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No. I’m getting between 350 and 400 kilometres. Bull

No way.

In my first 900 miles before the temperature dropped like a rock I averaged 3.8 m/kWh on 19 inch wheels , which equates to 425 miles of range.
Since it has gotten very cold, sometimes down to 0 here already, the worst efficiency I experienced was 2.8 m/kWh which is just over 300 miles of range.
If that is your true range in Km, something is seriously wrong.
 

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No way.

In my first 900 miles before the temperature dropped like a rock I averaged 3.8 m/kWh on 19 inch wheels , which equates to 425 miles of range.
Since it has gotten very cold, sometimes down to 0 here already, the worst efficiency I experienced was 2.8 m/kWh which is just over 300 miles of range.
If that is your true range in Km, something is seriously wrong.
That is the true range. I will be taking it to service dept Monday.
 

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That is the true range. I will be taking it to service dept Monday.
What are the Temps where you are?

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So according to that graph at 68F I should get 118% of range? Seems like the Y axis isn’t correct?
Shrug...

We set out to fully understand the impact temperature has on range, and whether all EV models were impacted equally. To find out, Geotab looked at anonymized data from 5.2 million trips taken by 4,200 EVs representing 102 different make/model/year combinations, and analyzed average vehicle trip efficiency by temperature.



Our analysis showed that:

Most EVs follow a similar temperature range curve, regardless of make or model.
While both cold and hot temperatures impact range, colder climates have a larger impact.
21.5 C (70 F) is the vehicle trip efficiency sweet-spot.
 

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No way.

In my first 900 miles before the temperature dropped like a rock I averaged 3.8 m/kWh on 19 inch wheels , which equates to 425 miles of range.
Since it has gotten very cold, sometimes down to 0 here already, the worst efficiency I experienced was 2.8 m/kWh which is just over 300 miles of range.
If that is your true range in Km, something is seriously wrong.
In very cold weather my range drops to around 280 miles.
 

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Wow I did not expect range to drop so dramatically due to cold temps. I wonder how the Air will fare on a 120mi trip up the snowy mountains.
 

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In the winter with my Model S I would drive 35 miles daily and my vehicle would lose 70 miles giving it 1/2 the estimated range. Unfortunately heating the battery and heating the cabin takes a lot of energy.
 

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Wow I did not expect range to drop so dramatically due to cold temps. I wonder how the Air will fare on a 120mi trip up the snowy mountains.

Lucid will behave like any other EV In cold weather and is expected to show a significant drop in efficiency, by some accounts up to 30-40 percent drop.
In my area we have had temperatures in the 0-20 degree Fahrenheit range for a couple weeks now and my efficiency dropped from 3.8 m/kWh to around 2.8 m/kWh. I suspect when it gets even colder ( in the minus 20 to 10 above range ) it will drop a bit more. With your Pure , when you drive in very cold weather, you may experience ranges in the upper 200s .
I should note that during my cold weather drives, it was in town with lots of stop and go, so on the highway it would probably be a bit better.
120 mile trips should be no problem at all for you.
 

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That is the true range. I will be taking it to service dept Monday.

Please let us know . Your 400 km equates to somewhere around 248 miles, which seems way to low. One thing to consider is whether or not the car has multiple wake ups, preheats, unintended communications with the app / phone/ fob, etc. You probably thought of that , but I figured I would throw it out there.
On my very coldest days here I haven’t had such poor efficiency . I do expect really poor numbers in extremely frigid weather.
 

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Lucid will behave like any other EV In cold weather and is expected to show a significant drop in efficiency, by some accounts up to 30-40 percent drop.
In my area we have had temperatures in the 0-20 degree Fahrenheit range for a couple weeks now and my efficiency dropped from 3.8 m/kWh to around 2.8 m/kWh. I suspect when it gets even colder ( in the minus 20 to 10 above range ) it will drop a bit more. With your Pure , when you drive in very cold weather, you may experience ranges in the upper 200s .
I should note that during my cold weather drives, it was in town with lots of stop and go, so on the highway it would probably be a bit better.
120 mile trips should be no problem at all for you.
Is that 2.8mi/kwh going up a mountain?Sometimes there are accidents too so a 3hr trip could be 6 hrs. I haven't read battery usage during traffic. I'll do that now
 

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Is that 2.8mi/kwh going up a mountain?Sometimes there are accidents too so a 3hr trip could be 6 hrs. I haven't read battery usage during traffic. I'll do that now

That 2.8 is in town driving , and I have a very steep hill before I get to my house that is about 500 feet of elevation gain.
Being stuck in traffic, an EV can hold a charge for a very long time; I don’t recall the specifics but there are studies/ demonstrations out there that illustrate this.
If you are talking about a 120 miles round trip , both going up and back down, you will be fine. If you are just going 120 miles one way, in the Pure, with elevation gain most of the trip, and it’s really chilly, you may want to charge before going back ( others on the forum can correct me if I am way off ).
 

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That 2.8 is in town driving , and I have a very steep hill before I get to my house that is about 500 feet of elevation gain.
Being stuck in traffic, an EV can hold a charge for a very long time; I don’t recall the specifics but there are studies/ demonstrations out there that illustrate this.
If you are talking about a 120 miles round trip , both going up and back down, you will be fine. If you are just going 120 miles one way, in the Pure, with elevation gain most of the trip, and it’s really chilly, you will probably need to charge before going back ( others on the forum can correct me if I am way off ).
Yup it's one way. 40mi mostly flat then a 6000ftv climb
 

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Yup it's one way. 40mi mostly flat then a 6000ftv climb

I would just check to see what your charging options are on that particular trip, for peace of mind. Elevation gain really takes a toll on range. On the way back down, you recover a bunch , but in my experience, not all. Don’t let this dissuade you; it’s just good information to have to be prepared.
I want to emphasize that in normal/ warmer conditions, my car is getting great range. In fact, I have been surprised about how darn close it has been to published m/kWh and I haven’t even broken it in completely. Cold weather, elevation gain and rapid acceleration are the biggest culprits of reduced efficiency.
 

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That is the true range. I will be taking it to service dept Monday.
Is that your mileage from an 80% SoC down to 20% SoC? That seems plausible on 21” wheels with expected losses from phantom drain, heating/cooling, temps, speed, wind and rolling resistance.
If you’re going from 100% SoC to 0% SoC and only seeing that mileage, either you drive like an F1 driver everywhere you go, or something such as alignment is way out of whack.
 

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You don’t have very cold weather in Houston.😉😉
We drove to Dallas this winter and it was around 26 degrees the entire way!

The big problem on that trip was the very inaccurate "miles remaining". The car would say that we have 280 miles left and after driving 50 miles is would say that we have 190 left.
 
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