Yay Hardware upgrade CPU and memory

And as I stated, I drive an Air Grand Touring. You don’t have to believe me, but it does work with the Lectron NACS/CCS adapter and has for at least a month
I saw Lucid listed on the Tesla app but everyone here said it was not active for the Airs yet. I attempted to try my Lectron adapter anyway a few weeks ago but because of the location of my front license plate i could not get close enough to the Tesla supercharger cable due to the curb. I have since removed the license plate and will try the Tesla SC again and report back, probably tomorrow. Thanks for the info!
 
Tone I got from service is it does nothing so why bother =
...kinda like I am putting them out for even asking.

Sorry. I misunderstood the email.
 
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Nice to create a little discussion. Lucid has never been poorly funded. I followed Lucid closely since they were Atieva. Was one of the first to purchase 3 years ago based on promises- have over 80k miles on it. Partnerships with Nvidia...Full Self Driving... Super Surround Sound.. Android Auto..."100s of Software Updates" (90% simply made the car more 'robust')..

I have been the guinea pig here - had to get a whole new battery, steering wheel issues, charging cord wouldn't come out of port, 12v battery bricked in winter, frunk wouldn't close, driver door wouldn't open when inside the car, vents below car motor wouldn't shut off, on and on. Not complaining - I knew I was the early adopter and their service team has been GREAT. As has the car. Super happy to have contributed- it's necessary for start ups to succeed.

But with self driving (finally) and slow loading apps when getting into car, and slow reaction time of doors unlocking and software crashes, and put your hands on the wheel going around a curve because the car isn't going to make it, and very slow into that parking spot because the sensors are about a second too slow... the processing speeds in the original are slow compared to even the original Tesla. Blame that on what you will (chips? Software?) but no one has taken ownership- and this is disingenuous.

Review after review from 2022-2024 claimed the same thing - great car - software, ADAS and UI sucks. These never got a response from Lucid. Not even a 'late in (insert year here)' promise. Now I'm told they have a faster chip available for early owners for $1k. Forgive me for my skepticism.

Hoping for better follow through with new management on tech.
 
I have a '22 Air GT. One of the first built, and it's great.
Cool!

I do recall having to wait an extra 6 months to get delivery, and also at the time there was a global chip shortage.
This was true.

Have always noticed things are a little slow (parking sensors for instance) and the overall UI. Especially versus my first Tesla S P75D version 1 back in 2016.
Okay.

Always thought they put slower yet available chips in there to push deliveries and simply not told us as was their modus operandi, but obviously can't confirm this.
I can. You are incorrect. They put the same CCC in that the vehicle was designed for.

Having to spend an extra $1k for what I should have received at the outset for a $140k car is a little disingenuous in my opinion.
This chip literally did not exist when you bought the car. You received precisely what you paid for. The alternative was to wait 3 years until a newer model was released, which you were welcome to do.

Might still do it- as again I love love love the physical car (build quality, range, looks, performance, reliability and luxury) - but whoever was running the tech back in the day was either grossly incompetent or fraudulent.
Incorrect. Lucid has yet to lie. They may be wrong sometimes, but “grossly incompetent or fraudulent” is quite easy to combat with, oh, I don’t know, the countless awards the Air has won, *in its first year of production* especially.

Peter touted 36 Sensors!!!
It has this. (Though I didn’t count)

- Level 3 capable self driving!!! Not with that original chip apparently.
Says who?

Hope new management team will focus on honesty- say what you will about Elon and RJ - but they're straight shooters.
I have no problem with RJ.

As for Elon, I’ll let you know how straight of a shooter is when he delivers the Roadster. Or perhaps the $40k Cybertruck.

Oh.
 
Cool!


This was true.


Okay.


I can. You are incorrect. They put the same CCC in that the vehicle was designed for.


This chip literally did not exist when you bought the car. You received precisely what you paid for. The alternative was to wait 3 years until a newer model was released, which you were welcome to do.


Incorrect. Lucid has yet to lie. They may be wrong sometimes, but “grossly incompetent or fraudulent” is quite easy to combat with, oh, I don’t know, the countless awards the Air has won, *in its first year of production* especially.


It has this. (Though I didn’t count)


Says who?


I have no problem with RJ.

As for Elon, I’ll let you know how straight of a shooter is when he delivers the Roadster. Or perhaps the $40k Cybertruck.

Oh.
@borski - love your posts and your advocacy.

Will believe you on the CCC chip if you have inside info - but why then so slow versus all other cars? Especially for the initial price? Who made that decision? I am not imagining that the UI is slower and buggier versus even legacy auto manufacturers.

Lying through omission is still lying in my opinion. Again - I'm just talking about the tech here. They've over delivered on everything else.

Great point on Roadster. I stand corrected there! :) This is the classic case of lying through omission - just stop talking about it- nothing to see here....

But do like his pioneering of AutoPilot and self driving. 40k+ US alone deaths per year due to drunk, distracted or drowsy drivers. Imagine if this was zero. Thought Lucid through its early marketing would be on this mission. BYD, Mercedes, Cadillac have seemed to take up 'that mantle' in addition to Tesla, Waymo, Rivian, Nvidea and MobileEye. Lucid has been crickets on this since launch.

