WINDSHIELD REFLECTIONS ( Dash & HUD)

I am having PPF added to my car this week. The shop owner offered to apply matt PPF to the LCD displays. It turned out so good that I asked him to do the same to the HUD. I’ll be picking the car up later this week. Will let everyone know if it helps with the reflections.
 
I am having PPF added to my car this week. The shop owner offered to apply matt PPF to the LCD displays. It turned out so good that I asked him to do the same to the HUD. I’ll be picking the car up later this week. Will let everyone know if it helps with the reflections.
How exactly was this installed? You mean like a screen protector film on the displays?
 
I am having PPF added to my car this week. The shop owner offered to apply matt PPF to the LCD displays. It turned out so good that I asked him to do the same to the HUD. I’ll be picking the car up later this week. Will let everyone know if it helps with the reflections.
How exactly was this installed? You mean like a screen protector film on the displays?
Curious as well. I assume this will be a custom cut.
 
Curious as well. I assume this will be a custom cut.
Yes, it’s a custom cut. We’ll see if they can do it, given the HUB lens is concave.
 
What’s frustrating is some owners noting that this fabric is now coming factory installed fixing the issue, but I can’t get confirmation from the company.
Mine I picked up last weekend has the fabric.
 

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And no glare like the attached?
Someone posted a pic of it before, it sits on the inner frame on the window side.

I see more reflection of the large frame to be honest.
 
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Reflections Before and After
 

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Reflections Before and After
Most of the reflection appears to be the frame, not the lens, in the first pic. I wonder what it would look like if you wrapped the frame in that material. Has anyone tried to pull that frame off?
 
This is the fabric you mean (my pic from a few weeks ago): https://lucidowners.com/threads/our-third-gravity-de-are-they-getting-better.14491/#post-319876

It doesn't get rid of the reflection of the frame of the HUD housing around the sides at all, not really sure what it's for other than maybe something about the "blue blob" reflections some earlier owners were reporting.
I’m referring to @docmar9’s second pic with the black cloth covering the entire frame & lens. The reflection of the frame in the window disappears entirely. I wonder if the entire HUD frame (sans lens) could be wrapped in that black cloth to make the frame reflections disappear. The frame would need to be removed to do that.

The black flocking on the front inside edge of the frame that you refer to in your linked thread I do not have on my DE#195, which was made in September and delivered in October. I wonder what purpose it serves?
 
I just ordered some matte black gaffer tape from Amazon in 1” and 2” widths. I’m going to try using that on the frame to see if it reduces reflections. If it does, I may look into having my PPF guy wrap the frame with matte black PPF.

Ideally, that HUD frame could be removed, but when I try and lift on it the frame doesn’t want to give.
 
I’m referring to @docmar9’s second pic with the black cloth covering the entire frame & lens. The reflection of the frame in the window disappears entirely. I wonder if the entire HUD frame (sans lens) could be wrapped in that black cloth to make the frame reflections disappear. The frame would need to be removed to do that.

The black flocking on the front inside edge of the frame that you refer to in your linked thread I do not have on my DE#195, which was made in September and delivered in October. I wonder what purpose it serves?
I was referring to the fabric eelpout and RLead8 were talking about. When I got my Gravity it had a strip of flocking inside the HUD frame that I hadn't seen before and apparently that only some people that have recently taken delivery have. While it doesn't do anything for the reflection of the HUD's frame I wonder if it was placed there to mitigate the "blue blob" reflections many earlier deliveries suffered from, I can't see any other use honestly.

I also think that there's a case to be made for removing the plastic shroud and coating it in a more non-reflective material. If it's at all easy to remove the frame I'd probably want to go with the same kind of flocking that a lot of people use to remove reflections on the dashboards of race cars. I'd probably also consider it for the air vent to the right of the HUD as that also has a reflection in the windshield a lot of the time too.

I've seen cars with dashboards done in this material and it definitely works, it's just a bit of a pain to do: https://www.flockit.com/
 
I was referring to the fabric eelpout and RLead8 were talking about. When I got my Gravity it had a strip of flocking inside the HUD frame that I hadn't seen before and apparently that only some people that have recently taken delivery have. While it doesn't do anything for the reflection of the HUD's frame I wonder if it was placed there to mitigate the "blue blob" reflections many earlier deliveries suffered from, I can't see any other use honestly.

I also think that there's a case to be made for removing the plastic shroud and coating it in a more non-reflective material. If it's at all easy to remove the frame I'd probably want to go with the same kind of flocking that a lot of people use to remove reflections on the dashboards of race cars. I'd probably also consider it for the air vent to the right of the HUD as that also has a reflection in the windshield a lot of the time too.

I've seen cars with dashboards done in this material and it definitely works, it's just a bit of a pain to do: https://www.flockit.com/
Yeah, I called my SA about the HUD frame. He talked to a tech and said there’s no way to remove that frame without removing the dash. I also visited my PPF shop about wrapping the frame in a matte PPF. The installer said the black matte PPF would still show a reflection similar to the gray frame. He recommended a velvet flocking material. There’s plenty of options on Amazon. I’m about to go take some measurements of that frame. I’m debating whether to use 1” & 2” velvet strips, or to cut single piece and fold it over the edges, so that there’s minimal seams. Honestly, the reflection of that frame is so bad I can’t believe Lucid didn’t flock it. That would seem to be HUD engineering 101. The air vent also reflects badly, but it’s not interfering with the HUD view-ability and it doesn’t bother me.
 
