Ordering and Delivery: Lucid Air Touring

[Volund]

In part, it may both be due to wanting the best chance to get the car in 2022 for the tax credit. Stealth is expensive and delays to 2023. DDP is expensive, but may be useful later down the road, but without it, there will not be a $7500 tax credit. With DDP, there is a better chance to get the credit. Thus you could say it makes DDP potentially a 1500 option. But for sure your are saving 9-10K by not getting it.

Does anyone know if buying a used Lucid would qualify you for the tax credit, or is it new purchases only?

 

[maazymaaz]

Does anyone know if buying a used Lucid would qualify you for the tax credit, or is it new purchases only?

New only

 

[Money_Mani]

Has anyone leased Lucid instead of buying. If so, could I get an idea of down payment and monthly installments with lease. Thanks

 

[Money_Mani]

In part, it may both be due to wanting the best chance to get the car in 2022 for the tax credit. Stealth is expensive and delays to 2023. DDP is expensive, but may be useful later down the road, but without it, there will not be a $7500 tax credit. With DDP, there is a better chance to get the credit. Thus you could say it makes DDP potentially a 1500 option. But for sure your are saving 9-10K by not getting it.

Why no tax rebate if you don’t choose DDP? Thanks

 

[HariK]

Certainly the longer it takes Lucid to deliver cars to the current reservations the greater the risk customers will decide to get a different car instead, but which of the upcoming competition is legitimately comparable to a Lucid though (serious question)? So far it seems the offerings from even the premium brands don't quite match up?

True but people will settle for 2nd best. Not everyone is young enough to wait and many of them have old cars. Biological clock keeps ticking....

 

[Money_Mani]

In case you didn't see the other thread, this turns out to be a mistake. There will be no second battery option for Touring.

Insert Price-Is-Right trombone sad sound here.

Agree, website doesn’t mention 2 battery options

 

[Money_Mani]

Updated release copy below. Again, my apologies for any confusion.

Lucid Air Touring
Lucid Air Touring, with an MSRP of $107,400, is the quintessential Air, featuring a fine balance of performance, luxury, design, and space. As such, it can be optioned with the unique Glass Canopy – a single piece of glass that reaches from the base of the windshield to over the heads of the front passengers for an unobstructed view, as well as DreamDrive Pro, Lucid’s advanced driver assistance system. Full specs and additional details for Lucid Air Touring will also be shared on November 15.

I'm sorry team. This is incorrect and will be corrected momentarily. My apologies for this.

Hi, there is a lot of confusion between DD and DD Pro. Not what each does, but whether DD has LIDAR, whether Pro hardware or OTA software can be added after car purchased with DD only. Other than lot of pressure to sell us DDPro, SAs are all over the place with hardware difference between 2 options. One guy finally said, “I don’t know, the company is not telling us”. Isn’t that shocking? Could you as Lucid official please clarify? Thanks

 

[Money_Mani]

I do think some of the earliest people who finalized will get their cars by end of the year. But how many is an open question.

Personally, I'm good with 3 months, as my Model 3 lease happens to end on Feb 1. So I may end up with my Touring within a few days of dropping off the Tesla.

Of course, if Lucid gets me my Touring sooner, I'm not going to say no. Especially if I can lock in that $7,500 credit with 100% certainty.

Do you have to have delivery in 2022 for federal tax credit to be valid?

 

[Slam08]

Hi, there is a lot of confusion between DD and DD Pro. Not what each does, but whether DD has LIDAR, whether Pro hardware or OTA software can be added after car purchased with DD only. Other than lot of pressure to sell us DDPro, SAs are all over the place with hardware difference between 2 options. One guy finally said, “I don’t know, the company is not telling us”. Isn’t that shocking? Could you as Lucid official please clarify? Thanks

It’s been changing and has been hard. But they have created a thread that kind of answers your questions and the current state of things. So now we have a pretty good idea of the features at least. And no it can’t be added afterwards.

DreamDrive Megathread

DreamDrive will include Highway Assist and Traffic Jam Assist. Highway Assist is lane centering, adaptive cruise control, steering, on highways (GPS-controlled). Off highways, Adaptive Cruise Control is available, but you are responsible for steering. None of this is hands free, and you will be...

lucidowners.com

 

[joec]

Do you have to have delivery in 2022 for federal tax credit to be valid?

No one knows for sure. What we do know is getting your car before the end of 2022 will definitely get you the credit. Beyond that is up to the IRS.

