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Ordering and Delivery: Lucid Air Grand Touring

bhramabull said:
Folks I have somewhat of a disappointing update -
Took about 3 days to hear back from my DA this time around, after we spoke last about 2 weeks ago. In any case, he had a slightly lengthy conversation with me saying that DAs now are told NOT to give out any timeframes whatsoever since they were rarely meeting them these past couple of months. I found that concerning and told him that that, in all honesty, is a terrible thing to do in my eyes. No updates says to me nobody has a clue about any sort of timeframe and that SOME people with start to cancel and jump ships to other manufacturers. I even told him I had patiently waited 11 months for my Model X before I flipped it to make financial room for a Lucid, and am playing the waiting game again, but that very few people think like me. I suppose all he could say was I shall pass on the message!
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It’s not surprising to be honest. We know Lucid staff read these forums and probably see the reactions and frustrations from people when timeframes are completely unaligned.

I don’t think it’s the smart choice but Lucid has shown when times get tough they go silent rather than over communicate. I feel this decision will just annoy people even further vs if the system is showing 2 weeks tell the customer 4 approach. When no timeframes are given, it sends an instant message of things are bad or management doesn’t know what it’s doing. Is it a parts issue holding things up? A QA issue? Who knows! Staying silent won’t help Lucid in the long run.
 
HC_79 said:
It’s not surprising to be honest. We know Lucid staff read these forums and probably see the reactions and frustrations from people when timeframes are completely unaligned.

I don’t think it’s the smart choice but Lucid has shown when times get tough they go silent rather than over communicate. I feel this decision will just annoy people even further vs if the system is showing 2 weeks tell the customer 4 approach. When no timeframes are given, it sends an instant message of things are bad or management doesn’t know what it’s doing. Is it a parts issue holding things up? A QA issue? Who knows! Staying silent won’t help Lucid in the long run.
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I think staying silent is important until they can get a handle on what's going on during production and make the process more informative and streamlined. I would counter that the vast majority of their customers aren't nearly on top of tracking their delivery as the members of this forum.
 
hydbob said:
I think staying silent is important until they can get a handle on what's going on during production and make the process more informative and streamlined. I would counter that the vast majority of their customers aren't nearly on top of tracking their delivery as the members of this forum.
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Yeah, agreed. The main thing I hope they do though (which they did with me) is try very hard to communicate timing with customers who have a time sensitive delivery window so that they can adjust plans if needed, such as expiring leases, vacation plans, work schedule, etc. Some manufacturers such as Porsche, Audi and Mercedes email with frequent tracking updates once the vehicle has left the factory (I know this because my co-workers RS4 was on that ship that sank, and he stopped getting emails when the ship went down until they confirmed it was lost ☹️). There’s no reason aside from staffing shortages, and perhaps a lack of logistics management that Lucid can’t do this. The logistics management of it in particular appears to be an area they’re struggling at, which in turn means the DAs do not have reliable info to communicate. Another friend had to wait longer for his AMG E53 than I did for my Air GT, but the difference is Mercedes told him why (chip shortage for ADAS camera features), and where his car was at once production was completed (it sat at a port in San Diego for weeks, Lucid doesn’t have that problem cuz no oceanic shipping within the US!).
 
I think it is the corporate concern of the impact on the stock price that is responsible for this policy. To tell customers the truth about the production delays would force them to acknowledge a change in quarterly/annual production before it becomes officially public in the earnings call. We can infer the coming cut based on forum member data that we see here. Since the GT is all they manufacture, any interruptions impact their cash flow projections. They are valuing that above the impact on their customers. Also, to give customers dates and repeatedly miss them upsets customers, particularly ones who have made decisions based on those previously given dates. Lucid needs to balance their corporate concerns against their customers reliance on the information conveyed. Pissed off customers don't come back. Shareholders will always come back if they see improved sales coming in the future. So, saying nothing or being vague about the timing is perceived by Lucid to be better for all parties.
 
Sandvinsd said:
Finally!

