Next update?

[HC_79]

I also know if Gravity info doesn't get released by Feb 7 then also riot will happen

Feb 7th??? SC network opens on Friday! Gravity’s need to be delivered Feb 1st

 

[mikecronis]

Last OTA update: 2.5.4 - 11/28/2024 (minor fixes with lighting)

I suspect the Update is being held-back on account of Google's "work-life-balance" holiday feel-good tummy-rubbing (if you've ever worked there, you know what I mean, with rainbows and puppies and nap-times). Anyway, it's done and they're soaking it with their official Beta Testers "in the field".

I know of a few "Android Beta Program" members that have been using the new AA 13.4 that has Lucid included, though none of them I know own a Lucid car. Some are complaining about the placement of dual-screens of audio and maps being flipped (audio controls are now on the right, initially), however this is switchable from the default in the options.

My bet is Lucid has an OTA update "in the can" ready to go, but just waiting on coordination with Google ABC. My guess is March.

On a side-note, I've had good results using Bluetooth to just have WAZE and Pandora (which somehow impossibly sounds crisper than Tidal despite half the bitrate). Though I don't need it, one could simply use a 1990's to 2010's "cellphone holder" either semi-ghettoally suctioned to the windshield or use any number of cellphone cupholders.
Cartman from South Park singing, "In the ghettoooooo."

 

[Buffalo Bob]

Last OTA update: 2.5.4 - 11/28/2024 (minor fixes with lighting)

I suspect the Update is being held-back on account of Google's "work-life-balance" holiday feel-good tummy-rubbing (if you've ever worked there, you know what I mean, with rainbows and puppies and nap-times). Anyway, it's done and they're soaking it with their official Beta Testers "in the field".

I know of a few "Android Beta Program" members that have been using the new AA 13.4 that has Lucid included, though none of them I know own a Lucid car. Some are complaining about the placement of dual-screens of audio and maps being flipped (audio controls are now on the right, initially), however this is switchable from the default in the options.

My bet is Lucid has an OTA update "in the can" ready to go, but just waiting on coordination with Google ABC. My guess is March.

Plus, it's going to take their entire software team months to rename various places on their maps, and that just moved to the top of the list.

 

[HC_79]

Last OTA update: 2.5.4 - 11/28/2024 (minor fixes with lighting)

I suspect the Update is being held-back on account of Google's "work-life-balance" holiday feel-good tummy-rubbing (if you've ever worked there, you know what I mean, with rainbows and puppies and nap-times). Anyway, it's done and they're soaking it with their official Beta Testers "in the field".

I know of a few "Android Beta Program" members that have been using the new AA 13.4 that has Lucid included, though none of them I know own a Lucid car. Some are complaining about the placement of dual-screens of audio and maps being flipped (audio controls are now on the right, initially), however this is switchable from the default in the options.

My bet is Lucid has an OTA update "in the can" ready to go, but just waiting on coordination with Google ABC. My guess is March.

On a side-note, I've had good results using Bluetooth to just have WAZE and Pandora (which somehow impossibly sounds crisper than Tidal despite half the bitrate). Though I don't need it, one could simply use a 1990's to 2010's "cellphone holder" either semi-ghettoally suctioned to the windshield or use any number of cellphone cupholders.
Cartman from South Park singing, "In the ghettoooooo."

And this here is a prime example of why automakers should focus on their own software vs relying on Google and Apple because they’re beholden to these companies schedules and dictated terms.

 

[fisheral]

Last OTA update: 2.5.4 - 11/28/2024 (minor fixes with lighting)

I suspect the Update is being held-back on account of Google's "work-life-balance" holiday feel-good tummy-rubbing (if you've ever worked there, you know what I mean, with rainbows and puppies and nap-times). Anyway, it's done and they're soaking it with their official Beta Testers "in the field".

I know of a few "Android Beta Program" members that have been using the new AA 13.4 that has Lucid included, though none of them I know own a Lucid car. Some are complaining about the placement of dual-screens of audio and maps being flipped (audio controls are now on the right, initially), however this is switchable from the default in the options.

