Let's talk about the Air's interior compared to competing luxury cars

54 myself. First time EV buyer. I currently drive a 2014 BMW M5 that my wife hates, too loud for her and the DCT can tend to be rough depending on your driving style. She is an all or nothing person on the gas peddle, so to speak, so she gets to feel the power more often than really necessary. I decided to go the opposite direction and get something very quiet, yet with enough power that I should not miss the power of the M5. I also own a 1968 Mustang California Special (original 289, so no real power, maybe 200hp) and a 1973 Mustang Convertible (New fuel injected 347 with over 400hp, so somewhat quick for a 3000 lb, 49 yr old car).
 
54 myself. First time EV buyer. I currently drive a 2014 BMW M5 that my wife hates, too loud for her and the DCT can tend to be rough depending on your driving style. She is an all or nothing person on the gas peddle, so to speak, so she gets to feel the power more often than really necessary. I decided to go the opposite direction and get something very quiet, yet with enough power that I should not miss the power of the M5. I also own a 1968 Mustang California Special (original 289, so no real power, maybe 200hp) and a 1973 Mustang Convertible (New fuel injected 347 with over 400hp, so somewhat quick for a 3000 lb, 49 yr old car).

Please report back to us after your wife drives. I am super curious how and all or nothing would feel to her in the Lucid
 
I think it will be just another car she finds something to complain about, quite honestly. She hated my Superformance Cobra, only rode in it once as a passenger. She hates my M5. She loves her big SUV's(expedition, Navigator, Q7, the huge Infiniti and now her GLS450). My favorite was the Q7 as we got it in their early days when they still offered a V8. Funny enough, she does like the old Mustangs. She will not drive them, but likes to ride in them.

I would say though that she isn't quite "all", but rather, maybe, accelerator on/off.
 
We are both 56. Getting this car will mean I'll have to delay retirement a year or two, but I really like the car.....so we take the good with the bad. I like the funkiness of the Ioniq 5 too. I suspect that car may be a real thorn in the Model 3/Y's side in terms of sales. It's too bad that the dealerships are marking it up (just give us your Federal Tax Credit in advance.....thank you.....) Jerks.
Some good friends of mine your age just got an Ioniq 5 and they absolutely love it. I'm very bullish on Hyundai/Kia moving into the mid-market EV segment and giving Tesla some serious headaches. If you do worry that you're stretching, you should give the Ioniq 5 Limited a serious look as well. It has a number of excellent features (reclining front seats!) and is an overall excellent car, vastly better than the Model 3/Y in almost every way.

If you stick with the Lucid I think you both will be very happy. Looking forward to you taking delivery!
 
I actually went to the focus group for the EQS about 4 years ago. The specs / price proposed were very different (better range/lower price). They didn't have a working Hyperscreen, just a mock up. People generally liked it at the time, but I think what is hurting the implementation is MBs obsession with going over the top with LED accent lights. I've seen videos that they can pulse in reaction to accel/decel ... I think that the quantity and implementation are just too distracting. Plus MB dealers are just charging too crazy of an ADM for a vehicle that is pretty bland looking, has low range and is over priced!!
I had a chance to do the EQS group too but passed. Always wondered what they got to see!

And yes, the interior lighting is garish. My C300 and E400 Wagon both had very nice interior lighting, but the EQS is over the top. When I took the 580 out for a night drive I could not believe how overbearing it was.
 
I also own a 1968 Mustang California Special (original 289, so no real power, maybe 200hp) and a 1973 Mustang Convertible (New fuel injected 347 with over 400hp, so somewhat quick for a 3000 lb, 49 yr old car).
Props for the excellent choice Mustangs. Would love to see pics of the '68 and '73!
 
Some good friends of mine your age just got an Ioniq 5 and they absolutely love it. I'm very bullish on Hyundai/Kia moving into the mid-market EV segment and giving Tesla some serious headaches. If you do worry that you're stretching, you should give the Ioniq 5 Limited a serious look as well. It has a number of excellent features (reclining front seats!) and is an overall excellent car, vastly better than the Model 3/Y in almost every way.

If you stick with the Lucid I think you both will be very happy. Looking forward to you taking delivery!
If you delay retirement by a couple of years, the car will be two years older when you do retire. Is it worth it? Does it make sense to "stretch" when you are approaching retirement? Might something like the Ioniq5 or the Ford Mustang EV make more sense and give you the resources to enjoy your retirement.
 
Ask and ye shall receive.


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If you delay retirement by a couple of years, the car will be two years older when you do retire. Is it worth it? Does it make sense to "stretch" when you are approaching retirement? Might something like the Ioniq5 or the Ford Mustang EV make more sense and give you the resources to enjoy your retirement.
We are strongly considering the Ioniq5 after the whole MSRP madness wears off. Waiting for Limited versions to be readily available and to use it as an "around town" type of car.
 
Some good friends of mine your age just got an Ioniq 5 and they absolutely love it. I'm very bullish on Hyundai/Kia moving into the mid-market EV segment and giving Tesla some serious headaches. If you do worry that you're stretching, you should give the Ioniq 5 Limited a serious look as well. It has a number of excellent features (reclining front seats!) and is an overall excellent car, vastly better than the Model 3/Y in almost every way.