455 days after ordering….
220 days since confirming….
73 days after the VIN……

Air-iana has been delivered and made it home and you can update the tracker.

one software reset was required during the delivery process, but she drives like a Dream. Smooth, quiet and powerful.
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Congrats!!! Always happy to see when the wait is over for an active member! Looking forward to all your impressions once you've had time with the car.
 
hydbob said:
I think staying silent is important until they can get a handle on what's going on during production and make the process more informative and streamlined. I would counter that the vast majority of their customers aren't nearly on top of tracking their delivery as the members of this forum.
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Uh…so what’s the correlation between not being a member of this forums and lack of interest in when your comes?
 
whywar said:
I think it is the corporate concern of the impact on the stock price that is responsible for this policy. To tell customers the truth about the production delays would force them to acknowledge a change in quarterly/annual production before it becomes officially public in the earnings call. We can infer the coming cut based on forum member data that we see here. Since the GT is all they manufacture, any interruptions impact their cash flow projections. They are valuing that above the impact on their customers. Also, to give customers dates and repeatedly miss them upsets customers, particularly ones who have made decisions based on those previously given dates. Lucid needs to balance their corporate concerns against their customers reliance on the information conveyed. Pissed off customers don't come back. Shareholders will always come back if they see improved sales coming in the future. So, saying nothing or being vague about the timing is perceived by Lucid to be better for all parties.
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”Corporate “ concerns and “customer“ concerns are ultimately the same thing….no customers, no business, no share value
 
Parachute Adams said:
Uh…so what’s the correlation between not being a member of this forums and lack of interest in when your comes?
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Well, I'd argue that people who join forums such as this one are seeking out more information with regard to their purchase. Those same types of people inherently seek more knowledge and in relation to the car, delivery timeframes, updates, etc. So, because of that then our forum member here skew towards needing to know while non members are not.

Just an observation. I'm no psychologist!
 
I think those on this forum demonstrate keen interest, but that does not necessarily mean those not on this forum do not care just as much.
 
whywar said:
I think it is the corporate concern of the impact on the stock price that is responsible for this policy. To tell customers the truth about the production delays would force them to acknowledge a change in quarterly/annual production before it becomes officially public in the earnings call. We can infer the coming cut based on forum member data that we see here. Since the GT is all they manufacture, any interruptions impact their cash flow projections. They are valuing that above the impact on their customers. Also, to give customers dates and repeatedly miss them upsets customers, particularly ones who have made decisions based on those previously given dates. Lucid needs to balance their corporate concerns against their customers reliance on the information conveyed. Pissed off customers don't come back. Shareholders will always come back if they see improved sales coming in the future. So, saying nothing or being vague about the timing is perceived by Lucid to be better for all parties.
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I agree, you hit the nail on the head. No information is better than negative information. They are hoping their stock price stays high enough before they have to announce 2nd quarter production level because they know the stock will drop like a brick when they do, and they don't want the stock to be too low when it drops. For all you stock investors this a perfect time to short LCID!!
 
Per NASDAQ, the earnings call is estimated to be August 4th, although Lucid has not announced the date yet. So should have Q2 numbers within a month.
 
They’re naive if they think they think they can manage info flow in a way that props up share price. LCID has big enough market cap, daily volume, volatility, etc. to attract institutional players, short sellers, momentum traders, hegre funds, etc. Those people read everything: this forum, twitter, the financial blogs….they have sources inside the company. They are placing their bets accordingly
 
Parachute Adams said:
institutional players, short sellers, momentum traders, hegre funds, etc. Those people read everything: this forum, twitter, the financial blogs….they have sources inside the company.
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Which is why no information is better than negative information. The company is still very young only recently ramped up a lot of positions in HQ and AMP-1, showroom expansion. There are many staff less than 18 months employed in the company. That is strategy to control chaos. Too much information flow can also be elevated chaos. I’m sure they are trying to reach stability while keep employing new blood.
 
DaveyBoyGT said:
I agree, you hit the nail on the head. No information is better than negative information. They are hoping their stock price stays high enough before they have to announce 2nd quarter production level because they know the stock will drop like a brick when they do, and they don't want the stock to be too low when it drops. For all you stock investors this a perfect time to short LCID!!
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Maybe, but it is not a secret that deliveries were stalled in at least May and early June and still are very likely behind the previously announced pace. The stock has rallied from~$16 to ~$20, so reflects optimism even relative to the broader market. Definitely short into strength if your risk appetite can handle it but be sure to have hard stops in place.
 
mnewber1 said:

Please reply with your Confirmation Date, Exterior/Interior Color, and VIN/Delivery dates if you have them to be added to the tracker.