My bet is Lucid has an OTA update "in the can" ready to go, but just waiting on coordination with Google ABC. My guess is March.

On a side-note, I've had good results using Bluetooth to just have WAZE and Pandora (which somehow impossibly sounds crisper than Tidal despite half the bitrate). Though I don't need it, one could simply use a 1990's to 2010's "cellphone holder" either semi-ghettoally suctioned to the windshield or use any number of cellphone cupholders.
Cartman from South Park singing, "In the ghettoooooo."

I hope they aren't just sitting on an update for several months waiting for AA.

 

[Buffalo Bob]

I hope they aren't just sitting on an update for several months waiting for AA.

If that were the case, we wouldn't have had an update for the last 2.5 years!

 

[mikecronis]

I hope they aren't just sitting on an update for several months waiting for AA.

In my opinion, the car is pretty well settled-out at 2.54 at this point, with only just late Christmas present goodies. I've had zero issues with my DE-P. What kind of issues are people having still?

I've noticed zero bugaboos and gremlins. Car doors not opening are likely due to frequency interference at the 2.4 GHz spectrum which can be solved by adjusting your in-home WiFi channel settings or turning off unnecessary Bluetooth devices nearby.
Though I paired my phone to open the car doors, before I did that, the FOB had a hard time fighting the phone's Bluetooth radio. If others in the household are running Bluetooth transmitters, it can cause some issues I bet. I had this issue initially with my Corvette having the FOB and phone in the same pocket. I switched the FOB to the other pocket and it fixed it permanently. Sometimes I'd forget and have both in the same pocket and the issue un-permanented itself.

I guess, just waiting on AA which will be soon enough.

 

[sri]

In my opinion, the car is pretty well settled-out at 2.54 at this point, with only just late Christmas present goodies. I've had zero issues with my DE-P. What kind of issues are people having still?

I've noticed zero bugaboos and gremlins. Car doors not opening are likely due to frequency interference at the 2.4 GHz spectrum which can be solved by adjusting your in-home WiFi channel settings or turning off unnecessary Bluetooth devices nearby.
Though I paired my phone to open the car doors, before I did that, the FOB had a hard time fighting the phone's Bluetooth radio. If others in the household are running Bluetooth transmitters, it can cause some issues I bet. I had this issue initially with my Corvette having the FOB and phone in the same pocket. I switched the FOB to the other pocket and it fixed it permanently. Sometimes I'd forget and have both in the same pocket and the issue un-permanented itself.

I guess, just waiting on AA which will be soon enough.

Good for you.

There are still issues with cameras and screens going blank and buggy camera when taking car from park for me and couple of owners that posted here. And many more users have issues with camera when curb rash protection is on.

 

[momo3605]

What kind of issues are people having still?

I've noticed zero bugaboos and gremlins.

All access to phone/nav/music/profiles disappears anytime I go for a drive with the keyfob...see screenshot below. Weirdly enough it doesn't happen when i use mobile key lol. Also had a couple instance of backup camera failure a couple of times as well. All of this since 2.5. (I think this has been one of the buggiest updates for me)

 

[mikecronis]

So, I had issues like this after the updates and had to give a good "soft reset" to the whole business and that solved all the issues.
Process took about 10 or 20 minutes to go through its sequence. Have you tried this?

 

[DeaneG]

So, I had issues like this after the updates and had to give a good "soft reset" to the whole business and that solved all the issues.
Process took about 10 or 20 minutes to go through its sequence. Have you tried this?

With 2.5.x, while I had Curb Rash assist turned on, I often had 360 cams failing to load, blinker cams not working, and audio problems with FM and Spotify. Soft reset sometimes fixed this temporarily - other times not. From what I've seen on other social media, many brand-new Air owners have been surprised and disappointed with similar problems, thinking the car would be this way permanently. More experienced owners knew that it was just an issue with the latest OTA.

