Tesla supercharging working today?

hmp10 said:

We took a mini road trip today (~250 miles RT) to try a couple more charging stations with the Gravity. Our seamless experience with Tesla Supercharging of the Gravity continued. This time we used the Tesla app to initiate the charging instead of plug-and-charge in order to verify that we would get the fee discount with our monthly subscription plan ($12.99 with up to 5 charges per day allowed). We did, indeed, get the discount, and using the Tesla app only took a few moments longer . . . well worth the subscription cost for even a moderate amount of road tripping.

We also thought we'd try Electrify America for the first time with the Gravity, hoping that our long history of aggravation with EA would not repeat. No such luck.

We went to the EA chargers at The Mall at UTC, a huge shopping/dining complex in Sarasota, FL right off I-75. We have used those chargers before, always with the usual mixed result from EA: half the chargers malfunctioning and cars queued up for the few that were working.

The site was not operating. They had installed new chargers . . . and all at once instead of phasing them in to keep the site at least partially operational. In fact, the installers had just left the cable plugs lying on the pavement where they could get rained on and/or run over. I guess this is meant to continue the tradition of having half the EA chargers at a location out of service. Also, they were all CCS plugs, with no NACS plugs available -- something I thought EA was going to introduce with new charging installations. In short, it was the usual EA shit show.


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BTW . . . the Gravity Dream Edition is a road tripping beast: prodigiously powerful at higher speeds, firmly planted, immensely quiet and comfortable.

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DeaneG said:

Electrify America Network Updates

EA has installed a few new 400kW Alpitronic HYC400 dual-cable NACS/CCS plug charging stands as a pilot test, but those less reliable slant-top balanced 350kW CCS stands will be around for quite a while.

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hmp10 said:

I checked the EA website. Instead of just noting this station is temporarily closed, they have completely removed it from their website. I could not check to see whether it was on the list of stations in the Gravity's list of chargers, as that is one of the features that is not working while our nav system remains frozen and thinking the car is in California. We stopped there because we have used in on other occasions with our Air.

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DeaneG said:

Electrify America Network Updates

EA has installed a few new 400kW Alpitronic HYC400 dual-cable NACS/CCS plug charging stands as a pilot test, but those less reliable slant-top balanced 350kW CCS stands will be around for quite a while.

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Marvie100 said:

Has anyone else noticed that not all Tesla stations are showing up in the Lucid App? I’m not referring to incompatible ones either. There is a level 4 supercharger that I found in San Fernando on supercharge.info that says it’s compatible with Lucid in the Tesla App, but it doesn’t show in the Lucid app. Would kind of suck if we’re not getting all the info to route to compatible chargers in the Lucid app/soon to be in-car.

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hmp10 said:

A few Supercharger stations that are technically capable of use by NACS partners are nevertheless closed to non-Teslas due to high traffic volume. Is it possible this is one of those stations?

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tonybot said:

. . . plug and charge worked fine without using the Tesla app. Car prompted me to open the Lucid app for additional steps, asking me to confirm I have the adapter and let me select the station.

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hmp10 said:

I think "plug and charge" means you don't have to use any app to initiate a charge. For example, with the Gravity, you simply plug into a NACS-partner Supercharger, and charging begins immediately. No apps are involved—except that if you have the Tesla monthly subscription to get lower charging fees, you have to initiate the charge through your Tesla account on the Tesla app.

Since the Lucid app asked you to verify you have an adapter, I wonder if having to use the Lucid app for the Air is a first-time thing only or will be required every time? When we used a Supercharger with our Air, the Lucid app said additional steps were required but did not give access to any such steps, so we had to initiate through the Tesla app, anyway.

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tonybot said:

That's a good point. I guess plug-and-charge is the wrong terminology to use in these cases. In my case, the app's home page showed what needed to be done, as indicated in the screenshot. I need to see if similar steps are required in the future or if it truly is plug-and-charge.

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hmp10 said:

Several other posters have reported also not being guided to the next steps on the Lucid app, while others are reporting your experience. It's another one of those Lucid software introductions that have random outcomes across the owner base.

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1. Lucid couldn't figure out how to add Tesla chargers to the in-car map? I mean, they already have the notion of multiple charging networks. How hard would it be to add another?? They'll have to do it eventually, so why didn't they do it before the "roll out"?
2. All the messaging and the documentation for the adapter says that plug-in-charge at NACS is now here. Except it isn't. Pretty lame.
3. The error message you get when PnC doesn't work is really, truly unhelpful. No where does it say, "Uh, maybe try the Tesla app."

AltadenaAir said:

From the posts above, everyone seems to be experiencing charge rates of less than 50kW. The Lucid adapter I received claims it is good to 500A, which would be enough to enable the full speed of the Superchargers. So is Tesla throttling non-Teslas?

I only need these SuperChargers when I am on a long road trip, and on road trips charging at <50kW is a non-starter. Remember, I purchased the car because they advertised "up to 350kW" charging rates. And the charging rate curve is workable - run down to 10% (still have 40 miles left) and get some nice fast electrons until you reach around 50%. 48kW might work in a rare circumstance, say, when I want to get a few miles at a SC while I am grabbing an In-N-Out Burger. But it's not the needed get-250-miles-while-I-visit-the-restroom charging rate.

And, oh, yeah, plug-n-charge doesn't work for me, even though my car and phone are both up-to-date and I visited a supposedly "non-Teslas welcome" charging site.

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1. Lucid couldn't figure out how to add Tesla chargers to the in-car map? I mean, they already have the notion of multiple charging networks. How hard would it be to add another?? They'll have to do it eventually, so why didn't they do it before the "roll out"?
2. All the messaging and the documentation for the adapter says that plug-in-charge at NACS is now here. Except it isn't. Pretty lame.
3. The error message you get when PnC doesn't work is really, truly unhelpful. No where does it say, "Uh, maybe try the Tesla app."

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Let’s stop with “Tesla is throttling non-Tesla’s”. It’s absolute nonsense.

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I don’t know how many times this needs to be stated in this forum!

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