First pre-production Gravity reviews are coming in

I am sure you know this already:
Gravity's max ground clearance is 8.7". R1S is 15". Toyota Sienna is 7 ". Lucid Air is 5".
Yes, though as Borski said Gravity's is actually 9.6" max. We've tested the ground clearance on our XC40 EV-SUV and Lucid Air many, many times. Verdict: not enough. You should see the rock marks on our XC40's diamond-turned rims. So the first two specs I've been researching are range and ground clearance.

15" max clearance is more than I need. I wouldn't to incur daily ride quality issues from buying a "too capable" suspension. 9.6" should be good enough unless I've had too much caffeine or am feeling too much testosterone that morning, and lost the discernment that should tell me to just stop and turn around.
 
I so hope you're right. But I was a little taken aback when a moderator on this forum and a huge and deeply-informed Lucid fan had to take a pass on a Gravity he wanted because his wife insisted it was too much like a minivan. That worries me.
As someone who has been married almost 40 years, I can respect and commend any husband who considers his wife's opinion. We don't have to agree, but I'm willing to compromise, depending on the situation.

I'm not a "happy wife, happy life" proponent. Honestly, I'm not responsible for your happiness, but I'll do my best to contribute to it, within reason.
I digress.

Cut him some slack. He's living with her (probably a very good option), not you! :)
And no, he probably won't let you try to talk his wife into trading in their choice for a Gravity. :)
 
Yes, though as Borski said Gravity's is actually 9.6" max. We've tested the ground clearance on our XC40 EV-SUV and Lucid Air many, many times. Verdict: not enough. You should see the rock marks on our XC40's diamond-turned rims. So the first two specs I've been researching are range and ground clearance.

15" max clearance is more than I need. I wouldn't to incur daily ride quality issues from buying a "too capable" suspension. 9.6" should be good enough unless I've had too much caffeine or am feeling too much testosterone that morning, and lost the discernment that should tell me to just stop and tu

Yes, though as Borski said Gravity's is actually 9.6" max. We've tested the ground clearance on our XC40 EV-SUV and Lucid Air many, many times. Verdict: not enough. You should see the rock marks on our XC40's diamond-turned rims. So the first two specs I've been researching are range and ground clearance.

15" max clearance is more than I need. I wouldn't to incur daily ride quality issues from buying a "too capable" suspension. 9.6" should be good enough unless I've had too much caffeine or am feeling too much testosterone that morning, and lost the discernment that should tell me to just stop and turn around.
I have seen Gravity's ground clearance spec'ed as 8.7", though @borski said it is 9.6" max. Not sure why there is a discrepancy. Perhaps tire size?


I don't know what kind of terrain you plan to drive on. A surface with protruding rocks adjacent to pot holes can eat up that clearance margin very quickly!
 
“…the Gravity Grand Touring comes standard with an air suspension that has 4.2 inches of height adjustment, maxing out at 9.6 inches of ground clearance.”

A RAV4 has 8.4-8.6 in.
Model Y? 6.6in
Nissan Rogue? 8.2 in
Chevy Equinox? 7.6 in

And that’s just the four most popular “SUVs” lol
Yay facts
 
As someone who has been married almost 40 years, I can respect and commend any husband who considers his wife's opinion. We don't have to agree, but I'm willing to compromise, depending on the situation.

I'm not a "happy wife, happy life" proponent. Honestly, I'm not responsible for your happiness, but I'll do my best to contribute to it, within reason.
I digress.

Cut him some slack. He's living with her (probably a very good option), not you! :)
And no, he probably won't let you try to talk his wife into trading in their choice for a Gravity. :)

I think you misunderstand the intent of my earlier post. I totally support the view that marriages and domestic relationships are two-way streets with no one partner having the right or privilege of imposing his or her view on the other on things either great or small. Personally, I have been in very long discussions in our house about which, if any, vehicle(s) we will shed when the Gravity arrives. I have a strong preference about what I would like to do, but I'm not about to try to move off on my own in such a matter.

What is worrying me is not that @Bobby "gave in to his wife" or any such thing, but that people feel strongly enough in their views that the Gravity looks like a minivan to cause Lucid to lose sales they would otherwise have gotten.

