First pre-production Gravity reviews are coming in

We finally got to test drive the Lucid Gravity which just nabbed an EPA range of 450 miles

It’s been a four-plus-year journey for Gravity – Lucid Motors’ second flagship SUV. Since it was first unveiled, I’ve followed...

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[Blue Lectroid]

This was my commute to work 2 years ago. https://www.google.com/amp/s/thenat...traffic-cars-stuck-state-roads-clogged-drains

This is the I-93 Tunnel in Boston yesterday, which I’ve driven through more times than I can count. https://www.nbcnews.com/video/cars-drive-through-rain-flooded-boston-tunnel-226885189667

Could I get through it in the Air? Maybe, but climate catastrophe is here and while maybe not past the tipping point, while I don’t like big vehicles, I’m coming around to arguments in favor of them.

Each of us needs to balance that equation (how much we NEED something) personally, and who am I to judge someone’s answer? All I hope is that we each consciously THINK rather than reflexively acting. Absent that, we don’t really stand a chance to make positive changes to the direction things are headed.

 

[AP22]

Collectively, I do think that most general consumers think it looks closer to a minivan than an SUV. Function won out over form here, and it's going to cost some potential buyers but I'm sure Lucid took that into consideration when designing this.

If they had sloped the back a bit more to look a bit more Model Y, or GLE Coupe like, I think this would have been an absolute home run and attracted a wider audience, but I do get the older Chrysler Pacifica / Mercedes R-Class vibes which might not be a bad thing to others, but deal breaker for me. Not to mention, those were duds from a sales perspective as well.

I'm in my very early 30's; a minivan is not something I desire to drive around at this stage of my life.

I really hope Lucid has a ton of demand for these cars as the company is riding on it and it leading advancements in hardware technology faster than anyone else. (Software advancements are almost indistinguishable from another other OEM though)

 

[flarbear]

"The Ultimate Driving Your Family Machine"

 

[St Bernard]

I think you misunderstand the intent of my earlier post. I totally support the view that marriages and domestic relationships are two-way streets with no one partner having the right or privilege of imposing his or her view on the other on things either great or small. Personally, I have been in very long discussions in our house about which, if any, vehicle(s) we will shed when the Gravity arrives. I have a strong preference about what I would like to do, but I'm not about to try to move off on my own in such a matter.

What is worrying me is not that @Bobby "gave in to his wife" or any such thing, but that people feel strongly enough in their views that the Gravity looks like a minivan to cause Lucid to lose sales they would otherwise have gotten.

A lot is riding on the Gravity with Lucid, and it would be such a damn shame for it to founder over some perception that the Gravity is an undesirable vehicle because it looks like a minivan -- setting aside the facts that I actually like minivans and don't think the Gravity looks like one.

I just brought up the story @Bobby related because it came from someone I know is committed to the brand and understands its mission thoroughly. But I absolutely laud his attitude about how decisions get made in personal relationships.

I agree with you but just to clarify on whether Gravity is an SUV or MINIVAN I went to the ultimate source- ChatGPT. The response to Minivan vs SUV was Gravity is an SUV but has the space that might appeal to families needing extra room. On another subject is it strange that Lucid has not announced any order numbers for Gravity? When a new car is a success you usually hear something from the Company. 67 orders from 5,000 members on this forum is a questionable number.

 

[DeaneG]

...On another subject is it strange that Lucid has not announced any order numbers for Gravity? When a new car is a success you usually hear something from the Company. 67 orders from 5,000 members on this forum is a questionable number.

Pre-release order numbers can be a gross exaggeration of subsequent actual purchases, and I am glad Lucid hasn't disclosed them. One example - depending on which source you ask, Tesla's Cybertruck had between 250K and 2 million pre-orders. Yet they have recently given assembly line workers a temporary furlough.

In a recent interview, Peter R said he was extremely pleased with Gravity's market results so far. I'm glad to hear it.

 

[new owner]

Minivan has sliding doors, Gravity doesn’t . Bit like saying Audi all road is a 5 seater minivan.

Exactly
Its a glorified raised wagon/Estate
As far as clearance get a Range Rover for water fording

 

[Lucken]

May I summarize?

I knew minivans and Lucid, you are no minivan.

 

[DrLucid]

I agree with you but just to clarify on whether Gravity is an SUV or MINIVAN I went to the ultimate source- ChatGPT. The response to Minivan vs SUV was Gravity is an SUV but has the space that might appeal to families needing extra room. On another subject is it strange that Lucid has not announced any order numbers for Gravity? When a new car is a success you usually hear something from the Company. 67 orders from 5,000 members on this forum is a questionable number.

