Next update?

[newlucidguy]

Yes, native Pandora and Youtube music would be nice.

native youtube music is so needed. even if they do AA, I really would like to stick to native apps and have YTM available with high quality streaming, I really miss that from my prior car (native). also really want them to split maps and media across the two screens.

 

[momo3605]

And native Apple Music! Which I think is probably easiest since so many OEMs have a native Apple Music app now.

 

[HC_79]

Yes, native Pandora and Youtube music would be nice.

I wish they would release Apple Music so I can dump TiDAL and have Dolby Atmos via Apple. Not like it’s not doable given Rivian etc. run on Android Automotive and have native Apple Music Apps

 

[mikecronis]

Which survey and list are you referring to?

Lucid Updates 2024 Wishlist Survey Results

www.lucidupdates.com

 

[mikecronis]

I wish they would release Apple Music so I can dump TiDAL and have Dolby Atmos via Apple. Not like it’s not doable given Rivian etc. run on Android Automotive and have native Apple Music Apps

So I have Tidal and I don't care for it in any of my cars or at home. Why do you not like it?

A little story based on opinion:

Tidal's sound quality is allegedly 44.1 kHz at 16-bit (CD quality) unless your T-Mobile connection is meh, then it downgrades to 320kbps (MP3). Sometimes you can get 192 kHz at 24-bit which, I believe is DVD-Audio quality (quite nice, I have a few DVD-A discs for my hifi set at home). It's a bit noticeable when you find a track that offers it. The Tidal interface if you select an artist plays the exact same first song every time you start it up, so you have to select the randomize glyph icon to get it to play similar artists in that genre, but you really can't "teach" it. Also, it seems to be pseudo-random as when you hit the randomize glyph, it plays always in-order a playlist it deems "similar". At times, Tidal sounds acceptable but I don't get that jaw-dropping tonality with my home system when I pop-in a DVD-A disc. Even playing Tidal through my home system is.. lacking somehow. It feels like the life was squeezed right out of each track. As we say, wired is always better than streaming/wireless, even in Bluetooth 5. Something is lost, like a Star Trek transporter might lose something.. some mojo. Dunno. Esoteric and phyllisophical at-best.

Apple music is M4A which is defaulted to somewhat low fidelity at 256kbps (less than normal MP3 files). Apple allows playback of FLAC, however, which is good, but not wirelessly as far as I understand, and their earbuds frequency response is a depressing 300Hz to 10kHz. Skull Candy $3 headphones are 20Hz to 20kHz. I have some high-end phones that are 3Hz to 40kHz. In the 1980's, Apple and Roland were the pinnacle of audio quality back "in the day". The Lucid's speakers remind me of Apple's range and I'm not generally used to it. Two tweeters and a sub would solve it pretty nicely.

 

[HC_79]

So I have Tidal and I don't care for it in any of my cars or at home. Why do you not like it?

Because the only reason I pay for it is to get Atmos in the Lucid. I have the Apple One subscription so I’m effectively paying for multiple music services.

 

[mikecronis]

Because the only reason I pay for it is to get Atmos in the Lucid. I have the Apple One subscription so I’m effectively paying for multiple music services.

I guess if you're a fan of progressive rock and need that wizard's space ship to swoop around all quadrophonic like...

 

[Wolfman]

72% of the world's population uses Android phones. Some Android Auto functionality would be peachy.

Well, Android market share is really just above 40% in the U.S. where Lucid is sold (apart from the couple hundred in Europe) and likely even lower amongst Lucid customers…

 

[Wolfman]

Speaking of Europe, Lucid over there still sports the ancient software version 2.2.10 depriving owners of many improvements despite being sold at much higher prices

 

[Bobby]

Some basic features are coming. It's interesting they listed the top 10 in the survey for 2024. Being a SETA (Systems Engineering and Technical Assistance) I know customer needs are always considered but sometimes the vendor might choose a few they deem more important.

You seem to think that the survey/wishlist is something produced by Lucid. It is not. The website you are referring to is independent of Lucid and was generated by owners of the vehicle. It is certainly not their roadmap, although many wish it were.

 

[mikecronis]

You seem to think that the survey/wishlist is something produced by Lucid. It is not. The website you are referring to is independent of Lucid and was generated by owners of the vehicle. It is certainly not their roadmap, although many wish it were.

AH! Thanks! It was on the Lucid OTA website. https://www.lucidupdates.com/ota-updates.html
I didn't realize Lucid wasn't maintaining it! Homer Simpson, "DOH!" Thanks, Bobby!

 

[mikecronis]

Well, Android market share is really just above 40% in the U.S. where Lucid is sold (apart from the couple hundred in Europe) and likely even lower amongst Lucid customers…

Actually you are technically correct!

