Gravity Delivery Discussion

[charleyscott]

Additional information from Nick Twork about SA shipments.
Source: "Lucid Gravity - Got Boost?" Facebook group


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Also previously acknowledged by Emad Dlala at 1:13:48 of Out of Spec's marathon HQ visit video: "You're dealing with certain components that we never sourced, and the size. And in this short timeframe, we were able---the team brilliantly, really imaginatively found a way how to still put it in that space. Because ... Gravity was already designed, basically released for production ... when Tesla opened up the [supercharger] network."

 

[borski]

Interestingly -- I don't see Dream Bears on these. Do those get applied at the studio?

Yes.

 

[jered]

Yes.

That explains the alignment issue then. (kidding, kidding; not sure there's an issue anyway)

 

[borski]

That explains the alignment issue then. (kidding, kidding; not sure there's an issue anyway)

They use a template

 

[hmp10]

Yes.

That's interesting. I called my delivery advisor to see if the bear could be a "delete option". He wasn't sure and was going to check somewhere. He apparently didn't know it was as easy as telling the local service center not to put them on. Good news, though.

 

[Steve11ca]

Got a text today telling me I'm about 2 weeks from "factory gate" and delivery about 2 weeks later.

 

[bryway]

Made it to the Lucid Studio in New York yesterday, and finally got to spend a LOT of time with the Gravity. Blown away. Full stop. The interior space is mind-bogglingly vast. Despite being an early build car that has seen a lot of wear and tear, the overall fit and finish was exceptional — at least as compared to my Model X. There was a rip in the Yosemite material in the drivers seat (see pic) but the studio rep said it was caused by a heavier guest (who had a wad of keys in his back pocket) sliding out of the seat.

The studio wasn’t very crowded, and to my surprise, there was a Lucid rep there from Lucid HQ. Said he was there to ask visitors for their impressions of the car. I mentioned I’d been assigned a VIN for my DE, and he really lit up. Congratulated me on being among the first to receive a Gravity (and shed some light on why only 450 Dream Editions are being made — said it is an homage to the maximum achievable range for the GT — something I hadn’t heard before. Said they did same for Air DE; pegged number made to the maximum achievable range).

He also confirmed some other things we’ve all been discussing here: color, wheel size and interior trim make a huge difference in initial priority. Said Aurora Green, Black, Tahoe, 22/23 wheels are top of the heap right now with other configuration combos to dovetail in over the next couple of months.

 

[DrZorro]

Made it to the Lucid Studio in New York yesterday, and finally got to spend a LOT of time with the Gravity. Blown away. Full stop. The interior space is mind-bogglingly vast. Despite being an early build car that has seen a lot of wear and tear, the overall fit and finish was exceptional — at least as compared to my Model X. There was a rip in the Yosemite material in the drivers seat (see pic) but the studio rep said it was caused by a heavier guest (who had a wad of keys in his back pocket) sliding out of the seat.

The studio wasn’t very crowded, and to my surprise, there was a Lucid rep there from Lucid HQ. Said he was there to ask visitors for their impressions of the car. I mentioned I’d been assigned a VIN for my DE, and he really lit up. Congratulated me on being among the first to receive a Gravity (and shed some light on why only 450 Dream Editions are being made — said it is an homage to the maximum achievable range for the GT — something I hadn’t heard before. Said they did same for Air DE; pegged number made to the maximum achievable range).

He also confirmed some other things we’ve all been discussing here: color, wheel size and interior trim make a huge difference in initial priority. Said Aurora Green, Black, Tahoe, 22/23 wheels are top of the heap right now with other configuration combos to dovetail in over the next couple of months.
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This helps reconfirm my choice of Tahoe Leather for my DE... This is more fuel for my personal conspiracy theory that the faux-leathers are actually not as quite durable as real leather (though given the story of what reportedly happened I can't say the Tahoe would have stayed intact either).

 

[hmp10]

There was a rip in the Yosemite material in the drivers seat (see pic) but the studio rep said it was caused by a heavier guest (who had a wad of keys in his back pocket) sliding out of the seat.