 

[joec]

Hi, there is a lot of confusion between DD and DD Pro. Not what each does, but whether DD has LIDAR, whether Pro hardware or OTA software can be added after car purchased with DD only. Other than lot of pressure to sell us DDPro, SAs are all over the place with hardware difference between 2 options. One guy finally said, “I don’t know, the company is not telling us”. Isn’t that shocking? Could you as Lucid official please clarify? Thanks

Some info has changed over time, but for the most part, what we’ve always been told is that DDPro contains LiDAR and some extra cameras. Dream Drive does not. There is a hardware difference, in other words. And there are no plans for any sort of retrofit for buyers who get Dream Drive to upgrade to the hardware in Pro later.

One representative from Lucid suggested to a member here that some sort of software Dream Drive Pro “Lite” upgrade would eventually be offered. Without the hardware, I assume it would provide some similar features of Dream Drive, only not quite as good without the extra hardware to power it. That is almost complete speculation, however, since it did come from a Lucid rep, supposedly, but nothing official has ever been stated about it. For all we know, it’s an idea being kicked around the water cooler.

When it comes to information given to customers by Lucid’s SA and DA employees, it can be quite hit or miss as far as accuracy goes. If 20 different SAs all say the same thing, I tend to think they are talking about a decision that just hasn’t been made public on the web site yet. When it’s only coming from one source, I tend to approach it with a “wait and see”. Plenty of things have turned out to be wrong in the past. But others have come true eventually.

On the 15th, we’re going to get more “official” news about Touring and Pure than we’ve ever received from Lucid to date. Up until now, because all confirmed customers were either GT or Dream, Lucid has kept details for Pure and Touring under wraps. We’ll know a lot more soon.

 

[Sid432]

Spoke to my DA finally today. He did say that there are rumurs of Touring will have more range than 406. That statement got me excited because in real world driving, I I’m able to get 350 miles of city/highway. I would be happy. Can’t wait for the 15th.

 

[Pax]

In the earnings call today, Peter emphasized that testing of Touring *matched* the existing outgoing Air GT 4.6 mi/kwh. This is probably assuming both the Touring and the GT are on the 19" wheels with all-season tires.

With 18 modules in Touring and 22 modules in GT, it'd be reasonable to assume that the Touring should have ~421 miles of range (516 mi / 112 kwh ~ 4.6 mi/kwh / 22 * 18 modules = 421.5). Glad to see that they matched the 4.6 mi/kwh number, though there might some tradeoff between a lighter car without the 4 modules (~400lbs I read somewhere) but the lower 756V voltage architecture compared to 924V in the GT.

 

[Codyroo]

Why no tax rebate if you don’t choose DDP? Thanks

It's not that you won't get a tax rebate if you don't choose DDP, but instead it is about taking delivery in 2022.

If you fully spec out your Touring (meaning taking the glass canopy, Dream Drive Pro and Surreal Sound Pro) AND don't take the Mojave interior or Stealth, you have the best chance to have your Touring model delivered first and first may be before the end of 2022.

The Mojave interior, metal roof, and Stealth package all state they would have later availability (ie likely 2023).

There are a few tax credit threads that will get you up to speed (and likely confused as we all are) with regards to it.

To sum up.
If you bought/took delivery before the Inflation reduction act, you'll get the credit.
If you signed a binding contract (open for about 7-10 days prior to the Act being signed) and take delivery in 2022, there is a good chance you get the credit.
If you signed the binding contract and take delivery in 2023.......we don't know the answer to that.
If you buy and take delivery in 2023 without the binding contract, you won't get the tax credit.

 

[Money_Mani]

It's not that you won't get a tax rebate if you don't choose DDP, but instead it is about taking delivery in 2022.

If you fully spec out your Touring (meaning taking the glass canopy, Dream Drive Pro and Surreal Sound Pro) AND don't take the Mojave interior or Stealth, you have the best chance to have your Touring model delivered first and first may be before the end of 2022.

The Mojave interior, metal roof, and Stealth package all state they would have later availability (ie likely 2023).

There are a few tax credit threads that will get you up to speed (and likely confused as we all are) with regards to it.

To sum up.
If you bought/took delivery before the Inflation reduction act, you'll get the credit.
If you signed a binding contract (open for about 7-10 days prior to the Act being signed) and take delivery in 2022, there is a good chance you get the credit.
If you signed the binding contract and take delivery in 2023.......we don't know the answer to that.
If you buy and take delivery in 2023 without the binding contract, you won't get the tax credit.