 

[mikecronis]

I had that problem too, actually, and it was really weird, but after I left and came back about 10 minutes later it righted itself, which is somewhat impressive.
After I had done a soft-reset of all the systems by long-pressing the Air Logo, I never had that problem again with "Curb Rash Assist" on or off, at least not yet.
I do have some door weather stripping coming off, so I bought some GM Weather Stripping sealant (gasp! GM) through Amazon.
Honestly, all these issues are mild compared to my Lotus Elise that went through 4 instrument clusters in the 1 year of ownership, and glue permanently burning my left calf in stopped traffic.
I mean, this car is semi-exotic and the issues to me are expected. Honestly I'm flabbergasted a lot of the original issues were fixed by OTA updates, to include new features (!)

So.. my guess is the bugging-out Curb Rash Assist camera-self-destruct "feature" will be addressed in the next update. Mine hasn't reared its ugly head again after the reboot.

As a fun bonus, I have something rolling like a marble somewhere in the car's inner works upon acceleration and deceleration sometimes but I can't find it; some missing screw perhaps. I'm having a feeling it might be in the rear floor vents and not sure how to access that easily. If I pull on the rear vents, they might just pop-off. Might accidentally destroy the clips. Who knows?

Still, after owning various exotics, this is "happy quirks and bugs" and not catastrophic failure of the likes of Lamborghini and others. I equate this car to those because they're on par for handling and acceleration to, say, the Bugatti Chiron. Let me tell you about the reliability of those vehicles!

I've found Gen-1 cars, Year-1 cars, and anything tasting remotely of "exotic" is gonna have wack-o issues, usually armageddon-flavored. To me, this is nothing.
If you're new to this kind of car ownership, it'd be quite a surprise. It's like dating a supermodel with hangups: it's expected (at least to me). Exotics always have major issues.
Lucid's are the mildest I've ever known. Go buy a Year-1 C8 Corvette and you'll have similar issues on-par. Go buy a Year-1 McLaren and ... hooooo boy.

 

[Bobby]

With 2.5.x, while I had Curb Rash assist turned on, I often had 360 cams failing to load, blinker cams not working, and audio problems with FM and Spotify. Soft reset sometimes fixed this temporarily - other times not. From what I've seen on other social media, many brand-new Air owners have been surprised and disappointed with similar problems, thinking the car would be this way permanently. More experienced owners knew that it was just an issue with the latest OTA.

They are aware of this bug and I'm sure it will be fixed.

 

[Sandvinsd]

In my opinion, the car is pretty well settled-out at 2.54 at this point, with only just late Christmas present goodies. I've had zero issues with my DE-P. What kind of issues are people having still?

Cameras going out. Buggy and very frustrating when they go out since I use them a lot.

 

[Bobby]

Cameras going out. Buggy and very frustrating when they go out since I use them a lot.

2.6.0 seems to fix that as mentioned several times above.

 

[valentino]

And this here is a prime example of why automakers should focus on their own software vs relying on Google and Apple because they’re beholden to these companies schedules and dictated terms.

I disagree as someone who has had 30 years with software development experience. If you ever do testing of software you will see how incredibly time consuming the task is. And anyone who tells you just automate it have never managed that task. You need an army of IT professionals to design tests and everytime you make a software change you have to change those test scripts. And you need people to validate those test scripts. And you need people to validate what you test. Google, Microsoft has that army and they still have difficulty wrangling bugs. So can you imagine lucid taking on that task. Sometimes on the surface you think it's a small software fix but that fix might trigger 100 test scripts to be re-executed and evaluated. Most companies will outsource it because hiring 100 people to do testing is expensive and I can guarantee outsource testing and development will be CRAPTACULAR. I haven't even started discussing the challenges of software development which is 10x more complex than testing.

