Why is No One Talking About All of the Improvements to the 2025 GT?!?

It's interesting that AT&T is also the mobile provider for Tesla and they do not seem to have the same connectivity issues that everyone is describing with Lucid. So, is it AT&T?
I suppose it’s possible that Lucid has a more limited bandwidth agreement with AT&T than Tesla. It’s like some of the cheap cellular providers claim that they use the same ‘big boy’ cellular providers like Verizon, AT&T etc, they’re just cheaper. What they don’t tell you is that during periods of heavy cellular traffic, you’re placed at the end of the line with the prime customers of Verizon & AT&T getting first crack at the bandwidth. You then sit there wondering why your connection is so slow in a typically good service area.
 
It's interesting that AT&T is also the mobile provider for Tesla and they do not seem to have the same connectivity issues that everyone is describing with Lucid. So, is it AT&T?
I suspect that the Air has poor antenna design. That could explain many of the unlocking problems as well as poor connectivity.
 
It's interesting that AT&T is also the mobile provider for Tesla and they do not seem to have the same connectivity issues that everyone is describing with Lucid. So, is it AT&T?
Here, specifically, it is AT&T - Tesla owners have similar issues. I used to use them as a phone provider, and had the same issues. I presume the network is just overloaded in general, because it's usually a "lots of signal, no data" situation. I personally use T-Mobile and it's "OK" - don't have those kinds of issues even though it isn't great. Verizon is the only generally "reliable" network around here but I personally don't find it worth the price.

Now, that said - there are a LOT of strategies that can be done to mitigate the need to "wait" for network loading. Live streaming music? Not so much. But pre-cached map data for your area? Absolutely.

It may also be that Tesla is much better and jumping between wifi and cell. Lucid has issues transitioning and again this is something that can be worked on, but even cell phones tend to have a lot of issues getting that "right".
 
The fact that even owners and enthusiasts on this forum do not know the improvements in the 2025 models, shows how poor Lucid is at marketing.
I wouldn’t say many of us didn’t know these so much as we’d never assembled them all in a single list like that.
 
I wouldn’t say many of us didn’t know these so much as we’d never assembled them all in a single list like that.
Nor had Lucid's marketing?
 
re: motor whine - it's also possibly that different people are sensitive to different frequencies. It's possible there is a frequency in the older models that is gone entirely, but the high frequency inverter noise I still hear isn't the one that people are discussing. I've actually also heard people complaining about what I'm pretty sure is the pedestrian warning sound as a motor whine.

re: improved mounts - yes, there was an official list of items given the press & studios and this was on it, along with heat pumps for non-GT, and some of the others.

Things like the revised PureLuxe interior were not on it, though. So those were a surprise.
 
Am I the only one who digs the motor whine? Wife loves it so she nicknamed my car "Jetson" because of it and co-workers also like it when they hear it in the garage at work.
 
Am I the only one who digs the motor whine? Wife loves it so she nicknamed my car "Jetson" because of it and co-workers also like it when they hear it in the garage at work.
I think you're talking about the low speed warning sound, which sounds like a spaceship. This is required by law and not something that's changed in the '25s, as far as I'm aware.

The motor whine is from the front motor when you step on the accelerator. It's sounds like a higher pitched noise that revs up and down as you press/release the accelerator. A bunch of people hate it. I like it, personally.
 
I think you're talking about the low speed warning sound, which sounds like a spaceship. This is required by law and not something that's changed in the '25s, as far as I'm aware.

The motor whine is from the front motor when you step on the accelerator. It's sounds like a higher pitched noise that revs up and down as you press/release the accelerator. A bunch of people hate it. I like it, personally.
Same. The jetson sound outside the car is on Teslas and every other EV by law too.

I *love* the motor whine. I’ve loved it ever since they sampled the 2010 Tesla Roadster’s motor whine for the Batpod: https://www.autoblog.com/news/the-dark-knights-batpod-is-driven-by-the-tesla-roadster

Every time I drive my car, I can’t hear anything but Batman. If only I could change “Hey Lucid” to “Hey Alfred” haha
 
WHY ARE WE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS MORE????

