I don’t like the new sound compared to the old one, but it is worth noting, there was an old one. They didn’t add a sound. They changed the sound.The sound is absurdly annoying and completely unnecessary. Even worse, the sound groups a ton of sounds together under a single setting for ringtone & sounds.
It’s an unintuitive umbrella setting you have to turn down to 0.
Whomever decided to add this truly dropped the ball IMO in every way — but thank god there’s a way to mute it.
THANKS for that tip. It is certainly a testament to the exceptional design of our cars that what we are left to gripe about are the sounds it makes when we tap on a button!If you find them annoying you can adjust the volume all the way down from the Pilot Panel.
Yup. Why this is lumped in with the ringtone is a miss.The sound is absurdly annoying and completely unnecessary. Even worse, the sound groups a ton of sounds together under a single setting for ringtone & sounds.
It’s an unintuitive umbrella setting you have to turn down to 0.
Whomever decided to add this truly dropped the ball IMO in every way — but thank god there’s a way to mute it.
I wonder if Lucid added the annoying noise because "touch screens" are so inhuman.The sound is absurdly annoying and completely unnecessary. Even worse, the sound groups a ton of sounds together under a single setting for ringtone & sounds.
It’s an unintuitive umbrella setting you have to turn down to 0.
Whomever decided to add this truly dropped the ball IMO in every way — but thank god there’s a way to mute it.
There was always a click, and yes, this is precisely why it exists. Same is true for most touchscreens now; phones have haptic feedback to make it feel like you've actuated a switch. Even the new Mac trackpads the last few years? Zero actual travel, no actual clicking. It is a flat piece of glass, that when you apply pressure, 'clicks' via haptic feedback and making the sound.I wonder if Lucid added the annoying noise because "touch screens" are so inhuman.
Were Lucid hoping it would "cure" the issue I have with every touch screen = they don't give any feedback that the screen has been touched, or the "switch" has been activated.
Apple's haptic Trackpads are a marvel. I had the pleasure of meeting one of the engineers on that project (who we figured out might be a distant cousin of mine) and he was very proud to have been a part of that team. And rightfully so. One of the more underrated advances of the past decade or two.There was always a click, and yes, this is precisely why it exists. Same is true for most touchscreens now; phones have haptic feedback to make it feel like you've actuated a switch. Even the new Mac trackpads the last few years? Zero actual travel, no actual clicking. It is a flat piece of glass, that when you apply pressure, 'clicks' via haptic feedback and making the sound.
And, I guarantee you if you tried it, you would be absolutely unable to tell the difference. It is absurdly good. But it then gives you the ability to change the force with which you have to click, and make lots of other adjustments to make your use of it more personalized.
There are benefits to touch-sensitive devices, if done well.
It's really uncanny. I remember taking it apart because I had to see it for myself. Zero moving parts. Flat piece of glass. And even after seeing it myself, 100% of the time I use it my brain is still fooled into thinking it has travelled. Just insane.Apple's haptic Trackpads are a marvel. I had the pleasure of meeting one of the engineers on that project (who we figured out might be a distant cousin of mine) and he was very proud to have been a part of that team. And rightfully so. One of the more underrated advances of the past decade or two.
Your brain really is fooled into thinking the thing is moving.
It feels so ridiculously good that I am convinced Apple is just lying to us, I'd love to see the teardown! It feels EXACTLY like how a real trackpad would, not too weak or strong like most haptics tend to be. I do see it move like half a millimeter though, which I assume is just tolerances.It's really uncanny. I remember taking it apart because I had to see it for myself. Zero moving parts. Flat piece of glass. And even after seeing it myself, 100% of the time I use it my brain is still fooled into thinking it has travelled. Just insane.
The easiest way to see how convincing the effect is is to shut down the laptop or turn off the standalone trackpad if it's a standalone. Then press. Once the power is cut, you can feel the lack of motion instantly.It feels so ridiculously good that I am convinced Apple is just lying to us, I'd love to see the teardown! It feels EXACTLY like how a real trackpad would, not too weak or strong like most haptics tend to be. I do see it move like half a millimeter though, which I assume is just tolerances.
And you can press it with the same strength at the top, it is way easier to maintain(my windows glass trackpad has the frosting peeling already, which is weird since my mac is used more).. AND you can change the strength it takes to click, which is important for some elderly!
I'm confused why this seems so revolutionary when that's how phones have been working for years now?The easiest way to see how convincing the effect is is to shut down the laptop or turn off the standalone trackpad if it's a standalone. Then press. Once the power is cut, you can feel the lack of motion instantly.
Not exactly. Haptic feedback on phones is nice. But this is next level.I'm confused why this seems so revolutionary when that's how phones have been working for years now?
I love Tesla sounds for example, those alarms sound very pleasing. I am with the keep the sound team!But to get back to User Interface sounds: This is one of those areas where there are clearly people who love them and those who hate them. I'm sort of in between. I turn off the sounds on my phone's keyboard, for instance. And all the cutesy sounds on macOS for emptying trash, etc. But I do like leaving them on for Apple TV. And I have mine turned on (but quiet) in the Lucid.
This is an area where a preference for turning them off is the clear solution. No way to make most people happy without the option.
Completely different purpose, as the macs are replacing a mechanical part while phones are just trying to simulate something that doesnt exist(a keyboard for example).I'm confused why this seems so revolutionary when that's how phones have been working for years now?
Not the same. it doesn't just vibrate. It literally feels like it travels; I'm not exaggerating. The phone screen doesn't feel like it moves when you tap it. The trackpad moves, except it doesn't.I'm confused why this seems so revolutionary when that's how phones have been working for years now?
It feels so ridiculously good that I am convinced Apple is just lying to us, I'd love to see the teardown! It feels EXACTLY like how a real trackpad would, not too weak or strong like most haptics tend to be. I do see it move like half a millimeter though, which I assume is just tolerances.
And you can press it with the same strength at the top, it is way easier to maintain(my windows glass trackpad has the frosting peeling already, which is weird since my mac is used more).. AND you can change the strength it takes to click, which is important for some elderly!
These coils of copper wire form powerful electromagnets that push and pull against the steel bar mounted to the underside of the trackpad surface, causing the entire surface to rapidly and shortly buzz, simulating the sound and feel of a click.
Seems super easy, like adding a "stop time" to scheduled charging!...yes, separate volume control for phone ringer would be the obvious easy solution...