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That's worrisome. This is a shot of a passenger-side seat from one of the Yosemite interiors at the NYC studio:

I'm beginning to regret my choice of the Yosemite interior for our Black GDE. I was already a little leery after seeing a video where one of the Lucid designers described the construction of the Purluxe material. She was discussing the layers and mentioned that the top layer was the "color layer", which I took to mean the color doesn't go all the way through.

There was an Air demo in the Miami Brickell showroom for well over a year with the Tahoe leather interior, and I never saw any damage to it. And the Nappa leather in our 3-plus-year-old Air still looks brand new except for developing a bit of patina (a desirable trait for fine leather) on the front seats.

 

[DrZorro]

That's worrisome. This is a shot of a passenger-side seat from one of the Yosemite interiors at the NYC studio:

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I'm beginning to regret my choice of the Yosemite interior for our Black GDE. I was already a little leery after seeing a video where one of the Lucid designers described the construction of the Purluxe material. She was discussing the layers and mentioned that the top layer was the "color layer", which I took to mean the color doesn't go all the way through.

There was an Air demo in the Miami Brickell showroom for well over a year with the Tahoe leather interior, and I never saw any damage to it. And the Nappa leather in our 3-plus-year-old Air still looks brand new except for developing a bit of patina (a desirable trait for fine leather) on the front seats.

If you look closely at the photos, it is concerning that the tears in the purluxe do all seem to all "connect the dots" in the perforation (this is especially apparent in the seat cushion photo where it's very geometric and follows the perforation pattern--not like a random "knife slash")....which makes me question if there's a weakness in the design of the material/perforation pattern.

 

[bryway]

That's worrisome. This is a shot of a passenger-side seat from one of the Yosemite interiors at the NYC studio:

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I'm beginning to regret my choice of the Yosemite interior for our Black GDE. I was already a little leery after seeing a video where one of the Lucid designers described the construction of the Purluxe material. She was discussing the layers and mentioned that the top layer was the "color layer", which I took to mean the color doesn't go all the way through.

There was an Air demo in the Miami Brickell showroom for well over a year with the Tahoe leather interior, and I never saw any damage to it. And the Nappa leather in our 3-plus-year-old Air still looks brand new except for developing a bit of patina (a desirable trait for fine leather) on the front seats.

Didn’t see that other tear (but wasn’t really looking for it either). Agree it’s concerning.

 

[sri]

If you look closely at the photos, it is concerning that the tears in the purluxe do all seem to all "connect the dots" in the perforation (this is especially apparent in the seat cushion photo where it's very geometric and follows the perforation pattern--not like a random "knife slash")....which makes me question if there's a weakness in the design of the material/perforation pattern.

Lets also consider this is a car sitting in the studio for people to see. Anyone getting in is not a owner and not gonna treat it nice. And there may be a mischievous on’s deliberately dragging their buts to test them to and what not. At the same time we cannot 100% say its not durability issue.

 

[DrZorro]

Lets also consider this is a car sitting in the studio for people to see. Anyone getting in is not a owner and not gonna treat it nice. And there may be a mischievous on’s deliberately dragging their buts to test them to and what not. At the same time we cannot 100% say its not durability issue.

I don't disagree with the fact that studio cars are used and abused with high volumes of careless people all day long...That being said, I fear the truth my lie somewhere in the middle. There are lots of people on here with purluxe interiors that do not have any problems...however, there are other threads on here specifically talking about tears in purluxe and I can't help but notice that most (if not all) of them have the same pattern of tears along the dots:

J

Thread 'Anyone else encounter a strange tear in seat upholstery?'

Mar 15, 2024

Hello All,

I've had my lucid air pure for a out 3 months now. I just discovered this tear on my driver's side seat. It's strange in that I do not carry anything sharp in my pockets and have no recollection of anything being caught. It's very cleanly torn along the perforations of the leather. The leather there seems particularly thin and under high tension. Has anyone else encountered a tear of this style and location?

• jgiannini23
• Replies: 69
• Forum: Trim / Fitment

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Also, these cars haven't been in the studios very long. There are demo cars in other dealership brands that gets lots of high-abuse volume and I haven't personally ever noticed any tears in those vehicles. Just my 2 cents. I'm not implying there's an actual "problem" with the material...just that it may not be quite as durable long term as real leather and may require a bit more of a gentle touch by the owner.

