Anyone know of bidirectional charging status?

[SaratogaLefty]

As Borski said I directly asked (again) about V2H at our Napa event two different Lucid employees who are directly involved. One said "very soon" and the other said "this year". One of them I spoke with a few months ago and he said at that time it would happen in 2025. So I am hopeful it is approaching completion. As SCal said above I also was initially attracted to purchasing my Lucid because of the promise of V2H made in 2021. I bought one of the very first LCHCS in January of 2022 and had it installed by the owner of EV Experts locally who had been working closely with Lucid on the development of it and the promise of V2H. So after three + years still optimistic it is just around the corner.

 

[MorganB]

As Borski said I directly asked (again) about V2H at our Napa event two different Lucid employees who are directly involved. One said "very soon" and the other said "this year". One of them I spoke with a few months ago and he said at that time it would happen in 2025. So I am hopeful it is approaching completion. As SCal said above I also was initially attracted to purchasing my Lucid because of the promise of V2H made in 2021. I bought one of the very first LCHCS in January of 2022 and had it installed by the owner of EV Experts locally who had been working closely with Lucid on the development of it and the promise of V2H. So after three + years still optimistic it is just around the corner.

I'm curious how it will be implemented considering Gravity has a different charging port. I remember when I bought my Air in Dec 23 the Lucid charger was a requirement for V2H but there currently is not LHC for the gravity correct?

 

[SaaSManKS]

This feature is(was) very high on my list as well, I remember a SC I had a good relationship with said it was coming in Q3/Q4...that was back in 2023.

 

[SaratogaLefty]

Yeah lots of "soon" and "later this year" but this time I'm optimistic this is actually going to happen this year.

 

[Buffalo Bob]

I thought this was an interesting article... https://www.carscoops.com/2025/05/europe-monster-power-cut-evs/

...and an interesting quote, which helped me realize just how much emergency power we would potentially have...

"Not all electric cars support V2H, even though the technology has been around for years. But according to the UK think tank Energy and Climate Intelligence Unit (ECIU), an average EV with a 71 kWh battery and V2H capability could power a home for nearly six days using just 60 percent of its charge."

When Lucid V2H is realized, do you think Lucid will sell the OEM hardware necessary to complete a non-solar home installation along with the LHCS?

 

[msaunders9430]

I thought this was an interesting article... https://www.carscoops.com/2025/05/europe-monster-power-cut-evs/

...and an interesting quote, which helped me realize just how much emergency power we would potentially have...

"Not all electric cars support V2H, even though the technology has been around for years. But according to the UK think tank Energy and Climate Intelligence Unit (ECIU), an average EV with a 71 kWh battery and V2H capability could power a home for nearly six days using just 60 percent of its charge."

When Lucid V2H is realized, do you think Lucid will sell the OEM hardware necessary to complete a non-solar home installation along with the LHCS?

What bothers me about that article is that it kind of paints a misleading picture of V2H with an ev being as simple as just owning an ev.

We know additional hardware is needed, but there's no mention of that in the article and others I've read.

What we (ev advocates) don't need is people buying an ev because they were told they could power their home during a power outage and no mention of the additional hardware, with the related cost. "Do your research" is foreign concepts to some and caveat emptor doesn't keep full grown adults from complaining.

Bi-directional charging is the main reason I'm getting the LCHS versus a Charge Point. Lucid indicating they would sell the required additional hardware would help quite a bit while we wait during their development process. Ford and GM provide the hardware for their EVs. I can see Lucid partnering with another company to provide the hardware.

 

[HC_79]

Bi-directional charging is the main reason I'm getting the LCHS versus a Charge Point. Lucid indicating they would sell the required additional hardware would help quite a bit while we wait during their development process. Ford and GM provide the hardware for their EVs. I can see Lucid partnering with another company to provide the hardware.

I wouldn’t buy the LHCS until Lucid actually announces it. Remember when they did the RangeXchange? They couldn’t just give you a new cable that had to give a whole new charger. What’s not to say the LHCS hardware ends up not being compatible with what Lucid ends up offering. The existing hardware is years old now, things change.