Thanks for the reply. IRS website does not specify that EV has to be delivered before 12/31/22.

Credits for new electric vehicles purchased in 2022 or before | Internal Revenue Service

If you bought or leased a new, qualified plug-in electric vehicle (EV) in 2022 or before, you may be eligible for a clean vehicle tax credit up to $7,500 under IRC 30D.

www.irs.gov

Specifically the paragraph-

Transition Rule for Vehicles Purchased before August 16, 2022​

If you entered into a written binding contract to purchase a new qualifying electric vehicle before August 16, 2022, but do not take possession of the vehicle until on or after August 16, 2022 (for example, because the vehicle has not been delivered), you may claim the EV credit based on the rules that were in effect before August 16, 2022. The final assembly requirement does not apply before August 16, 2022.

Based on this, hopefully EV credit still valid even if delivery after 12/31/22! as men before up to IRS!!

 

[DRWHO42]

Confirmed my order today. Email was sent from Lucid then there was a follow-up email sent from the sales person we were in touch with a few hours later.

Kindly update my entry to reflect.

 

[ModelSToLucidAir]

I’m excited that Peter emphasized Touring will have the same efficiency as the GT. If true, it will have longer range than the refresh model s. Another thing Peter said was they will start first Pure delivery right before year end. So does that mean all Touring regardless of DD pro or SS pro will be delivered by year end?

 

[CrewChief]

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INFINITE BLACK​

Reservation​	Confirmation​	User​	Color​	Interior​	Stealth​	Roof​	Wheels​	Surreal Sound Pro​	Dream Drive Pro​	State/Province​
January 2020	October 27, 2022	@shredderc	Black	Santa Cruz		Glass​	20"​	​	​	IL​
August 10, 2020	October 26, 2022	@segfault	Black	Tahoe		Glass​	19"​	​	​	VA​
August 31, 2020		@GRH	Black	Mojave		Glass​	19"​	​	​
October 27, 2020	October 26, 2022	@Halodde	Black	Mojave		Metal​	19"​		​	NY​
February 4, 2021	October 26, 2022	@Mkoy2881	Black	Tahoe		Glass​	20"​
May 14, 2021		@nikp	Black	Tahoe	​	​		​	​	TX​
May 28, 2021		@CamRek	Black	Mojave		Glass​	19"​	​	​	WA​
August 9, 2021	November 01, 2022	@Brooklynboy	Black	Tahoe	​	Glass​	20"​	​	​	​
September 14, 2021	November 01, 2022	@Keithmaj	Black	Tahoe	​	Glass​	19"​	​	​	TX​
November 20, 2021	November 01, 2022	@Shuasha	Black	Tahoe	​	Glass​	19"​	​	​	IL​
December 12, 2021		@Constitution1st	Black	Mojave		Glass​	20"​	​	​	​
February 14, 2022	November 02, 2022	@Pikabob	Black	Tahoe		Glass​	20"​	​	​	CA​
April 7, 2022		@Slam08	Black	Tahoe	​	​	​	​	​	​
April 30, 2022	November 01, 2022	@Jefferoo	Black	Mojave	​	Glass​	19"​	​	​	ID​
May 4, 2022		@RyanATX	Black	Santa Cruz	​	Glass​	20"​	​	​	TX​
June 23, 2022		@wyoAir	Black	Santa Cruz	​	Glass​	20"​	​	​	WY​

