Tesla supercharging working today?

[borski]

Uh, I asked a question, not made a statement.

But thanks for explaining that the <50kW limit is a constraint that comes from the 500V charger infrastructure mis-match with the higher voltage design of the Lucid.


Maybe it's time for a FAQ that collects all the wisdom about charging at SCs into a compact form.

Sorry for the snap at you; it’s a sore topic just because it’s been covered here a hundred times. It’s probably a good idea to add to the FAQ on lucidupdates.com. @Bobby

 

[GMan]

Wanted to share my first Tesla charging attempt and experience.

TLDR; It went great. Not exactly plug and play but zero complaints and quite honestly, because of many negative posts on this thread, I was expecting a lot worse. It was totally fine for my Tesla charging Use Case - use it in a bind, when on a road trip.

1. I located an Air compatible charging station using the app. Just click on the icon to show charging stations (@AltadenaAir, it's there - get familiar with your app).

2. I pulled in sideways, taking 2 spots , far away from other EVs.

3. I affixed the Lucid adapter to the charging cord, then inserted it into the Air

4. Using the map feature on the app, I located the specific charger I was going to use, showing available/green, and clicked on it. Nothing happened.

I checked the Pilot Panel to confirm it was waiting on me to take action on the app. It did have the message to continue using the app.

Taking too much time, it timed out with the Authentication Error message on the pilot panel.

5. I unplugged and replugged, the Pilot Panel again instructed to complete using the app. This time, instead of referring to the map, I opened the normal Charging screen off the home page of the app. Bingo.

It asked me to confirm I had a Lucid certified device, and then presented me with a pick list of charging stations to select. I did, and it started charging! No need to use my backup Tesla app.

Charging initiated and maintained at 47 kW, SOC was 53% for my test. This is the charging rate I was expecting as this has been widely communicated until Tesla gets their v4 units deployed.

To me, this is huge success. It is relief to know that in a bind, on the road, with a bit of additional time planning, I have a huge network of working charging stations that I can leverage.

 

[lucidtouringman]

 

[HC_79]

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Interesting that you got the cable to reach.

 

[Miami_Lucid_Man]

Interesting that you got the cable to reach.

Yeah was just gonna say the same thing. That’s an ideal situation right there.

 

[hmp10]

Yeah was just gonna say the same thing. That’s an ideal situation right there.

Ideal for the Lucid, perhaps, but not so much for a Tesla should this SC location have been more crowded.

Tesla charge ports are in the left rear of the car, and Teslas have to back into the space to use these short cables. And the cables are not long enough to reach across the back of the car to get to a port on the opposite side from where the charge post is.

That means the Air is occupying a space that would prevent a Tesla from charging in the empty space to the left of the Air, as the Air is using the charge cable the Tesla would have to use in that adjacent space. It is also occupying a space that prevents a Tesla from charging to the right side of the Air, as the charge post immediately to the right of the Air does not have a cable that would reach a backed-in Tesla's charge port. Thus two more spaces are rendered unusable by Teslas while this Air is charging.

This is why people have been saying that, until Tesla installs longer cables, many non-Tesla EVs eat up two spaces to charge one car. (It actually eats up three spaces: the one the Air is in and the two adjacent spaces which have been rendered unusable by a Tesla.) The Gravity charge port placement avoids this issue. The Air doesn't . . . at least at the SC's that place the charge posts at the rear of the parking space.

 

[johnse]

many non-Tesla EVs eat up two spaces to charge one car. (It actually eats up three spaces: the one the Air is in and the two adjacent spaces which have been rendered unusable by a Tesla.)

The situation pictured only uses two spaces. The space to the right is usable by either another Air (parked same way as this Air) or a Tesla using the post normally used by that space. You could actually charge n Air's in a row while only using n+1 spaces...though that is a best-case scenario . Also they were able to pull very close to the charger...not always possible due to curbs.

 

[hmp10]

The situation pictured only uses two spaces. The space to the right is usable by either another Air (parked same way as this Air) or a Tesla using the post normally used by that space.

Yep, I think you're right. I thought there were two spaces to the right of the Air, but now I see there is only one, so the only space being lost to Tesla use is the one to the left of the Air.

 

[hydbob]

Interesting that you got the cable to reach.

No curb stops

 

[DeaneG]

And no bollards. California loves bollards.