Delays:

OptionIn Production?
Santa Cruz interior✅
Grey exterior color✅
Silver exterior colorDelayed till June/July (via two source)
20" Aero Lite WheelsDelayed till end of year (via one source)
Home Charging StationDelayed till Q3 (via many sources)


User tracker (by color): PERFORMANCE EDITIONS DENOTED WITH (*), VOLUNTARILY MOVED BACK IN QUEUE (**)


Confirmation DateColorInteriorUserVIN AssignmentDelivery Date
January 5, 2022BlackMojave@lawtechMay 10, 2022
March 1, 2022BlackSanta Cruz@BauerApril 30, 2022
March 9, 2022BlackMojave@ddruker
March 9, 2022BlackMojave@LuciPearlJuly 5, 2022
March 15, 2022BlackMojave@BockiusMay 27, 2022
March 29, 2022BlackTahoe@Whatchagot
April 19, 2022BlackSanta Cruz@Pwmac
May 3, 2022BlackTahoe@Andromeda
May 10, 2022BlackMojave@Thinjake
May 20, 2022BlackTahoe@maxwang
June 17, 2022BlackTahoe@zebulondanny


Confirmation DateColorInteriorUserVIN AssignmentDelivery Date
November 2, 2021GreyMojave@beancounterApril 20, 2022
November 2, 2021GreySanta Cruz@RussApril 21, 2022
November 2, 2021GreyTahoe@histalApril 27, 2022
November 16, 2021GreySanta Cruz@GulliverMay 5, 2022
November 16, 2021GreyMojave@CLTGTApril 28, 2022
November 16, 2021GreyMojave@Bruce Browne*May 11, 2022
November 30, 2021GreySanta Cruz@Gavin88May 10, 2022
November 30, 2021GreySanta Cruz@SandvinsdApril 26, 2022July 8, 2022
November 30, 2021GreySanta Cruz@OrangeMay 5, 2022
November 30, 2021GreyTahoe@BalinMay 13, 2022
November 30, 2021GreyTahoe@King510May 10, 2022
November 30, 2021GreyMojave@Smith1959May 13, 2022
December 1, 2021GreyMojave@JimKJune 16, 2022
December 1, 2021GreyMojave@Burydav
December 1, 2021GreyTahoe@LRSIIIJuly 1, 2022
December 1, 2021GreyTahoe@oldnick25June 15, 2022
December 1, 2021GreySanta Cruz@PFM
December 1, 2021GreySanta Cruz@gregvJune 13, 2022
January 5, 2022GreySanta Cruz@MtnSloGuy
January 5, 2022GreySanta Cruz@cplewes
January 5, 2022GreyTahoe@DevTechJuly 11, 2022
February 15, 2022GreySanta Cruz@TCGT
February 28, 2022GreyMojave@EVhou
March 1, 2022GreyTahoe@Wolfman
March 1, 2022GreyMojave@dwhumphrey
March 2, 2022GreySanta Cruz@CaptainLysol
March 2, 2022GreyMojave@Phil
March 9, 2022GreyMojave@Boomer AZ
March 9, 2022GreyMojave@steveairgt
March 23, 2022GreyTahoe@rbbarry
March 23, 2022GreyTahoe@allens
March 29, 2022GreyMojave@Casadeagumar
March 29, 2022GreyMojave@crazzy
March 29, 2022GreyMojave@Minnesota Mike
March 29, 2022GreyMojave@riverstrand
April 1, 2022GreySanta Cruz@Ybor
April 9, 2022GreyMojave@yosh1993
April 11, 2022GreyTahoe@Navy06
April 13, 2022GreyTahoe@Knolly
April 13, 2022GreySanta Cruz@windscar911
April 20, 2022GreySanta Cruz@pravaasi
April 21, 2022GreyTahoe@LucidRider
April 23, 2022GreyTahoe@TonyD
April 29, 2022GreySanta Cruz@Amgz
May 8, 2022GreyTahoe@martinmeyer
May 28, 2022GreyTahoe@Bobby
June 7, 2022GreyMojave@LucidDropkick
June 13, 2022GreyTahoe@skywaterbanjo
June 13, 2022GreyTahoe@SubSailor
June 30, 2022GreyTahoe@fischman
July 5, 2022GreyMojave@sean1doc