COSMOS SILVER​

Reservation​	Confirmation​	User​	Color​	Interior​	Stealth​	Roof​	Wheels​	Surreal Sound Pro​	Dream Drive Pro​	State/Province​
March 7, 2020	October 26, 2022	@DTA	Silver	Tahoe	​	Glass​	20"​	​	​	AZ​
September 2, 2020		@Trekforever	Silver	Mojave	​	Glass​	20"​	​	​	CA​
September 18, 2020		@obelix	Silver	Santa Cruz		Glass​	19"​			NJ​
November 8, 2020	October 26, 2022	@Chillywill75	Silver	Santa Cruz		Glass	19"​	​	​	IL​
February 21, 2021	October 27, 2022	@AZLucidGirl	Silver	Santa Cruz	​	Glass​	20"​			AZ​
March 19, 2021	October 26, 2022	@jdbeachbum	Silver	Santa Cruz	​	Glass​	20"​	​	​	MD​
March 19, 2021	October 26, 2022	@terrygone	Silver	Tahoe		Glass​	20"​	​	​	CA​
July 6, 2021		@ScottM	Silver	Mojave	​	Glass​	19"​	​	​	​
August 15, 2021	November 02, 2022	@blueice89	Silver	Mojave	​	Glass​	21"​	​	​	AZ​
October 12, 2021	November 02, 2022	@Keith	Silver	Santa Cruz		Glass​	20"​	​	​	NH​
October 20, 2021		@Wilddreams22	Silver	Mojave	​	Glass​	20"​	​	​	​
October 29, 2021		@ChipEdwards	Silver	Santa Cruz	​	Glass​	19"​	​	​	​
November 6, 2021		@JimCO	Silver	Mojave		Glass​	19"​
December 31, 2021		@Napoli	Silver	Tahoe	​	​	​	​	​	​
January 7, 2022		@imrtc999	Silver	Santa Cruz	​	Glass​	19"​	​	​	​
January 8, 2022		@EVForever22	Silver	Mojave	​	Metal​	20"​	​	​	CA​
February 28, 2022		@morethanoneau	Silver	Mojave	​	Glass​	19"​	​	​	​
March 1, 2022	November 02, 2022	@LucidBrit	Silver	Santa Cruz		Metal	19"​		​	CA​
March 21, 2022		@pdq	Silver	Tahoe	​	​	19"​	​	​	​
March 26, 2022	October 31, 2022	@np1989	Silver	Santa Cruz		Glass​	19”​	​	​	CA​
April 1, 2022		@daydreamer223	Silver	Santa Cruz	​	Glass​	20"​	​	​	​
May 11, 2022		@Jay2020	Silver	Santa Cruz	​	Glass​	20"​	​	​	BC, Canada​
May 28, 2022		@DRWHO42	Silver	Mojave	​	Glass​	19"​	​	​	NY​
June 1, 2022	November 02, 2022	@nautchilous	Silver	Mojave	​	Glass​	20"​	​	​	​
August 3, 2022		@idealimagesoluti	Silver	Santa Cruz	​	Glass​	21"​	​	​	NJ​
August 12, 2022		@luckylucy	Silver	Mojave	​	​	20"​	​	​	​
October 17, 2022		@MorganB	Silver	Mojave		Glass​	20"​	​	​	TX​
October 19, 2022		@MHDave	Silver	Mojave		Metal​	19"​	​	​	CA​

ZENITH RED​

Reservation​	Confirmation​	User​	Color​	Interior​	Stealth​	Roof​	Wheels​	Surreal Sound Pro​	Dream Drive Pro​	State/Province​
February 2020		@jhellow	Red	Santa Cruz		Glass​	20"​	​	​
August 13, 2020	October 26, 2022	@PatrickZWang	Red	Tahoe	​	Glass​	20"​	​	​	CA​
September 10, 2020		@nbs14	Red	Mojave
October 14, 2020	October 26, 2022	@Dr Chill	Red	Tahoe		Glass​	20"​	​
December 15, 2020	October 26, 2022	@emoylv	Red	Tahoe	​	Glass​	20"​	​	​	NV​
January 19, 2021	October 26, 2022	@barcndawgs	Red	Tahoe		Glass​	19"​	​	​
March 4, 2021	October 29, 2022	@Volund	Red	Tahoe		Glass​	19"​	​	​	UT​
June 17, 2021		@SoCalAg	Red	Tahoe		Glass​	19"​	​		CA​
June 24, 2021	October 26, 2022	@Babyrocko1908	Red	Santa Cruz		Glass​	21"​	​	​	PA​
August 4, 2021		@AbsoluteZenith	Red	Mojave	​	Glass​	19"​	​		NY​
September 29, 2021	November 03, 2022	@tjp74	Red	Santa Cruz	​	Glass​	21"​	​		WA​
October 3, 2021		@Bdejong11129	Red	Tahoe				​
October 14, 2021		@Ramsnazz	Red	Tahoe		Metal​	19"​	​	​	CA​
October 19, 2021		@afrank	Red	Santa Cruz		Glass​	19"​	​		TX​
October 29, 2021	November 02, 2022	@DOP@30	Red	Tahoe		Glass​	21"​	​		CA​
October 30, 2021		@edpeters2	Red	Tahoe		Glass​	20"​	​
November 5, 2021	November 01, 2022	@GearHead	Red	Tahoe	​	Glass​	20"​	​	​	MO​
November 14, 2021	November 01, 2022	@Ahntilza	Red	Santa Cruz		Glass​	19"​	​	​
November 14, 2021	November 06, 2022	@varunr82	Red	Tahoe		Glass​		​	​	FL​
November 20, 2021	November 01, 2022	@bigfoot	Red	Tahoe		Glass​	20"​	​	​	CA​
December 4, 2021	November 03, 2022	@moytoyx	Red	Santa Cruz	​	Glass​	19"​	​	​	NJ​
December 4, 2021	November 05, 2022	@Negan1000	Red	Santa Cruz	​	Glass​	19"​	​	​	CA​
January 6, 2022		@704.Lucid	Red	Santa Cruz			19"​	​		NC​
January 30, 2022		@Canyonero!	Red	Santa Cruz				​
February 11, 2022		@EVCar	Red	Mojave				​		AZ​
February 19, 2022	November 02, 2022	@Sid432	Red	Tahoe		Glass​	19"​	​	​	NJ​
February 20, 2022		@Psymac	Red	Santa Cruz				​
April 19, 2022	November 05, 2022	@meascom	Red	Santa Cruz		Glass​	19"​	​	​	WA​
May 9, 2022		@a.deodatus	Red	Santa Cruz		Glass​	20"​	​
May 11, 2022	November 02, 2022	@hamburglar	Red	Santa Cruz		Glass​	20"​	​	​	IL​
May 13, 2022	November 01, 2022	@Tenorcnj	Red	Tahoe		Glass​	19"​	​	​	NJ​
May 30, 2022		@jackie.long	Red	Tahoe		Glass​	20"​	​		CA​
May 31, 2022		@Dr Chill	Red	Santa Cruz				​

