Ordering and Delivery: Lucid Air Touring

[pman]

Exciting times.

 

[openball]

Nice comparison. These are silver and Grey?

Yes they are.

 

[Brooklynboy]

I officially dropped the stealth option on Friday and VIN was assigned last night. DA said to expect delivery by the end of March if not sooner.

 

[Babyrocko1908]

Thank you! I looked it up and it seems I have 110v (only) in the garage. My W/D is in my laundry room so can't use that outlet. Is there anything to be concerned about using the 110v?
That is, if I purchase the lucid home charger and plug it into my garage outlets, am I good to go or do I need to do anything else?

Don't ever use a dryer outlet!!!! They're not rated for the heavy electrical current charging an EV for substantial periods of time requires. The outlet will likely fail and become a fire hazard. Please, please hire an qualified licensed electrician. These EVSE's are not to be played with. You want this job done right!

 

[quantum]

I officially dropped the stealth option on Friday and VIN was assigned last night. DA said to expect delivery by the end of March if not sooner.

I initially wanted the stealth, but when I had my Model S trim blacked out, after a while I liked the silver trim better. So I decided to go with the non-stealth look.

 

[openball]

Don't ever use a dryer outlet!!!! They're not rated for the heavy electrical current charging an EV for substantial periods of time requires. The outlet will likely fail and become a fire hazard. Please, please hire an qualified licensed electrician. These EVSE's are not to be played with. You want this job done right!

I'm installing a L2 charger but also want to run a second 240v 50amp line, as a backup or to use as a second charger when/if I get the gravity. It should not be a problem charging with that right?

 

[MHDave]

I'm installing a L2 charger but also want to run a second 240v 50amp line, as a backup or to use as a second charger when/if I get the gravity. It should not be a problem charging with that right?

Hard-wired connections and higher amp ratings on the circuit are the best, but plug-in especially as backup is fine, assuming the circuit is rating for the amperage you're using. As @Babyrocko1908 noted, circuits intended for occasional service such as a dryer may not have been installed for heavy duty service such as your car charging on hot days, but that's something to discuss with an electrician as the breaker and wire ratings and wiring locations are involved. Running a new 50A service for a 40A charger should be fine.
There are some relatively minor concerns around plugging/unplugging into a NEMA 14-50 outlet due to strain on the connectors and wear.

 

[Babyrocko1908]

I'm installing a L2 charger but also want to run a second 240v 50amp line, as a backup or to use as a second charger when/if I get the gravity. It should not be a problem charging with that right?

I am not competent to answer this question. Please reach out to a licensed and qualified local electrician.

 

[Lucken]

Hard-wired connections and higher amp ratings on the circuit are the best

True, but installing an outlet makes switching out chargers and/or moving a lot easier. I've gone through 3 different chargers since my first EV, and all I had to do was unplug and plug. Since the charging takes place overnight, the small increase in speed for a hard wired connection didn't outweigh the advantages of 'plug & unplug' for me. YMMV.

 

[Babyrocko1908]

Hard-wired connections and higher amp ratings on the circuit are the best

I can attest to this. I've had a garage fire and it was one of the scariest days of my life. It was easy ruling out installing a NEMA 14-50 plug in favor of hardwiring my EVSE. I'm also pulling a max of 10.3 kWh charging from my 40 amp unit instead of the 9.6 kWh I was expecting. I'm certain this is due to the EVSE being hardwired.

 

[Babyrocko1908]

True, but installing an outlet makes switching out chargers and/or moving a lot easier. I've gone through 3 different chargers since my first EV, and all I had to do was unplug and plug. Since the charging takes place overnight, the small increase in speed for a hard wired connection didn't outweigh the advantages of 'plug & unplug' for me. YMMV.

No arguments here. However, this is why I keep the one that came with the car in my trunk.

 

[The Nuck]

My White/Tahoe is being delivered to my house today around noon. So excited. Only bummer is that it is supposed to be raining at noon.
5 days shy of two years since I put in my reservation. I hope it will be worth the wait.

 

[off]

I'm installing a L2 charger but also want to run a second 240v 50amp line, as a backup or to use as a second charger when/if I get the gravity. It should not be a problem charging with that right?