I have posted in several other threads on the Forum about my recent journey from driving a 2018 Tesla Model 3 Performance for the past six years to ordering Lucid Air Grand Touring (including this thread) and rather remarkably, I only learned of some SIGNIFICANT improvements to the Grand Touring starting in the 2025 Model Year AFTER making the decision to buy a 2025 model rather than trying to save some $$ on an earlier model year. Even my wonderful Lucid Rep at my local Studio (Alexxa Irizarry) did not mention the majority of those listed below when I was asking about the differences between a 2025 and 2022 GT. My source for this list can be found between 10:20 and 20:00 here:

Out of Spec Shakedown of 2025 Lucid Grand Touring
  1. Front Motor Mount Changed to add isolation mounts thereby virtually eliminating front motor noise (one thing I really didn't like when test driving a 2024 Touring previously).
  2. New Infotainment System CPU for instantaneous menu switching, screen scrolling and allowing for drag typing. The difference is dramatic. I went back and forth between a car with the earlier CPU and the new one and it is night and day.
  3. New electromagnetic Motor Design that yields a 3% range increase. **Keep in mind that in early 2024, the EPA changed BEV testing requirements resulting in many EV manufacturers having to adjust DOWN the EPA MPGe ratings on their cars** By way of example, the Tesla Model Y Long Range listed range dropped from 330 miles to 310 due to this change. The range for the 2025 Lucid Air Grand Touring actually increased by a few miles -- under the new testing.
  4. revised battery chemistry resulting in a slight increase of storage capacity from 112 kWh to 118 kWh.
  5. Heat Pump replaced old heating system and has resulted in a 7% overall range improvement between -10 degrees C and 5 degrees C and a 5% increase in cold temperature highway driving range between -10 degrees C and 5 degrees C.
  6. Lucid claims an overall "Real World Range Increase" of 9%. #'s 3 through 5 above may be why in another recent video by Out of Spec Reviews, they were actually able to get 510.5 real driving miles of range at 70 MPH when many on this Forum have posted that Lucid's real world ranges were somewhat exaggerated.
  7. A/C Charging efficiency improved by 2% (due to lower energy transfer loss during charging).
  8. DC Fast Charging Speed improved by 15% - 30%.
  9. Continuous Power Performance Improved by 60%. Thermal Management throughout the drivetrain and energy delivery system has resulted in an increase of the Air Touring's ability to deliver sustained power over 30 minutes from 121 kW to 195 kW.
  10. Over 55% improvement in "Thermal Handling Limits" (whatever that means!!).
  11. Drive Unit Static Heating Power has been increased by 50% (I believe that this relates to how quickly you can condition the battery pack).
All of this came as a very pleasant surprise to me as my decision to "financially bite the bullet" and buy the new, 2025 model GT rather than an earlier model year (either used, demo, or 2024 Lucid stock) was based on a much more limited set of facts about the differences in model years. Generally speaking the only things that seem to be routinely spoken of are the snappier Infotainment system and the Heat Pump. Less often spoken of are the revised front motor mounts. Why on earth are we not all "ringing the church bells" over Lucid's ongoing commitment to deliver the most efficient electric drive trains on the planet? Then again, why is Lucid not doing the same? Has anyone seen ANY marketing talking about these 2025 model year changes? I sure haven't!
I have been really happy with my 2025 AGT (metal roof, 19" stock wheels / tires, DDP), relative to criticisms I'd read from earlier model years. It has exceeded my expectations on range, charging speed, resilience to cold weather, cabin comfort (noise, warmth / cold, etc), sound system, infotainment, and more. I've been pleased with the highway assist feature adds, and look forward to more.

I've had one build quality problem which is presently under investigation (when driving somewhere between 75 and 80+ mph, with a strong crosswind, I hear a rattle / knocking noise in the cabin, generally on the front passenger side, sometimes on the front driver side). The infotainment system is fast and responsive, but has needed to be reset more often than I expected due to weird bugs / behavior... not so much that it's driving me crazy, but enough that I probably do it once every week or two.

I've put almost 10,000 miles on the car in three months (mostly very long road trips), and am quite pleased with it.
 
I have been really happy with my 2025 AGT (metal roof, 19" stock wheels / tires, DDP), relative to criticisms I'd read from earlier model years. It has exceeded my expectations on range, charging speed, resilience to cold weather, cabin comfort (noise, warmth / cold, etc), sound system, infotainment, and more. I've been pleased with the highway assist feature adds, and look forward to more.

I've had one build quality problem which is presently under investigation (when driving somewhere between 75 and 80+ mph, with a strong crosswind, I hear a rattle / knocking noise in the cabin, generally on the front passenger side, sometimes on the front driver side). The infotainment system is fast and responsive, but has needed to be reset more often than I expected due to weird bugs / behavior... not so much that it's driving me crazy, but enough that I probably do it once every week or two.

I've put almost 10,000 miles on the car in three months (mostly very long road trips), and am quite pleased with it.
That’s awesome (mostly!) to hear. Wow, 10k miles in 3 months is a lot!! I am leasing mine (it just left the factory today!) and opted for just 10k miles per YEAR! LOL. I hope you continue enjoying and loving your AGT!
 
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