Lucid vs Tesla

[hmp10]

But, as a fact, you're right - the Tesla has more features. I just don't care for many of them, and hope Lucid only builds the obviously useful ones; dog mode, sentry, etc.

The Tesla certainly has more entertainment features, some of which will be of interest mostly to kids and thus to parents, as is blueice89's case. (I have to admit that I would like to watch YouTube on the car screen when I'm sitting in airport cell phone or shopping mall lots in our Air.)

However, while Lucid is still having more software bugs than our Plaid (which is not quite bug-free), many of Lucid's driving-related features are more comprehensive and easier to access than Tesla's. You have to go into submenus to change the drive mode in the Tesla. Redirecting A/C vents is ludicrously annoying in the Tesla. Changing temperature and volume settings from the passenger seat is very difficult if the Tesla is moving and a bit tricky when it isn't. On the Air, I like having a zoomed-in satellite map that can display direction of travel on the upper screen and a zoomed-out satellite map on the lower screen that can be oriented to the compass. I love the birds-eye-view display in the Air when parking and find its absence in the Tesla downright aggravating.

Lucid has been slammed -- and deservedly so -- for releasing a car with such problem-ridden software just over a year ago. But they have made real progress in addressing those problems, with driving-assist features perhaps still furtherest behind the curve of some others in the industry.

BUT -- and this is crucial -- Lucids are built with key hardware (a comprehensive sensor array, including lidar) that Tesla lacks and that will thus keep current Teslas from ever catching up to certain Lucid features. This hardware includes cameras positioned so as to enable computer-synthesizing of a birds-eye-view; manual controls for A/C functions such as vent position, temperature, and fan speed; a horn button that can be found in an emergency (unlike a Tesla with a yoke); turn signals that can be found where expected no matter what the steering wheel position (again with the yoke).

While today a 2022 Tesla Model S is less plagued with software issues than a 2022 Lucid Air, in another year or two the Lucid will be the easier, quieter, and more pleasant car to drive and control. And it will always have that roomier interior with that vastly more commodious rear seat.

 

[DeaneG]

It took Tesla more than six years to add GPS waypoint capability to its cars, in the meantime adding fart mode, etc. It was one of the reasons I sold my Model 3.

 

[DeaneG]

...BUT -- and this is crucial -- Lucids are built with key hardware (a comprehensive sensor array, including lidar) that Tesla lacks and that will thus keep current Teslas from ever catching up to certain Lucid features. This hardware includes cameras positioned so as to enable computer-synthesizing of a birds-eye-view; manual controls for A/C functions such as vent position, temperature, and fan speed; a horn button that can be found in an emergency (unlike a Tesla with a yoke); turn signals that can be found where expected no matter what the steering wheel position (again with the yoke)....

Also no Tesla car has blindspot warning in the side view mirrors where it belongs. This safety feature is available in most every midrange car.

 

[blueice89]

The Tesla certainly has more entertainment features, some of which will be of interest mostly to kids and thus to parents, as is blueice89's case. (I have to admit that I would like to watch YouTube on the car screen when I'm sitting in airport cell phone or shopping mall lots in our Air.)

However, while Lucid is still having more software bugs than our Plaid (which is not quite bug-free), many of Lucid's driving-related features are more comprehensive and easier to access than Tesla's. You have to go into submenus to change the drive mode in the Tesla. Redirecting A/C vents is ludicrously annoying in the Tesla. Changing temperature and volume settings from the passenger seat is very difficult if the Tesla is moving and a bit tricky when it isn't. On the Air, I like having a zoomed-in satellite map that can display direction of travel on the upper screen and a zoomed-out satellite map on the lower screen that can be oriented to the compass. I love the birds-eye-view display in the Air when parking and find its absence in the Tesla downright aggravating.

Lucid has been slammed -- and deservedly so -- for releasing a car with such problem-ridden software just over a year ago. But they have made real progress in addressing those problems, with driving-assist features perhaps still furtherest behind the curve of some others in the industry.

BUT -- and this is crucial -- Lucids are built with key hardware (a comprehensive sensor array, including lidar) that Tesla lacks and that will thus keep current Teslas from ever catching up to certain Lucid features. This hardware includes cameras positioned so as to enable computer-synthesizing of a birds-eye-view; manual controls for A/C functions such as vent position, temperature, and fan speed; a horn button that can be found in an emergency (unlike a Tesla with a yoke); turn signals that can be found where expected no matter what the steering wheel position (again with the yoke).

While today a 2022 Tesla Model S is less plagued with software issues than a 2022 Lucid Air, in another year or two the Lucid will be the easier, quieter, and more pleasant car to drive and control. And it will always have that roomier interior with that vastly more commodious rear seat.

Yeah only thing really holding me back on Lucid is the refined software and charging network. Once they get those then Lucid is going to look very attractive to me. Likely I would buy a used GT in couple years once they are a little cheaper.

One thing on drive modes for me I have set plaid to plaid mode and just leave it there I think Lucid needs to remove that disclaimer on Sprint mode. I set my plaid on it’s “sprint mode” and just left it there .

Other thing I wonder about during my couple weeks with Lucid I didn’t like the drop down screen and always caught myself looking down at it. See in Tesla you can just pop it into auto pilot and if you need to adjust something it’s pretty easy cause you can see the road ahead of you and the car is mostly steering and watching it’s speed. Do you get used to looking down at Lucid screen? I rather look up cause up is where the road sight is. Also does the Lucid let you autopilot in simple city streets? Like if you have to fiddle with your phone or need both hands for something?

Thanks !