Here’s a possible solution:

Buy this:
This is the same glare mechanism seen in:
  • Fighter jet HUD hoods
  • Aviation HUDs
  • BMW / Audi / GM HUD complaints
  • Camera viewfinder ghosting
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1364750-REG/japan_hobbyE4E078A5-A7BE-4642-9A26-7E36AE263560.webp_tool_jht9538_light_trap_material_flocking.html/?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&store=420&lsft=BI%3A6879&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=13534612267&gbraid=0AAAAAD7yMh2sLPdnIR5djJzzwaJ2MVSDC&gclid=Cj0KCQiApfjKBhC0ARIsAMiR_IsWEbssv-ZwpFtQKfb3Q4KBGLbk0UxMCwOw6zCb4z1vKg67aKeUZVgaApqTEALw_wcB

Apply to the areas indicated in the attached photos.
 

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Yeah, I called my SA about the HUD frame. He talked to a tech and said there’s no way to remove that frame without removing the dash. I also visited my PPF shop about wrapping the frame in a matte PPF. The installer said the black matte PPF would still show a reflection similar to the gray frame. He recommended a velvet flocking material. There’s plenty of options on Amazon. I’m about to go take some measurements of that frame. I’m debating whether to use 1” & 2” velvet strips, or to cut single piece and fold it over the edges, so that there’s minimal seams. Honestly, the reflection of that frame is so bad I can’t believe Lucid didn’t flock it. That would seem to be HUD engineering 101. The air vent also reflects badly, but it’s not interfering with the HUD view-ability and it doesn’t bother me.

Agreed, not flocking the frame seems like a big oversight. Especially now as they seem to be adding that adhesive strip of flocking like mine has, they have to realize at this point they should have done it.

Something like this could be a good alternative too if you can get a good measurements to cut out a single piece: https://www.amazon.com/Adhesive-Velvet-Contact-Jewelry-Drawer/dp/B07DPSGXQC
 
Here’s a possible solution:

Buy this:
This is the same glare mechanism seen in:
  • Fighter jet HUD hoods
  • Aviation HUDs
  • BMW / Audi / GM HUD complaints
  • Camera viewfinder ghosting
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1364750-REG/japan_hobbyView attachment 35956_tool_jht9538_light_trap_material_flocking.html/?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&store=420&lsft=BI%3A6879&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=13534612267&gbraid=0AAAAAD7yMh2sLPdnIR5djJzzwaJ2MVSDC&gclid=Cj0KCQiApfjKBhC0ARIsAMiR_IsWEbssv-ZwpFtQKfb3Q4KBGLbk0UxMCwOw6zCb4z1vKg67aKeUZVgaApqTEALw_wcB

Apply to the areas indicated in the attached photos.
That won't really help with the reflection of the frame in the window though. That plastic frame outside of the flocking is a problem too.
 

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Here’s a possible solution:

Buy this:
This is the same glare mechanism seen in:
  • Fighter jet HUD hoods
  • Aviation HUDs
  • BMW / Audi / GM HUD complaints
  • Camera viewfinder ghosting
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1364750-REG/japan_hobbyView attachment 35956_tool_jht9538_light_trap_material_flocking.html/?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&store=420&lsft=BI%3A6879&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=13534612267&gbraid=0AAAAAD7yMh2sLPdnIR5djJzzwaJ2MVSDC&gclid=Cj0KCQiApfjKBhC0ARIsAMiR_IsWEbssv-ZwpFtQKfb3Q4KBGLbk0UxMCwOw6zCb4z1vKg67aKeUZVgaApqTEALw_wcB

Apply to the areas indicated in the attached photos.
Did this offer any improvement? For me, the artifact of the top of frame (upward faces surface) is the most annoying thing. I don’t seem to have a problem with the blue bubble as long as my seat is high enough.
 
Here’s a possible solution:

Buy this:
This is the same glare mechanism seen in:
  • Fighter jet HUD hoods
  • Aviation HUDs
  • BMW / Audi / GM HUD complaints
  • Camera viewfinder ghosting
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1364750-REG/japan_hobbyView attachment 35956_tool_jht9538_light_trap_material_flocking.html/?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&store=420&lsft=BI%3A6879&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=13534612267&gbraid=0AAAAAD7yMh2sLPdnIR5djJzzwaJ2MVSDC&gclid=Cj0KCQiApfjKBhC0ARIsAMiR_IsWEbssv-ZwpFtQKfb3Q4KBGLbk0UxMCwOw6zCb4z1vKg67aKeUZVgaApqTEALw_wcB

Apply to the areas indicated in the attached photos.
By the way, your lens looks dirty, like mine. Unfortunately, on mine it’s under the lens where I can’t clean it.
 
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