A lot is riding on the Gravity with Lucid, and it would be such a damn shame for it to founder over some perception that the Gravity is an undesirable vehicle because it looks like a minivan -- setting aside the facts that I actually like minivans and don't think the Gravity looks like one.

I just brought up the story @Bobby related because it came from someone I know is committed to the brand and understands its mission thoroughly. But I absolutely laud his attitude about how decisions get made in personal relationships.
 
I dno, I think it’s pretty, not sure what else matters :p
 
I think you misunderstand the intent of my earlier post. I totally support the view that marriages and domestic relationships are two-way streets with no one partner having the right or privilege of imposing his or her view on the other on things either great or small. Personally, I have been in very long discussions in our house about which, if any, vehicle(s) we will shed when the Gravity arrives. I have a strong preference about what I would like to do, but I'm not about to try to move off on my own in such a matter.

What is worrying me is not that @Bobby "gave in to his wife" or any such thing, but that people feel strongly enough in their views that the Gravity looks like a minivan to cause Lucid to lose sales they would otherwise have gotten.

A lot is riding on the Gravity with Lucid, and it would be such a damn shame for it to founder over some perception that the Gravity is an undesirable vehicle because it looks like a minivan -- setting aside the facts that I actually like minivans and don't think the Gravity looks like one.

I just brought up the story @Bobby related because it came from someone I know is committed to the brand and understands its mission thoroughly. But I absolutely laud his attitude about how decisions get made in personal relationships.
I know. I could see you "worry" in the text of your post.
Just kinda having fun, which is why I made sure to add the smiley faces in my post.

People feeling "strongly enough in their views that Gravity looks like a minivan to cause Lucid to lose sales they would otherwise have gotten", may happen.
However, that can change, especially after seeing it on the road or repeated exposure to it.
I have a Honda Element, that from day one I have hated the look of. It's a big box on wheels!
And yet after seeing them on the road for so long and then finally seeing people using it, quite well, for the very purpose I needed (outdoor gear), I gave in and bought one.
I still look at it and say "that's an ugly box on wheels", but I love it! It works for me and meets my needs.

Gravity has so much going for it and if the minivan look is the only reason some people are not buying it, I don't see that hurting Lucid sales that much.
Of course I could be totally wrong. I always reserve that right. :)

I liken this "minivan discussion" to the Rivian headlights, which actually may be a worse case.
I'd like to believe the Rivian headlights are more divisive that the Gravity pseudo minivan look.
I showed my wife a picture of a Rivian. Her response: "That's just plain ugly". Confirmation I needed.

As long as the minivan-haters at least buy an ev that contributes to the ev segment of the car industry and infrastructure needs, Lucid will be fine.
My opinion.

Who knows, for every person out there saying Gravity looks like a minivan, there could be a spouse say "I like it". :)
 
I know. I could see you "worry" in the text of your post.
Just kinda having fun, which is why I made sure to add the smiley faces in my post.

People feeling "strongly enough in their views that Gravity looks like a minivan to cause Lucid to lose sales they would otherwise have gotten", may happen.
However, that can change, especially after seeing it on the road or repeated exposure to it.
I have a Honda Element, that from day one I have hated the look of. It's a big box on wheels!
And yet after seeing them on the road for so long and then finally seeing people using it, quite well, for the very purpose I needed (outdoor gear), I gave in and bought one.
I still look at it and say "that's an ugly box on wheels", but I love it! It works for me and meets my needs.

Gravity has so much going for it and if the minivan look is the only reason some people are not buying it, I don't see that hurting Lucid sales that much.
Of course I could be totally wrong. I always reserve that right. :)

I liken this "minivan discussion" to the Rivian headlights, which actually may be a worse case.
I'd like to believe the Rivian headlights are more divisive that the Gravity pseudo minivan look.
I showed my wife a picture of a Rivian. Her response: "That's just plain ugly". Confirmation I needed.

As long as the minivan-haters at least buy an ev that contributes to the ev segment of the car industry and infrastructure needs, Lucid will be fine.
My opinion.

Who knows, for every person out there saying Gravity looks like a minivan, there could be a spouse say "I like it". :)
True. So far without hard data, but anecdotal comments, the real ratio is something like 7:3 for liking the styling vs its ugly or a minivan...
 