 

[Tesla2.0]

Yeah only thing really holding me back on Lucid is the refined software and charging network. Once they get those then Lucid is going to look very attractive to me. Likely I would buy a used GT in couple years once they are a little cheaper.

One thing on drive modes for me I have set plaid to plaid mode and just leave it there I think Lucid needs to remove that disclaimer on Sprint mode. I set my plaid on it’s “sprint mode” and just left it there .

Other thing I wonder about during my couple weeks with Lucid I didn’t like the drop down screen and always caught myself looking down at it. See in Tesla you can just pop it into auto pilot and if you need to adjust something it’s pretty easy cause you can see the road ahead of you and the car is mostly steering and watching it’s speed. Do you get used to looking down at Lucid screen? I rather look up cause up is where the road sight is. Also does the Lucid let you autopilot in simple city streets? Like if you have to fiddle with your phone or need both hands for something?

Thanks !

I think you are in the wrong forum. But you seems to enjoy that.

 

[blueice89]

I think you are in the wrong forum. But you seems to enjoy that.

This post is on this topic Lucid vs Tesla. If I have gone off topic let me know and I will shut up

 

[RM-S8]

Mods, can we have "ignore" button added to the site?
Pretty please?

 

[hydbob]

Mods, can we have "ignore" button added to the site?
Pretty please?

It's there already...

 

[hydbob]

Yeah only thing really holding me back on Lucid is the refined software and charging network. Once they get those then Lucid is going to look very attractive to me. Likely I would buy a used GT in couple years once they are a little cheaper.

One thing on drive modes for me I have set plaid to plaid mode and just leave it there I think Lucid needs to remove that disclaimer on Sprint mode. I set my plaid on it’s “sprint mode” and just left it there .

Other thing I wonder about during my couple weeks with Lucid I didn’t like the drop down screen and always caught myself looking down at it. See in Tesla you can just pop it into auto pilot and if you need to adjust something it’s pretty easy cause you can see the road ahead of you and the car is mostly steering and watching it’s speed. Do you get used to looking down at Lucid screen? I rather look up cause up is where the road sight is. Also does the Lucid let you autopilot in simple city streets? Like if you have to fiddle with your phone or need both hands for something?

Thanks !

The only thing you need both hands for while driving is driving, especially on city streets. Please stay away from me while you drive your Tesla

 

[blueice89]

The only thing you need both hands for while driving is driving, especially on city streets. Please stay away from me while you drive your Tesla

How do you trade stocks? Lol. [Moderator note: this sarcastic comment is a joke and in no way promotes using the phone while driving! -@bobby]

 

[RM-S8]

It's there already...

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Done!

 

[hydbob]

How do you trade stocks? Lol

Definitely not while driving...

 

[Grnr92663]

More reason for Lucid & all other carmakers to be very conservative with ADAS - and keep the radar/lidar on the car.

On the way to Vegas last night, a Tesla ran onto a big truck at full speed .. Didn't even see brake mark....

 

[blueice89]

More reason for Lucid & all other carmakers to be very conservative with ADAS - and keep the radar/lidar on the car.

On the way to Vegas last night, a Tesla ran onto a big truck at full speed .. Didn't even see brake mark....

Unless this is proven to be ADAS this kind of fud and possibly due to driver error. Tesla cars tend to be pretty safe having driven them for almost 5 years and never having an issue.

 

[joec]

Unless this is proven to be ADAS this kind of fud and possibly due to driver error. Tesla cars tend to be pretty safe having driven them for almost 5 years and never having an issue.

I'd argue driving 1 Tesla for 5 years does not make all Teslas safe. Sort of anecdotal, as far as arguments go.

But the data does also support your theory.

I agree with you it's very likely this driver was not paying sufficient attention if they didn't even brake before hitting a truck at this speed. We don't have enough info to know for sure.

But it's well established that many Tesla owners with FSD put way too much faith in what boils down to a mediocre level 2 system. And Tesla have made little to no effort to dissuade people from thinking that way. Their marketing, in fact, has encouraged people to think the car can "drive itself" when it cannot. Not even close.

And people are dying. Including innocent victims who are driving near these cars.

So yes. A Tesla, driven by a responsible adult, is likely as safe, if not more safe, than many cars on the road. They just seem to attract a lot of folks who are not responsible adults, for some strange reason.

 

[Grnr92663]

Unless this is proven to be ADAS this kind of fud and possibly due to driver error. Tesla cars tend to be pretty safe having driven them for almost 5 years and never having an issue.

What FUD ? All I stated is that radar and lidar would add secondary & further layers to ADAS system, and help cars to detect obstacles. Just because Musk disagreed with this make it FUD ?
And all I stated is that there's no brake mark, the car slammed onto the truck at full speed. THe force was so powerful, it lift the truck

 

[HC_79]

Unless this is proven to be ADAS this kind of fud and possibly due to driver error. Tesla cars tend to be pretty safe having driven them for almost 5 years and never having an issue.

Was probably doing what you stated you do on Autopilot

"Like if you have to fiddle with your phone or need both hands for something?"

 

[Bobby]

Unless this is proven to be ADAS this kind of fud and possibly due to driver error. Tesla cars tend to be pretty safe having driven them for almost 5 years and never having an issue.

I thought Tesla had automatic emergency braking?

 

[Steveinarizona]

I thought Tesla had automatic emergency braking?

Based on other reports I have seen, not if the tractor trailer is stopped. You know the signs one sees on the road: this car stops for railroad crossings? Well, Teslas emergency stop for moving vehicles.

 

[HC_79]

I thought Tesla had automatic emergency braking?

It does, just not when you need it

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