 

[DeaneG]

What bothers me about that article is that it kind of paints a misleading picture of V2H with an ev being as simple as just owning an ev.
We know additional hardware is needed, but there's no mention of that in the article and others I've read....

Additional hardware and typically a somewhat expensive installation, depending on the details of your home.

 

[SaaSManKS]

Speaking of V2H I’m selling a LHCS in another thread if anyone’s interested… https://lucidowners.com/threads/lhcs-for-sale.12369/

 

[msaunders9430]

I wouldn’t buy the LHCS until Lucid actually announces it. Remember when they did the RangeXchange? They couldn’t just give you a new cable that had to give a whole new charger. What’s not to say the LHCS hardware ends up not being compatible with what Lucid ends up offering. The existing hardware is years old now, things change.

I suppose a key difference between the first gen mobile charger and the LCHCS is the first gen mobile charger was never marketed as being bi-directional ready.
The LCHCS is marketed with that capability.
It's similar to DreamDrive 2 Pro having "Future-capable ADAS hardware".

LHCS has "future-capable bi-directional hardware"?

Additional hardware and typically a somewhat expensive installation, depending on the details of your home.

Good point; at least $7k for Ford or GM hardware.

Obvious question for me: Do I lose power enough to justify that cost? No.

 

[scal_air]

I thought this was an interesting article... https://www.carscoops.com/2025/05/europe-monster-power-cut-evs/

...and an interesting quote, which helped me realize just how much emergency power we would potentially have...

"Not all electric cars support V2H, even though the technology has been around for years. But according to the UK think tank Energy and Climate Intelligence Unit (ECIU), an average EV with a 71 kWh battery and V2H capability could power a home for nearly six days using just 60 percent of its charge."

When Lucid V2H is realized, do you think Lucid will sell the OEM hardware necessary to complete a non-solar home installation along with the LHCS?

Just doing some quick calculations...
60 percent of 71kWh is 42kWh - and they said this can power an average household for 6 days??? That would suggest that the average home uses 7 kWh per day. Since I have solar with an app that calculates generation and consumption, I know that my average daily use runs in the low 30kWh. So even acknowledging that I use more than the average person, the 7kWh estimate is ridiculously low. (Edit: apparently the average household use in the UK is 8-10 kWh compared to the 30kWh in the USA according to Google )

But the good news is that my fully charged car can almost give me 3 days of electricity should I need it. - that is when V2H finally comes.

 

[Steve181]

I would settle for V2L. Much, much simpler!

 

[borski]

I would settle for V2L. Much, much simpler!

Currently exists and works on Gravity, fwiw. No idea if or when it’s coming to Air, of course.

 

[dscafetta]

No announcements yet.

2 1/2 YEARS later, any updates?

 

[illopp00]

Currently exists and works on Gravity, fwiw. No idea if or when it’s coming to Air, of course.

Is this through the charge point and separate cables? Or mainly the 3 outlets? I just watch a video on YT that said each outlet is 1.8KW export, or is that total across the outlets?

 

[borski]

Is this through the charge point and separate cables? Or mainly the 3 outlets? I just watch a video on YT that said each outlet is 1.8KW export, or is that total across the outlets?

Outlets.

From the manual: “Each AC outlet in the vehicle can provide 1.8kW of power and be used simultaneously.”

You can keep the outlets on even when the car is off, unless you are either charging the car or have less than 50mi SOC.

 

[sbr41]

@borski we would love to hear from you if you have any insider updates on V2H!

 

[sri]

Vision 2030 is my target not to get disappointed

@borski we would love to hear from you if you have any insider updates on V2H!

 

[Steve181]

Outlets.

From the manual: “Each AC outlet in the vehicle can provide 1.8kW of power and be used simultaneously.”

You can keep the outlets on even when the car is off, unless you are either charging the car or have less than 50mi SOC.

That is great!! I would settle for an external adapter box that plugged into the Air's charger port.

 

[segbrk]

That is great!! I would settle for an external adapter box that plugged into the Air's charger port.

What kind of L do you want to run? If it's not too power hungry you can run it off the 180W 12VDC socket in the trunk with an inverter of some sort. I use a battery with a 12VDC input and a built-in inverter, but there's probably something smaller you can get without the battery.