Guys, it’ll be fine. Lol.

Yes, some people won’t like it. That’s fine. They’ll eventually drive it anyway. Suddenly they’ll like it.

The Air had debatable looks too - remember all the “platinum looks old” and “gold is old” comments? Designs grow on you.

Maybe it’s a little like a minivan. I have no idea; doesn’t look that way to me, but okay.

Maybe if minivans drove like this does, they’d be cool again.
 
The Air had debatable looks too - remember all the “platinum looks old” and “gold is old” comments? Designs grow on you.

Yes, but the Air never got close to its early sales projections, even with very aggressive price cuts and lease deals. I don't think Lucid is looking to repeat that story with the Gravity.

What can I tell you? I worry. About all sorts of things.
 
I think you misunderstand the intent of my earlier post. I totally support the view that marriages and domestic relationships are two-way streets with no one partner having the right or privilege of imposing his or her view on the other on things either great or small. Personally, I have been in very long discussions in our house about which, if any, vehicle(s) we will shed when the Gravity arrives. I have a strong preference about what I would like to do, but I'm not about to try to move off on my own in such a matter.

What is worrying me is not that @Bobby "gave in to his wife" or any such thing, but that people feel strongly enough in their views that the Gravity looks like a minivan to cause Lucid to lose sales they would otherwise have gotten.

A lot is riding on the Gravity with Lucid, and it would be such a damn shame for it to founder over some perception that the Gravity is an undesirable vehicle because it looks like a minivan -- setting aside the facts that I actually like minivans and don't think the Gravity looks like one.

I just brought up the story @Bobby related because it came from someone I know is committed to the brand and understands its mission thoroughly. But I absolutely laud his attitude about how decisions get made in personal relationships.
My wife saw the Gravity in person. She knows the pros and cons. She has had an EV before. She decided she preferred one of the other vehicles we had seen. Simple as that. We have been married 30 years and, as a CSI, she knows how to kill me and get away with it. So I said “yes dear” and that was the end of the discussion.
 
Minivan has sliding doors, Gravity doesn’t . Bit like saying Audi all road is a 5 seater minivan.
 
Only thing that bothers me is all wheel sizes are staggered. This is a PITA for us winter users.
 
The Air had debatable looks too - remember all the “platinum looks old” and “gold is old” comments? Designs grow on you...
I certainly grew to like the looks of my Air over time.
 
“…the Gravity Grand Touring comes standard with an air suspension that has 4.2 inches of height adjustment, maxing out at 9.6 inches of ground clearance.”

A RAV4 has 8.4-8.6 in.
Model Y? 6.6in
Nissan Rogue? 8.2 in
Chevy Equinox? 7.6 in

And that’s just the four most popular “SUVs” lol
Not to beat a dead horse, but the percentage of time all of the SUV’s driven in the USA ever need more than 6” of ground clearance is likely less than 1%.

This concern about the “ability” to do things that these vehicles are virtually never used for and then pointing to them as “issues” for Gravity is just nonsensical to me.
 
I bet 99% of the people (outside of this forum) that comment about its looks or similarities to a minivan have either no intention of ever buying one anyway, can’t afford one, or think they are being clever to try to get clicks. Who cares - I think it looks awesome and can’t wait to try one in real life. Don’t really care AT ALL what anyone who is not making my payments for me cares about any of my decisions.
 
Not to beat a dead horse, but the percentage of time all of the SUV’s driven in the USA ever need more than 6” of ground clearance is likely less than 1%.

This concern about the “ability” to do things that these vehicles are virtually never used for and then pointing to them as “issues” for Gravity is just nonsensical to me.
This was my commute to work 2 years ago. https://www.google.com/amp/s/thenat...traffic-cars-stuck-state-roads-clogged-drains

This is the I-93 Tunnel in Boston yesterday, which I’ve driven through more times than I can count. https://www.nbcnews.com/video/cars-drive-through-rain-flooded-boston-tunnel-226885189667

Could I get through it in the Air? Maybe, but climate catastrophe is here and while maybe not past the tipping point, while I don’t like big vehicles, I’m coming around to arguments in favor of them.
 
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