STELLAR WHITE​

Reservation​	Confirmation​	User​	Color​	Interior​	Stealth​	Roof​	Wheels​	Surreal Sound Pro​	Dream Drive Pro​	State/Province​
September 5, 2020	October 27, 2022	@MScott	White	Tahoe		Glass​	19"​	​	​	​
November 11, 2020		@vraj83	White	Mojave				​
March 5, 2021	October 26, 2022	@The Nuck	White	Tahoe		Glass​	19"​	​	​	CA​
June 2021		@SaaSManKS	White	Mojave		Glass​	20"​	​		MO​
July 26, 2021	November 06, 2022	@PHX-Air	White	Tahoe		Glass​	20"​	​	​	AZ​
August 12, 2021	November 01, 2022	@Stevepatek	White	Santa Cruz	​	Glass​	20"​	​		NC​
September 7, 2021		@Don1942	White	Santa Cruz				​
October 8, 2021		@Compy	White	Tahoe		Glass​	19"​	​		CA​
November 16, 2021	November 01, 2022	@lsbuffs	White	Santa Cruz	​	Glass​	20"​	​	​	AZ​
November 19, 2021		@Corcord	White	Tahoe				​
December 10, 2021		@paulg	White	Santa Cruz				​
February 2, 2022	November 01, 2022	@joec	White	Santa Cruz	​	Glass​	19"​	​	​	CO​
February 6, 2022		@JoeL	White	Santa Cruz
February 13, 2022		@SCROD	White	Santa Cruz		Glass​	20"​	​		SC​
March 13, 2022		@jon_1k	White	Tahoe		Glass​	20"​	​
March 22, 2022	November 01, 2022	@SCOOTERSD	White	Tahoe		Glass​	19"​	​	​	CA​
April 12, 2022		@yashuneel	White	Mojave		Glass​	20"​	​
May 25, 2022		@LucidNJ	White	Santa Cruz				​
May 31, 2022		@bwstewart	White	Santa Cruz				​
May 31, 2022		@esmurrell	White	Tahoe		Glass​	21"​	​