Which is OK - no one said they had to pioneers here, but they did when I bought the car, hence the criticism and skepticism.

We're on the same team here- rooting for them- but they need to know honest opinions from their diehard customers.
 
Follow up.... Lucid will likely reap a benefit in the lessee's investment this CPU upgrade when the car is returned from lease term.. It would be nice if they offered this as credit on a new lease--or offered a commensurate discount on buyout if the lessee wants to purchase their Air...
It’s a leased vehicle, just ride out the lease and get a new model when the time comes with all the upgraded processors.

If I tint or PPF my leased vehicle that’s on me, not BoA/Lucid and I would assume the same if I did the CPU upgrade on a leased Air if I had one.
 
@borski - love your posts and your advocacy.
Thanks. I try hard to call a spade a spade.

Will believe you on the CCC chip if you have inside info - but why then so slow versus all other cars? Especially for the initial price? Who made that decision? I am not imagining that the UI is slower and buggier versus even legacy auto manufacturers.
The CCC is not the only thing involved in speed. It doesn’t create bugs, either, though it can contribute to them (by virtue of running out of memory or something).

The initial Air was designed in… 2017? Possibly using a 2015-2016 chip at the time? Between Lucid being brand new at the time (and thus having no leverage to get manufacturers to sell chips to them, as a brand new small scale manufacturer) and the chip shortage during the pandemic, it’s possible they made the decision not to make any additional adjustments and just… launch.

But it’s not like it’s a substandard CCC. It’s just older.

Lying through omission is still lying in my opinion. Again - I'm just talking about the tech here. They've over delivered on everything else.
I’d agree lying by omission is lying, but I don’t think they’ve done that either. They’ve admitted most of their faults. They just haven’t always provided solutions for them.

Great point on Roadster. I stand corrected there! :) This is the classic case of lying through omission - just stop talking about it- nothing to see here....
I was genuinely sad about this. Before he lost his mind and decided to run for President, I really wanted a roadster, and I still want a two-seater roadster to exist - but now I want Lucid or Hyundai to make it. Honestly, I’m just disappointed that Tesla hasn’t innovated in years. And no, the Optimus and RoboTaxi don’t count.

But do like his pioneering of AutoPilot and self driving. 40k+ US alone deaths per year due to drunk, distracted or drowsy drivers. Imagine if this was zero. Thought Lucid through its early marketing would be on this mission. BYD, Mercedes, Cadillac have seemed to take up 'that mantle' in addition to Tesla, Waymo, Rivian, Nvidea and MobileEye. Lucid has been crickets on this since launch.
Lucid has Autopilot, or the equivalent. What it doesn’t have is FSD. I would argue Tesla also doesn’t have FSD in a way that is good enough, as evidenced by them not being Level 3 certified, whereas MB is, for example.

I have no qualms giving credit to Tesla for pioneering the EV revolution and for working on autopilot. I just think they’ve been eclipsed on both, by various companies. And I find that very sad.

But I recognize this is a point on which we’re likely to simply agree to disagree.

(Aside: I think SpaceX and Starlink are both great. Elon shuffling money from SpaceX into his failing xAI and Twitter/X, I find less great; but I digress)

Which is OK - no one said they had to pioneers here, but they did when I bought the car, hence the criticism and skepticism.

We're on the same team here- rooting for them- but they need to know honest opinions from their diehard customers.
I have no problem with any of that, of course. I was just clarifying the facts. :)
 
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I believe Tesla's upgrade also included upgrade to their FSD module and not just infotainment bit, but i could be wrong :)
That's what I paid. It had nothing to do with FSD. I needed it because Tesla built the original MCUs with flash memory that became unreliable. People were essentially given a choice of doing the upgrade or spending close to that amount on an older generation destined to fail. Tesla eventually lowered the price. At some point, they admitted that the flash memory problem was their fault, and they even gave me a partial refund, but even with that I ended up paying more than the current price.

Lucid's will likely do what Tesla's did for me, which is giving better performance. Tesla's also gave me new features that I don't need. Lucid's is priced closer to the cost of a phone upgrade, which a lot of people might get for a similar boost in performance.

I did also get an upgraded board that did have to do with FSD, but that was on a different Tesla. It cost nothing because I paid for FSD. By the time it worked well enough to be worth anything, I was driving a Lucid and no longer have that car. It will supposedly need another upgrade.
 
Not true. I have a 2022 AGT and superchargers work for me with the Lectron adapter. I’ve used it at multiple locations, but again, you’re capped at basically 45-50kW.

(If you don’t believe me, check the Tesla website. It clearly states lucid is now one of the brands open to SC access)
Tesla's website does say that. When they added it, compatible Superchargers started showing up in the Tesla app as available for the Lucid, if the Air was specified. Shortly after that, those Superchargers stopped showing up. That doesn't mean that they wouldn't work and I never tested it personally, but if I put a Gravity in the app, they show up again. If I have an Air and a Gravity in the app, it shows the location, with no indication that it would work only for one but not the other. It would be odd for them to say it on the website, tell an owner on the app that it's compatible, but then say that they meant that only the other non-Tesla listed in the app is compatible.
 