Confirmation DateColorInteriorUserVIN AssignmentDelivery Date
December 1, 2021RedSanta Cruz@Matt TannenbaumMay 26, 2022
January 5, 2022RedSanta Cruz@MufastaApril 19, 2022
February 20, 2022RedMojave@Drdon220April 28, 2022
March 1, 2022RedMojave@DJ@SJMay 27, 2022
March 1, 2022RedMojave@hellolucidMay 3, 2022July 14, 2022
March 1, 2022RedSanta Cruz@stevelitchfieldparkJune 16, 2022
March 1, 2022RedSanta Cruz@DaveyBoyGT
March 1, 2022RedTahoe@maractwinJune 16, 2022
March 9, 2022RedTahoe@NPN
March 9, 2022RedTahoe@Dawgly
March 15, 2022RedTahoe@hamidh
March 16, 2022RedTahoe@dmm58075
March 23, 2022RedMojave@whywar
March 23, 2022RedSanta Cruz@niceguy
March 23, 2022RedTahoe@bhramabull
March 23, 2022RedTahoe@SolucidMarch 26, 2022
March 23, 2022RedTahoe@zipcube
March 23, 2022RedMojave@Nyc10069
March 26, 2022RedMojave@Akula
March 26, 2022RedTahoe@electrified
March 29, 2022RedMojave@movieguy
March 29, 2022RedTahoe@SantaRosa
April 9, 2022RedTahoe@Drendino
April 11, 2022RedTahoe@Navy06
April 12, 2022RedTahoe@sicsyman
April 19, 2022RedSanta Cruz@DJL
April 19, 2022RedMojave@Chiquita
May 10, 2022RedSanta Cruz@'Bus Driver
May 13, 2022RedTahoe@EmJayJune 15, 2022
May 17, 2022RedSanta Cruz@extesla
May 19, 2022RedTahoe@EricM
May 28, 2022RedTahoe@nightowl
May 29, 2022RedTahoe@AS10
June 7, 2022RedTahoe@PAbuilt
June 11, 2022RedMojave@Snafu
July 1, 2022RedTahoe@SM_NCarolina


Confirmation DateColorInteriorUserVIN AssignmentDelivery Date
November 2, 2021SilverTahoe@bobofat
November 16, 2021SilverSanta Cruz@FirstEV
November 16, 2021SilverSanta Cruz@OldAg
March 1, 2022SilverSanta Cruz@Ozspeed
March 1, 2022SilverSanta Cruz@petew
March 9, 2022SilverMojave@BradSholl
March 9, 2022SilverMojave@Moupiece
March 29, 2022SilverSanta Cruz@victoryroad
March 30, 2022SilverTahoe@Bel
March 31, 2022SilverTahoe@jfrancis
May 4, 2022SilverMojave@kil0ud*

Confirmation DateColorInteriorUserVIN AssignmentDelivery Date
November 30, 2021WhiteTahoe@momoMay 13, 2022
December 1, 2021WhiteTahoe@GKHoppyMarch 9, 2022
January 5, 2022WhiteMojave@jffryApril 5, 2022
February 18, 2022WhiteSanta Cruz@SunnyMay 31, 2022
March 1, 2022WhiteMojave@darwin67May 3, 2022
March 1, 2022WhiteMojave@JJ_5
March 1, 2022WhiteTahoe@jtbgJune 9, 2022
March 1, 2022WhiteTahoe@BocabobJune 9, 2022
March 8, 2022WhiteSanta Cruz@MkavourasJune 22, 2022
March 23, 2022WhiteMojave@DeaneG
March 29, 2022WhiteMojave@RasmussenJuly 5, 2022
March 31, 2022WhiteMojave@Scott in AZJuly 5, 2022
April 12, 2022WhiteTahoe@Pasquint
April 12, 2022WhiteSanta Cruz@Espan40July 5, 2022
April 12, 2022WhiteSanta Cruz@MiamiAlex
April 16, 2022WhiteSanta Cruz@Car Guy
April 21, 2022WhiteTahoe@Carllock
May 3, 2022WhiteMojave@lucidbalspadu123
May 4, 2022WhiteSanta Cruz@YouAintTheHost
May 6, 2022WhiteSanta Cruz@Zeek
May 30, 2022WhiteMojave@woblingoblin
June 2, 2022WhiteTahoe@mageshJuly 6, 2022
June 9, 2022WhiteSanta Cruz@Compy
June 13, 2022WhiteSanta Cruz@Ksa23
June 15, 2022WhiteSanta Cruz@OutofSpecDave
June 19, 2022WhiteTahoe@Luckyismydog
June 23, 2022WhiteMojavenatebeske
June 23, 2022WhiteTahoe@tigers31
June 30, 2022WhiteSanta Cruz@Lucid-PA-DE-AZ
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March 24,2022 Quantum Grey/Tahoe
 
Sadly for my wife, I sold her car in the end of May anticipating delivery sometime in June. I was "promised" in April I would have my VIN issued before the end of May.
Now she is stuck driving my 13 year old airport truck. She is not a happy camper!
 
Capt1derlich said:
Sadly for my wife, I sold her car in the end of May anticipating delivery sometime in June. I was "promised" in April I would have my VIN issued before the end of May.
Now she is stuck driving my 13 year old airport truck. She is not a happy camper!
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I don’t blame her. Probably mad at you for selling her car too early. My wife would be reminding me of that fact several times a day.
 
At Goose Island having car looked at, tons of cars here
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Tesla2.0 said:
WOW There are a lot of quantum grey…
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yup! Due to that “Grey delay” and it being, with red, the popular color, that is the color that have backlogged. . Any early order of a different color (except silver) has been delivered
 
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