QUANTUM GREY​

Reservation​	Confirmation​	User​	Color​	Interior​	Stealth​	Roof​	Wheels​	Surreal Sound Pro​	Dream Drive Pro​	State/Province​
October 14, 2020	October 26, 2022	@hitmanray	Grey	Santa Cruz		Glass​	20"​	​	​	TX​
December 4, 2020	October 27, 2022	@mallig	Grey	Mojave		Metal​	19"​			CT​
December 06, 2020	October 27, 2022	@yiling1990	Grey	Santa Cruz		Glass​	19"​	​	​
December 17, 2021	November 01, 2022	@rnr	Grey	Tahoe		Glass​	20"​	​	​
January 7, 2021	October 26, 2022	@smowens	Grey	Santa Cruz	​	Glass​	21"​	​	​
January 2021	October 26, 2022	@Tailspin74	Grey	Mojave		Glass​	21"​
March 04, 2021	October 27, 2022	@Electric Al	Grey	Santa Cruz		Glass​	19"​		​	CA​
March 17, 2021	October 27, 2222	@Mac	Grey	Tahoe		Glass​	21"​	​	​
June 5, 2021	October 26, 2022	@ktloo_climate	Grey	Santa Cruz		Glass​	19"​
July 5, 2021	October 26, 2022	@idiot900	Grey	Mojave	​	Glass​	19"​	​		PA​
September 20, 2021	November 01, 2022	@Paul	Grey	Tahoe		Glass​	19"​	​	​	CA​
October 2021	November 02, 2022	@gavram	Grey	Santa Cruz		Glass​	20"​	​	​	OH​
October 19, 2021	November 02, 2022	@Svenice	Grey	Mojave		Glass​	21"​	​
October 31, 2021		@Pax	Grey	Mojave		Glass​	20"​	​		CA​
November 07, 2021	November 01, 2022	@kosherbacon	Grey	Santa Cruz	​	Glass​	20"​	​	​	CA​
November 09, 2021	November 01, 2022	@Sheena	Gray	Santa Cruz		Metal​	19"​		​	NE​
November 15, 2021	November 03, 2022	@Tim-in-CA	Grey	Santa Cruz	​	Glass​	21"​	​	​	CA​
December 1, 2021		@Bsmith	Grey	Tahoe				​
December 4, 2021	November 01, 2022	@Codyroo	Grey	Tahoe		Glass	19"​	​	​	CA​
February 04, 2022	November 02, 2022	@maazymaaz	Grey	Tahoe		Glass​	21"​			CA​
March 12, 2022		@digiboxer	Grey	Tahoe				​
March 17, 2022	November 03, 2022	@Coho	Grey	Mojave	​	Glass​	19"​	​	​	AZ​
March 19, 2022	November 01,2022	@Core	Grey	Mojave	​	Glass​	20”​	​	​	UT​
March 23, 2022		@AllenS	Grey	Tahoe			19"​	​		AZ​
March 29, 2022		@LucidRider	Grey	Mojave				​
March 29, 2022		@tommy	Grey	Mojave				​		FL​
April 08, 2022	November 01, 2022	@Gary@SGR	Grey	Mojave		Glass​	20"​	​	​	AZ​
April 12, 2022		@yashuneel	Grey	Mojave		Glass​	20"​	​
May 7, 2022	November 02, 2022	@Golfhack	Grey	Santa Cruz		Glass​	19”​	​	​	MD​
May 13, 2022	November 02, 2022	@gtaker	Grey	Mojave		Glass​	21"​	​	​
August 10, 2022	November 02, 2022	@Grubie	Grey	Tahoe		Glass​	19"​	​		NY​
October 13, 2022	November 08, 2022	@Rchie	Grey	Tahoe		Glass​	19"​	​	​	WA​

My Data, Thanks Joe
Reserved: February 3, 2022
Confirmation: November 2, 2022
Exterior: Zenith Red
Interior: Tahoe
Options: DDPro, SSPro, Glass, 19”

 

[HariK]

I’m excited that Peter emphasized Touring will have the same efficiency as the GT. If true, it will have longer range than the refresh model s. Another thing Peter said was they will start first Pure delivery right before year end. So does that mean all Touring regardless of DD pro or SS pro will be delivered by year end?

I hope so. Already 3k reservations were canceled 37k to 34k. If 3k are Touring and very few remain gt and others, 30k pure? Of the 30k I would guess that 70% are rwd no ddp no ssp. They are price sensitive 70% and could consider ioniq 6 if they cannot get it by the end of 23. Did I miss something or there was no guidance for 23 targets? https://www.kbb.com/hyundai/ioniq-6/ 350 miles awd sedan version of the well received ioniq 5 which has very high demand with 6k mark up.

 

[joec]

I hope so. Already 3k reservations were canceled 37k to 34k.

I am curious as to why some folks are assuming Lucid has “lost” several thousand reservations. They delivered over 2k of those reservations throughout the quarter. So yes, lost a few maybe, and more importantly didn’t seem to gain many new reservations. But it’s not like 3k people just walked away.