Re the supercharger access, yes one of the confusing things is it has been listed on Tesla’s site for several months now without any access (I’ve tried). So maybe this is something within the last month or so (I haven’t tried that recently).
 
Re the supercharger access, yes one of the confusing things is it has been listed on Tesla’s site for several months now without any access (I’ve tried). So maybe this is something within the last month or so (I haven’t tried that recently).
Hmmm that could be it. I think the ones I’ve used the Lectron adapter at might be open to everyone because of the Magic Dock (even though I didn’t use the dock; I used the adapter)

I’ll have to test in at a site without magic docks and see if the adapter works there 🤔
 
I saw Lucid listed on the Tesla app but everyone here said it was not active for the Airs yet. I attempted to try my Lectron adapter anyway a few weeks ago but because of the location of my front license plate i could not get close enough to the Tesla supercharger cable due to the curb. I have since removed the license plate and will try the Tesla SC again and report back, probably tomorrow. Thanks for the info!
The adapter might have worked for me because the SC locations I used have magic docks too. I need to test it at a non-magic dock site. Maybe they’re not open to the Air yet
 
Has anyone gotten the CCC upgrade and is it worth it?
 
I have a '22 Air GT. One of the first built, and it's great. I do recall having to wait an extra 6 months to get delivery, and also at the time there was a global chip shortage. Have always noticed things are a little slow (parking sensors for instance) and the overall UI. Especially versus my first Tesla S P75D version 1 back in 2016. Always thought they put slower yet available chips in there to push deliveries and simply not told us as was their modus operandi, but obviously can't confirm this. Having to spend an extra $1k for what I should have received at the outset for a $140k car is a little disingenuous in my opinion. Might still do it- as again I love love love the physical car (build quality, range, looks, performance, reliability and luxury) - but whoever was running the tech back in the day was either grossly incompetent or fraudulent. Peter touted 36 Sensors!!! - Level 3 capable self driving!!! Not with that original chip apparently. Hope new management team will focus on honesty- say what you will about Elon and RJ - but they're straight shooters.
Go look at Elon Musk and Tesla first…….hahaha….Peter dishonest? Hahahahah…….really? Peter is one of the nicest persons you can ever meet. And I’ve met him a few times. Very down to earth and an amazing “ real “ engineer. Unfortunately EV market did not pan out the way he expected and of course going through COVID, inflation didn’t help. But he is no way dishonest. I respect him a lot. More than many other CEO’s….
 
@borski - love your posts and your advocacy.

Will believe you on the CCC chip if you have inside info - but why then so slow versus all other cars? Especially for the initial price? Who made that decision? I am not imagining that the UI is slower and buggier versus even legacy auto manufacturers.

Lying through omission is still lying in my opinion. Again - I'm just talking about the tech here. They've over delivered on everything else.

Great point on Roadster. I stand corrected there! :) This is the classic case of lying through omission - just stop talking about it- nothing to see here....

But do like his pioneering of AutoPilot and self driving. 40k+ US alone deaths per year due to drunk, distracted or drowsy drivers. Imagine if this was zero. Thought Lucid through its early marketing would be on this mission. BYD, Mercedes, Cadillac have seemed to take up 'that mantle' in addition to Tesla, Waymo, Rivian, Nvidea and MobileEye. Lucid has been crickets on this since launch.

Which is OK - no one said they had to pioneers here, but they did when I bought the car, hence the criticism and skepticism.

We're on the same team here- rooting for them- but they need to know honest opinions from their diehard customers.
Having unanticipated software issues is not lying or being dishonest. Understand that even Rivian owners have software issues, a lot of them.

It’s the nature of cars now. Tesla has been doing this for a decade more than Lucid….they had many issues initially as well.

This is expected. What do you want Lucid to say….” Hey, buy our cars, we are a new car company, software might be initially buggy”

I would be realistic here. At least they are making great improvements.
 
Has anyone gotten the CCC upgrade and is it worth it?
Snappier interface is not the right sales pitch. I wish LUCID can do better with communication, that thing doesn't take much and is not dependent on 2015-2016 hardware.
 
Has anyone gotten the CCC upgrade and is it worth it?
 
Just trying to figure out if it is worth it for me. I have 13 months left on my lease. Is it worth about $90 per month?
 
Just trying to figure out if it is worth it for me. I have 13 months left on my lease. Is it worth about $90 per month?
If you aren't going to buy the car at the end of the lease I can't see any reason to do the upgrade.
 
I trust Lucid to serve my best interests. The fact that we have received multiple OTAs that have successively improved various functions, sometimes materially, is unique in the industry. The new CCC will improve processing time and that is enough for me, as I expect future OTAs and want to enjoy their full potential. For anyone who has experieiced basically new car models every few years from other manufacturers Lucid is a revelation. I do not expect that major retrofitted parts will be offered as Lucid's technology evolves, but what my '23 AGT has now is great for me in every reasonable respect. (To put the $950 cost of the CCC installation in perspective, an oil change on my 991 Turbo S was like $450.)
 
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