Could be multiracial reasons like just love for sedans, not needing a SUV at this time in life, bring in a contact with other company SUVs. Any body who owns or is leasing lucid air knows the quality of the company. And those numbers might not be a complete representation of the number that really ordered it.

 

[Leftlane]

Collectively, I do think that most general consumers think it looks closer to a minivan than an SUV. Function won out over form here, and it's going to cost some potential buyers but I'm sure Lucid took that into consideration when designing this.

If they had sloped the back a bit more to look a bit more Model Y, or GLE Coupe like, I think this would have been an absolute home run and attracted a wider audience, but I do get the older Chrysler Pacifica / Mercedes R-Class vibes which might not be a bad thing to others, but deal breaker for me. Not to mention, those were duds from a sales perspective as well.

I'm in my very early 30's; a minivan is not something I desire to drive around at this stage of my life.

I really hope Lucid has a ton of demand for these cars as the company is riding on it and it leading advancements in hardware technology faster than anyone else. (Software advancements are almost indistinguishable from another other OEM though)

And then people would be bitching about the lack of head room in the back 2 rows. Good thing for you, Lucid doesn’t sell a minivan. Who cares what other consumers think?

 

[AP22]

And then people would be bitching about the lack of head room in the back 2 rows. Good thing for you, Lucid doesn’t sell a minivan. Who cares what other consumers think?

It has nothing to do with other consumers. I do not like the design. At the price point and with the size of my family, I'm an SUV buyer and a Range Rover Sport would fit the bill.

 

[DrLucid]

Could be multiracial reasons like just love for sedans, not needing a SUV at this time in life, bring in a contact with other company SUVs. Any body who owns or is leasing lucid air knows the quality of the company. And those numbers might not be a complete representation of the number that really ordered it.

Sorry about the auto correct. Not multi racial, it was intended to be multifactorial.

 

[hmp10]

. . . I do get the older Chrysler Pacifica / Mercedes R-Class vibes which might not be a bad thing to others, but deal breaker for me. Not to mention, those were duds from a sales perspective as well.

The R-Class was definitely a sales dud, but the Pacifica is a different story. In 2023 the Pacifica netted over 48% of U.S. minivan sales (120,665 units), with Honda and Toyota bringing up the rear with 74,738 and 54,347, respectively.

By contrast, 2023 U.S. sales for the GLE, which you think is more desirable, were 57,696 units.

 

[AP22]

The R-Class was definitely a sales dud, but the Pacifica is a different story. In 2023 the Pacifica netted over 48% of U.S. minivan sales (120,665 units), with Honda and Toyota bringing up the rear with 74,738 and 54,347, respectively.

By contrast, 2023 U.S. sales for the GLE, which you think is more desirable, were 57,696 units.

Sorry, I meant the earlier Pacifica that had regular doors like Gravity vs. the minivan in 2023. Pacifica also starts at like $40k and if Lucid could hit 120k units like Pacifica could, oh man, our stock is going to the moon... Unfortunately, I don't see that being the case.

GLE at 58k units alone in the US isn't anything to scoff at though, it's actually quite impressive given how vast of a product lineup Mercedes has and this is just one of their many SUV's.

By contrast, their EQ lineup sales are dismal which makes me question consumer preferences of ICE vs. EV all together.

 

[DrLucid]

Correlation to stock prices should be with the trust in the company and their innovation. Unless somebody buys stocks without the due home work that they should when they are putting the money ( representation of their hardwork) then they are gambling. Nothing had to go to the moon , the target can be the Sun.
Comparing a Pacifica and lucid gravity is just by many means ignorance
. Period

 

[AP22]

I compared the look of the older Pacifica with regular doors. Not sure why that would be ignorant.

 

[DrLucid]

I compared the look of the older Pacifica with regular doors. Not sure why that would be ignorant.

Ignorance is a blessing in disguise.
If Pacifica can match gravity in handling, software and other capabilities please do enlighten me. I don’t go by looks I go by character so might be I’m blind

 

[AP22]

Ignorance is a blessing in disguise.
If Pacifica can match gravity in handling, software and other capabilities please do enlighten me. I don’t go by looks I go by character so might be I’m blind

The design of my vehicles is important to me; we're different in that sense. No big deal.

 

[DrLucid]

The design of my vehicles is important to me; we're different in that sense. No big deal.

Yes we are. And looks wise approximation is different from the reality.

 

[DrLucid]

‘Like’.
This Apple autocorrect

 

[hydbob]

It has nothing to do with other consumers. I do not like the design. At the price point and with the size of my family, I'm an SUV buyer and a Range Rover Sport would fit the bill.

So go buy a Range Rover Sport. Choices are great!