 

[sri]

I don't disagree with the fact that studio cars are used and abused with high volumes of careless people all day long...That being said, I fear the truth my lie somewhere in the middle. There are lots of people on here with purluxe interiors that do not have any problems...however, there are other threads on here specifically talking about tears in purluxe and I can't help but notice that most (if not all) of them have the same pattern of tears along the dots:

J

Thread 'Anyone else encounter a strange tear in seat upholstery?'

Mar 15, 2024

Hello All,

I've had my lucid air pure for a out 3 months now. I just discovered this tear on my driver's side seat. It's strange in that I do not carry anything sharp in my pockets and have no recollection of anything being caught. It's very cleanly torn along the perforations of the leather. The leather there seems particularly thin and under high tension. Has anyone else encountered a tear of this style and location?

• jgiannini23
• Replies: 69
• Forum: Trim / Fitment

• 

Also, these cars haven't been in the studios very long. There are demo cars in other dealership brands that gets lots of high-abuse volume and I haven't personally ever noticed any tears in those vehicles. Just my 2 cents. I'm not implying there's an actual "problem" with the material...just that it may not be quite as durable long term as real leather and may require a bit more of a gentle touch by the owner.

Yes, there seem some quality issues too with Air. Not all batches are behaving the same. I hope once we get to higher volumes, this things will get better.

 

[hmp10]

I don't disagree with the fact that studio cars are used and abused with high volumes of careless people all day long...That being said, I fear the truth my lie somewhere in the middle. There are lots of people on here with purluxe interiors that do not have any problems...however, there are other threads on here specifically talking about tears in purluxe and I can't help but notice that most (if not all) of them have the same pattern of tears along the dots:

J

Thread 'Anyone else encounter a strange tear in seat upholstery?'

Mar 15, 2024

Hello All,

I've had my lucid air pure for a out 3 months now. I just discovered this tear on my driver's side seat. It's strange in that I do not carry anything sharp in my pockets and have no recollection of anything being caught. It's very cleanly torn along the perforations of the leather. The leather there seems particularly thin and under high tension. Has anyone else encountered a tear of this style and location?

• jgiannini23
• Replies: 69
• Forum: Trim / Fitment

• 

Also, these cars haven't been in the studios very long. There are demo cars in other dealership brands that gets lots of high-abuse volume and I haven't personally ever noticed any tears in those vehicles. Just my 2 cents. I'm not implying there's an actual "problem" with the material...just that it may not be quite as durable long term as real leather and may require a bit more of a gentle touch by the owner.

I have not seen similar reports of tears in the leather interiors, either on this forum or in cars in showrooms, which presumably would see the same level of use and abuse. There have been some forum complaints about wrinkling or creasing of the leather, but the photos didn't show much that seemed beyond the normal response of real leather to use. As far as I can remember, all the reports of tearing have been with the Purluxe.

I'm not going to change my order of the Yosemite at this late date, but this second tear in a NYC seat does make me uneasy.

 

[037]

Dream has the same torque as GT…

 

[pezpunk]

Dream has the same torque as GT…

i'm fine with the (no doubt software-limited) 155mph. My Plaid could do 210mph and i DID NOT NEED THAT.

 

[Elfin]

Dream has the same torque as GT…

Interesting. Exact opposite of what I expected. I wonder why efficiency is lower since it sounds like gearing is the same.

 

[hmp10]

Dream has the same torque as GT…

In one of the test drive videos it was mentioned that the 909 lb-ft of torque in the GT is only available in Launch Mode, with the torque in Sprint Mode being somewhere around 880 (I forget the exact number.) I wonder if the same is true with the DE?

This also makes we wonder about the range difference in the GT and the DE. Could this be a case similar to what is surmised to be happening with the range penalty in going from the 5-seat to the 7-seat passenger configuration, i.e., the relatively small additional weight of the front motor tips the DE into the next 500-pound tier used by the EPA, thus exaggerating the real range difference?

 

[jered]

Dream has the same torque as GT…

In which Facebook forum is Twork posting these updates and Q&A?