 

[HC_79]

I disagree as someone who has had 30 years with software development experience. If you ever do testing of software you will see how incredibly time consuming the task is. And anyone who tells you just automate it have never managed that task. You need an army of IT professionals to design tests and everytime you make a software change you have to change those test scripts. And you need people to validate those test scripts. And you need people to validate what you test. Google, Microsoft has that army and they still have difficulty wrangling bugs. So can you imagine lucid taking on that task. Sometimes on the surface you think it's a small software fix but that fix might trigger 100 test scripts to be re-executed and evaluated. Most companies will outsource it because hiring 100 people to do testing is expensive and I can guarantee outsource testing and development will be CRAPTACULAR. I haven't even started discussing the challenges of software development which is 10x more complex than testing.

No one mentioned that software development is easy, but no company should be dependent on another for its software. This is a prime example: Lucid engineers and builds the car, but Google decides whether the car they invested no money in can run AA??? C’mon! People aren’t blaming Google for the holdup; they’re pitching forks at Lucid and Google is okay with this because it’s not their name being dragged through the mud.

What happens if Google or Apple decide they’ve had enough and drop support or development of AA or CarPlay? All those automakers who solely relied on these companies to avoid their software woes are then left high and dry. When something stops working for Google, they have no qualms in dropping it as quickly as they started it.

 

[Blue Lectroid]

No one mentioned that software development is easy, but no company should be dependent on another for its software. This is a prime example: Lucid engineers and builds the car, but Google decides whether the car they invested no money in can run AA??? C’mon! People aren’t blaming Google for the holdup; they’re pitching forks at Lucid and Google is okay with this because it’s not their name being dragged through the mud.

What happens if Google or Apple decide they’ve had enough and drop support or development of AA or CarPlay? All those automakers who solely relied on these companies to avoid their software woes are then left high and dry. When something stops working for Google, they have no qualms in dropping it as quickly as they started it.

Building on your theme here @HC_79, we all have helped cause this mess where so much important in our lives in controlled by just 5 companies (Google, Microsoft, Apple, Meta, Amazon). It’s truly insane just how reliant on these tech giants we are and as u astutely point out, they can change direction leaving customers, companies, governments, all of us high and dry without even giving some kind of mandated notice. And yet all of us faithfully log on, buy and use their products, etc.

I personally prefer using Lucid’s UI as I genuinely abhor CarPlay. I hope they keep developing it! And, yes, I even gladly tolerate the Nav system’s little quirks!

 

[DeaneG]

...What happens if Google or Apple decide they’ve had enough and drop support or development of AA or CarPlay? All those automakers who solely relied on these companies to avoid their software woes are then left high and dry. When something stops working for Google, they have no qualms in dropping it as quickly as they started it.

In developing a large piece of complex software, you are always using software tools and components made by other companies. Part of the decision to use these components is the stability of the vendor, negotiation of a support guarantee, the difficulty of replacing them with something else, etc. Same as sole-sourced hardware components and tools. Despite your best efforts, software and hardware tools and components do reach end of life, and vendors do fail.

Google wouldn't have an automotive OS business without CarPlay and Android Auto. They're not going to let Maps or voice Assistant go either - both of which are huge sources of search information. A car vendor would require a contractually guaranteed support lifetime for these before they'd be considered for use. IMO these long-lived components are different from the retail/consumer month-by-month services they offer.

 

[borski]

Google wouldn't have an automotive OS business without CarPlay and Android Auto. They're not going to let Maps or voice Assistant go either - both of which are huge sources of search information. A car vendor would require a contractually guaranteed support lifetime for these before they'd be considered for use. IMO these long-lived components are different from the retail/consumer month-by-month services they offer.

I don’t disagree with you in general, but I’ll challenge this somewhat - take Alexa as a great example. Amazon absolutely had an SLA for Lucid (one would hope) and other such support contracts; but that doesn’t mean that they have to actually invest in Alexa for Auto and make it better. Whenever Alexa broke, Lucid got blamed, whether it was their fault or not. When Alexa couldn’t answer questions - Lucid got blamed.

And if Amazon doesn’t care? Good luck.

Now, Hey Lucid is also SoundHound as we’ve learned; but at least it’s somewhat home-built in that they can adjust and configure and modify and improve it.

But that is literally SoundHound’s entire business, basically. It isn’t Google or Amazon’s, and I think that at least partially the point.