Unfortunately 50a circuits can't be daisy chained (like a 15a or 20a breaker). One direct plug (or hard wire) from the breaker. If you want another NEMA 14-50R plug or hardwire, have to install a second 50a breaker. But be careful with reaching the limitation of your break box.

 

[moytoyx]

Hard-wired connections and higher amp ratings on the circuit are the best, but plug-in especially as backup is fine, assuming the circuit is rating for the amperage you're using. As @Babyrocko1908 noted, circuits intended for occasional service such as a dryer may not have been installed for heavy duty service such as your car charging on hot days, but that's something to discuss with an electrician as the breaker and wire ratings and wiring locations are involved. Running a new 50A service for a 40A charger should be fine.
There are some relatively minor concerns around plugging/unplugging into a NEMA 14-50 outlet due to strain on the connectors and wear.

And make sure the receptacle is a heavy duty one like: Hubbell Wiring Device-Kellems 50 A, Industrial, Receptacle, Black, No Tamper Resistant HBL9450A - https://a.co/d/6UlrHdY (amazon link). My electrician is supposed to install this Saturday. Make sure to take advantage of all federal and state incentives!

 

[Canyonero!]

Don't ever use a dryer outlet!!!! They're not rated for the heavy electrical current charging an EV for substantial periods of time requires. The outlet will likely fail and become a fire hazard. Please, please hire an qualified licensed electrician. These EVSE's are not to be played with. You want this job done right!

A dryer outlet is just another outlet, and it can handle the current that it was designed for.

This is typically 24 amps on a 30 amp circuit. As long as you don't exceed that, you should be fine.

This assumes that you are not doing something like plugging the EVSE & the dryer in at the same time using a Y adapter.

24 Amps @ 240 is still 5.7 kW, which should be plently.

 

[Tesla2.0]

Thank you! I looked it up and it seems I have 110v (only) in the garage. My W/D is in my laundry room so can't use that outlet. Is there anything to be concerned about using the 110v?
That is, if I purchase the lucid home charger and plug it into my garage outlets, am I good to go or do I need to do anything else?

There are many ways, best is to get hardwire for safety. There was this product I saw in Electrify Expo show that can be handy to lower your amperage to be safe as dryer outlet splitter.

Splitvolt Safety Certified Splitter Switch NEMA 14-30 / 14-50

The safety certified NEMA 14-30 / 14/50 Splitvolt Splitter Switch allows you to safely and automatically share your 220V - 240V dryer outlet with your EV charger, creating your own home fast level 2 charging station. No electrical installation required! Plug it in and you have safe, L2, fast...

splitvolt.com

 

[Babyrocko1908]

A dryer outlet is just another outlet, and it can handle the current that it was designed for.

This is typically 24 amps on a 30 amp circuit. As long as you don't exceed that, you should be fine.

This assumes that you are not doing something like plugging the EVSE & the dryer in at the same time using a Y adapter.

24 Amps @ 240 is still 5.7 kW, which should be plently.

Yeah, good luck with that.

 

[Tesla2.0]

I can attest to this. I've had a garage fire and it was one of the scariest days of my life. It was easy ruling out installing a NEMA 14-50 plug in favor of hardwiring my EVSE. I'm also pulling a max of 10.3 kWh charging from my 40 amp unit instead of the 9.6 kWh I was expecting. I'm certain this is due to the EVSE being hardwired.

No arguments here. However, this is why I keep the one that came with the car in my trunk.

NEMA 14-30 Charging Adapter

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I bought this and put in my trunk as backup. I never know I may ended up getting an AirBnB stay and use their dryer. I even bought extension cord as well.

 

[Canyonero!]

Yeah, good luck with that.

With what? Using the NEMA 10-30 outlet, or getting 24 amps out of it?

 

[Babyrocko1908]

NEMA 14-30 Charging Adapter

Lucid Motors official store for Lucid Motors and Lucid Air t-shirts, jackets, caps, and drinkware. Browse our Lucid Living accessories and merchandise collection.

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I bought this and put in my trunk as backup. I never know I may ended up getting an AirBnB stay and use their dryer. I even bought extension cord as well.

I'm going to pick this one up as well. Which extension cord did you go with?