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Hi,
I took delivery of a 22 GT demonstrator in October and live in North Carolina where the weather is relatively mild. Having owned a Tesla MS for 6 years, I know that energy efficiency declines in colder weather but what I'm experiencing with the GT seems extreme. In mostly city driving on the "smooth" setting and 19" brand new fully inflated tires with temps in the low to mid 40s, I'm averaging 1.2 to 1.6 kwh/mile. Is that normal? I appear to be losing as many miles in range as I actually drive. It was bad in the Tesla, but not that bad. Any words of wisdom?
 
Can you go to your car settings (the gear) and tap vehicle, then trip information and take a pic? And then post here so we can see some other numbers?
 
Hi,
I took delivery of a 22 GT demonstrator in October and live in North Carolina where the weather is relatively mild. Having owned a Tesla MS for 6 years, I know that energy efficiency declines in colder weather but what I'm experiencing with the GT seems extreme. In mostly city driving on the "smooth" setting and 19" brand new fully inflated tires with temps in the low to mid 40s, I'm averaging 1.2 to 1.6 kwh/mile. Is that normal? I appear to be losing as many miles in range as I actually drive. It was bad in the Tesla, but not that bad. Any words of wisdom?
Welcome to my world, although not as bad as yours. The only way I can get over 2.5 is doing highway at 65mph.
 
Can you go to your car settings (the gear) and tap vehicle, then trip information and take a pic? And then post here so we can see some other numbers?
Wow, that was fast! Just so you know the 1.65 number is just in the last 11 miles since the last charge. The lower numbers are a better indication of what I've been getting mostly when temps are above 50.
 

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Hi,
I took delivery of a 22 GT demonstrator in October and live in North Carolina where the weather is relatively mild. Having owned a Tesla MS for 6 years, I know that energy efficiency declines in colder weather but what I'm experiencing with the GT seems extreme. In mostly city driving on the "smooth" setting and 19" brand new fully inflated tires with temps in the low to mid 40s, I'm averaging 1.2 to 1.6 kwh/mile. Is that normal? I appear to be losing as many miles in range as I actually drive. It was bad in the Tesla, but not that bad. Any words of wisdom?

That is not normal. In temperatures in the low to mid 40s , I think you should average anywhere from 2.5 to 3.0, in city driving.
 
Wow, that was fast! Just so you know the 1.65 number is just in the last 11 miles since the last charge. The lower numbers are a better indication of what I've been getting mostly when temps are above 50.

That is since last charge, which is not an accurate measurement of m/kWh. I would reset your trip meter and see what kind of numbers you are getting.
 
Did you preheat the car or did it sit while “on” for any amount of time? My since last charge numbers are always bad, compared to my trip miles ( when the car is actually being driven )
 
Did you preheat the car or did it sit while “on” for any amount of time? My since last charge numbers are always bad, compared to my trip miles ( when the car is actually being driven )
No, and I only used the heat to take the chill off the car for about 5 minutes, though I did use one seat heater.
 
No, and I only used the heat to take the chill off the car for about 5 minutes, though I did use one seat heater.

Was it excessive stop and go , with lots of idling?
 
It was in-town so there were stop lights, but nothing to take notice of. This isn't a problem in town because I can charge at home, but it concerns me about what the real range of this car may be in cold weather. At this rate, it won't be much better than my Model S with a 75 kw hour battery!
 
I would not be too worried; I ignore since last charge numbers, as it’s always demoralizing.

For the last month, in temps 0-30, I am averaging 2.7 m/kWh while driving.

Since last charge is much worse, but I disregard it because it accounts for preheating , sitting idle. , etc. Also, in your case, you had just started driving and I suspect your numbers would improve with additional miles.
 
Hi,
I took delivery of a 22 GT demonstrator in October and live in North Carolina where the weather is relatively mild. Having owned a Tesla MS for 6 years, I know that energy efficiency declines in colder weather but what I'm experiencing with the GT seems extreme. In mostly city driving on the "smooth" setting and 19" brand new fully inflated tires with temps in the low to mid 40s, I'm averaging 1.2 to 1.6 kwh/mile. Is that normal? I appear to be losing as many miles in range as I actually drive. It was bad in the Tesla, but not that bad. Any words of wisdom?
I am experiencing a similar issue though not quite as extreme. I have a new 2025 GT with 20" wheels driving in relatively mild winter conditions in the Bay Area, California. This morning I drove 12.3 miles around town and on the freeway, averaging 30 mph on "Smooth" profile and only got only 2.07 miles/kWh. My long-term average over 1,463 miles is 2.90 mi/kWh, which is also well below the stated performance.
 
I am experiencing a similar issue though not quite as extreme. I have a new 2025 GT with 20" wheels driving in relatively mild winter conditions in the Bay Area, California. This morning I drove 12.3 miles around town and on the freeway, averaging 30 mph on "Smooth" profile and only got only 2.07 miles/kWh. My long-term average over 1,463 miles is 2.90 mi/kWh, which is also well below the stated performance.
I also love in the bay area and grew up in the east coast. A harsh bay area winter is more like a mild gentle nj winter. Lol. Walking in the east coast during the winter hurts your face. As to the op, I would also not put much concern on 11 miles since last charge. Statistically its not at all a good representation. One, there isn't a lot of miles to work with since we don't know how the car calculates. Two, it was after a major car activity, charging so I imagine a lot is going on internally. I am barely getting 3m/kwh but if you see the way I drive you would not be surprise. I'm guessing 3.5-3.9 is where most people fall into. I'm compiling my own data on this but will probably take 3-6 months before I'm satisfy with the results. I have to dedicate a week to a specific style of driving to get good numbers. So far my conclusion is my next lucid will need to be a gt instead of touring but like I said I'm aggressive (by bay area standards). My friends back east says I drive like a grandma. *shrug*.
 
Bay Area. 2024 Air Pure base model. ODO = 7,197 miles. Mostly flat commuting 65 miles per day. Charge up to 100% all the time.

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