In my job-sector of space systems design engineering, protection, and orbital analysis, no one almost ever uses Apple, which is interesting; actually, I think there was one guy who just retired had an extra iPhone burner because his granddaughter used it and wanted to relate to her.
In the sector of medical fields, I've noticed Apple seems to be more prevalent. I've only met one other Apple fan in real life in-person aside from going to a doc. Most of my circles prefer flagship Google or flagship Samsung Android OS because you can root and code it easily for the casual hobbyist and build your own Apps, etc.. to your needs. I believe it is possible to get into "Guru-Mode" and get into Apple devices and code it but it requires some fuss. The audio fidelity of the Apple DAC was unsatisfactory when I used an iPhone 14 for a while, but there are clever 3rd party workarounds. Instead of purchasing Lightning Cable fixes, I gifted it to a friend. I mean, some people aren't tone-hounds, or can tell the difference between streaming MP3 and BlueRay-Audio discs just like some people can't tell the difference between 1987 Macallan 30-year scotch and Jim Beam, or Savage Coffee ground with Ode Fellow 2 SSP burrs as a home-pour-over using a Chemex vs. Starbucks Grande (with 3 pumps Pumpkin Spice corn syrup). If you have no ability to sense the difference, why go the extra mile? Apple is definitely an "easier" choice because there is the one option. Some people's senses cannot determine quality or marketed of "perceived quality" or "perceived elitism" as in the case of Tesla's branding, now souring in my opinion over time as some are lemony.

I found Apple products to be minimalist and constricting with little variation. I asked the retired guy why he prefered it and he said it was simple for him to use, and I can understand that.

The war of fruits vs. robots goes on! (LOL)

 

[fisheral]

Looks like we've blown past the update time record. Fingers crossed for something good.

 

[sri]

Looks like we've blown past the update time record. Fingers crossed for something good.

Yes, its been 83 days and this crossed longest OTA and median features interval. Hope we get something solid rather than update for telematics

 

[Buffalo Bob]

Actually you are technically correct!

In my job-sector of space systems design engineering, protection, and orbital analysis, no one almost ever uses Apple, which is interesting; actually, I think there was one guy who just retired had an extra iPhone burner because his granddaughter used it and wanted to relate to her.
In the sector of medical fields, I've noticed Apple seems to be more prevalent. I've only met one other Apple fan in real life in-person aside from going to a doc. Most of my circles prefer flagship Google or flagship Samsung Android OS because you can root and code it easily for the casual hobbyist and build your own Apps, etc.. to your needs. I believe it is possible to get into "Guru-Mode" and get into Apple devices and code it but it requires some fuss. The audio fidelity of the Apple DAC was unsatisfactory when I used an iPhone 14 for a while, but there are clever 3rd party workarounds. Instead of purchasing Lightning Cable fixes, I gifted it to a friend. I mean, some people aren't tone-hounds, or can tell the difference between streaming MP3 and BlueRay-Audio discs just like some people can't tell the difference between 1987 Macallan 30-year scotch and Jim Beam, or Savage Coffee ground with Ode Fellow 2 SSP burrs as a home-pour-over using a Chemex vs. Starbucks Grande (with 3 pumps Pumpkin Spice corn syrup). If you have no ability to sense the difference, why go the extra mile? Apple is definitely an "easier" choice because there is the one option. Some people's senses cannot determine quality or marketed of "perceived quality" or "perceived elitism" as in the case of Tesla's branding, now souring in my opinion over time as some are lemony.

I found Apple products to be minimalist and constricting with little variation. I asked the retired guy why he prefered it and he said it was simple for him to use, and I can understand that.

The war of fruits vs. robots goes on! (LOL)
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I have no doubt that the iOS market share among Lucid owners is considerably higher than the overall US iOS market share. My sense (or nonsense) is that aOS users seem more likely to dig into the instructions, whether the aOS inbuilt manual or the Lucid Owner's Manual. I'm sure I'll be beat about the head and back for putting that second sentence out there!

 

[newlucidguy]

I have no doubt that the iOS market share among Lucid owners is considerably higher than the overall US iOS market share. My sense (or nonsense) is that aOS users seem more likely to dig into the instructions, whether the aOS inbuilt manual or the Lucid Owner's Manual. I'm sure I'll be beat about the head and back for putting that second sentence out there!

Can't speak to the broader user base but pixel 8 pro here. Read the entire manual, every word. Granted, things change and as soon as it's published, it's out of date and needs revision. But, the engineers were asked for things drivers should know and they then took the time to put all that in one place. So, a good thing to read.

 

[idiot900]

I'm just telling myself they're putting the extra time into extra QA for the upcoming software update. Here's hoping it's the most robust release yet...

 

[HC_79]

I'm just telling myself they're putting the extra time into extra QA for the upcoming software update. Here's hoping it's the most robust release yet...

Robust or not, all I know is if Android Auto doesn’t show up in the next update I suspect people will riot! Lol

 

[Sid432]

Robust or not, all I know is if Android Auto doesn’t show up in the next update I suspect people will riot! Lol

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I also know if Gravity info doesn't get released by Feb 7 then also riot will happen

 

[BS8899]

Robust or not, all I know is if Android Auto doesn’t show up in the next update I suspect people will riot! Lol

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Now, let's be clear, Lucid said AA it out of their hands, it is Google' fault!