunds/InsideEVs is set up the same. The Porsche tested by the EPA is set up with different tires and settings than what Edmunds/InsideEVs tested (although the tires aren't controlled by Edmunds/InsideEVs, it's whatever the test car came equipped with).
Well, WOW and range.
