Ah, that’s not how this works. iOS 16 supports both the old and new Carplay interface. OEMs have to actually do some work to get that newer interface you’re talking about. Technically, that interface also isn’t actually available in iOS itself yet either.
That’s not an issue and Apple isn’t collecting data there in any way I’m guessing you’re suggesting.
Apple needs to be given access to the cars main computer in order to get key data to present onto the screens. Mileage, gas, etc. Not 100% sure if the data Apple reads is recorded by them or not but the few stories I’ve read on it are that car companies may not just freely give access to the main computer in order for an external device to gain access to present live info.
I have heard exactly that from multiple sources, including some Lucid personnel. You might be able to get Sirius, but not through a Satellite connection.
They could make an App that uses the internet connection in the car. It’s a compromise at least for the missing antenna
It’s funny how the worm has turned regarding Apple’s popularity. When I was in my 20’s it was Big Blue (IBM) which dominated and Apple had 3% of the market. No one could have guessed they’d turn it around so thoroughly and would come to dominate (and be hated!).
Right I get that and will mostly be in cell served areas..may well be irrelevant to most of us in the long run
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Apple is trying to make legacy car makers not to bother build their custom seized User Interface. Everyone would just be using Apple CarPlay. Essentially, Apple wants CarPlay to be Microsoft Windows 95 and all auto makers are just PC hardware and Tesla becomes old IBM and will eventually get market revenue shares sucked out by Apple like Microsoft did to IBM. This is why Elon hates Apple and Tesla gets no CarPlay love.
If that's the path of cars, please no
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I’m not sure if there is any hardware on board, but they could take the route that Tesla took: For the Model X and maybe the Model S, there is a combo FM/XM tuner which is located near the antenna. It’s controlled via Ethernet by the car. The audio is via Ethernet . A person with a Model 3, which does not have XM, replaced their tuner with the FM/XM one from a Model X. The audio system then showed XM stations, although the audio was still playing FM.
Alternatively, Apple knows people like their iPhones, and they want to provide their customers with a more personalized experience that gives them access to the data on those phones when they drive.
iTune shop platform has biggest margin (25%+) for just hosting for content makers. Auto makers margin are anorexic thin 6~8%, and have to deal with nonstop competition and headchachs. Tesla is exception at 16% with carved market of its own. Now with every giants entering EV space, landscape has changed. Apple is better off has own unique platform to possible host 3rd party plus-ins than making iCar themselves. I’m sure their biggest share holder Warren Buffett is opponent of entering auto space.
Agreed. Apple is definitely doing something in the car space, but I don’t think that means they will ever actually sell cars. I could more easily see a car service. Think Uber, without drivers. And at a monthly subscription, rather than a cost per ride approach.
It's not new, they already do this on any post-1996 car via the OBD2 connection. All they need to do is provide an API that feeds your phone with the data it's requesting. The big change is displaying what the iPhone gives it on one or more full sized screens without much lag and integrating that into whatever controls the car has on the steering wheel or iDrive.
I know its not new but even with OBD there are some things that are walled off. A prime example is when Apple updated Maps in CarPlay about 2 years ago to include EV routing. To this day, I believe Ford and BMW were the only ones that integrated it. To me, It seems there's reluctance within the industry to give Apple the data it needs so i'm skeptical that the new version of CarPlay is going to be seen in every car in the coming years.
Sounds like the Apple Car is a bit of an on again, off again saga.
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