If you stick with the Lucid I think you both will be very happy. Looking forward to you taking delivery!
I did go through the mental exercise of purchasing an Ioniq 5 instead of a Lucid. Where I found myself was that in 3 years time....I'd be happy with the Ioniq 5 but would have felt like I "settled/compromised" for the car. I pictured myself 3 years from now and having the Lucid and just having a big smile on my face because it is a big, beautiful car. And, I realize that 3 years from now, things can be wildly different with the offerings from Lucid....but I really do like the Air's styling a lot and would like to enjoy it now, rather than 3 years from now.

On the gossipy side of things, my boss was talking with me last week and was going to lobby for a promotion for me over the summer. That would lead to a nifty timing where I'm being promoted to a Associated Director level position right around the same time the car comes available to me. Makes the car purchase akin to an "achievement" purchase/reward for the hard work I put in. Just wish I had a 3 car garage or a driveway (our place has no driveway or on-street parking for cars). We'll have the Lucid, a Fiat 124 spider, and (potentially) something akin to the Ioniq 5. A nice "trifecta" of cars.
 

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I did go through the mental exercise of purchasing an Ioniq 5 instead of a Lucid. Where I found myself was that in 3 years time....I'd be happy with the Ioniq 5 but would have felt like I "settled/compromised" for the car. I pictured myself 3 years from now and having the Lucid and just having a big smile on my face because it is a big, beautiful car. And, I realize that 3 years from now, things can be wildly different with the offerings from Lucid....but I really do like the Air's styling a lot and would like to enjoy it now, rather than 3 years from now.

On the gossipy side of things, my boss was talking with me last week and was going to lobby for a promotion for me over the summer. That would lead to a nifty timing where I'm being promoted to a Associated Director level position right around the same time the car comes available to me. Makes the car purchase akin to an "achievement" purchase/reward for the hard work I put in. Just wish I had a 3 car garage or a driveway (our place has no driveway or on-street parking for cars). We'll have the Lucid, a Fiat 124 spider, and (potentially) something akin to the Ioniq 5. A nice "trifecta" of cars.
Reward yourself with a new house also!
 
Thanks. The '68 is very close to original. One small nick in one of the stripes. The biggest wear and tear item are the lower door interior panels as the seat belts can hit them if you aren't careful and just let them go to retract. Other than that, it does have an aftermarket center console with newer radio and speakers. The space for the original radio has an insert with three gauges. It really would not take much to remove the gauges and center console and put an original radio back in. I actually have one sitting on a shelf. The '73 is a different story.

The '73 was completely restored over the last couple years, new engine, new transmission, new fuel delivery (tank, EFI, pump) new brakes (entire system), new exhaust, new front suspension, new wheels/tires, new paint, new interior, new bumpers (converted '73 front bumper to '71 bumper), new headlights, new taillights, all rust remediation... Only thing I did not replace that I really probably should have was the glass. It is still original and in good shape for 49 yr old glass.
 
I initially commented on a post comparing the Air to the EQS and noticed the distaste for the EQS' interior over the Lucid's simple interior. I would like to just repost that comment in this post since this aspect of the Air has been bugging me quite a bit. Essentially, I find that for how much the Lucid Air costs and the segment it is competing in the interior just does not cut it. Sure most of the materials are good but the visual aspect and experience isn't exactly there. Doug DeMuro did briefly comment on this stating that the Air definitely isn't as luxurious on the inside as its german competitors and I absolutely agree. I have personally sat in one for a good amount as well wondering if they just took the base model's interior and copied it to every trim. It felt like I was in a $70-80,000 car rather than a six figure car and this was the same price that my friends had in mind until I told them it was above $100,000. At that point, they were shocked since it didn't seem exciting to them from a visual standpoint. To put it best I am a fan of interiors in Bentleys, Mercedes S class, and the EQS. The Air is just overly simplistic for the money and I can't forgive how many promised features have been stripped without a drop in price especially standard luxury features such as powered doors and air suspension. Anyway, I will leave my comment from the other thread below and would like to know if I am alone on this or what you all think.

I'm very surprised that the Lucid's simplistic interior is being accepted over the EQS' interior. I'm personally finding it very hard to confirm my Grand Touring reservation due to the interior as I do not see how it is worth it for the money. The EQS offers much more for less in terms of interior technology and quality/looks. I believe it could be due to the target audience? The Lucid seems to appeal to an older audience hence why I think the EQS' hyper-screen and modern fashion sense is not appreciated by the Lucid audience. The quilted leather for instance is something I really like and many of my leather jackets from Boda Skins that I wear for example are quilted giving a modern twist to the classic leather biker jacket. I receive immense compliments for this quilted style of jackets with many people telling me how much they love the quilted design so this hate for quilted leather in a vehicle seemed strange to me. I have always found this beautiful and the seats of the Air appear overly bland to me especially for the money and many others I've shown them to have been unimpressed. Also, I appreciate the ambient lighting in the EQS and if one does find it distasteful why not disable them? Again, I truly am amazed by the reaction to the EQS' interior. I've noticed that the younger reviewers <40 tend to appreciate it. In fact, Kyle from Out of Spec Reviews really loves it despite the hideous exterior of the EQS. Doug DeMuro really likes the EQS' interior as well while stating that the Air definitely doesn't meet German rivals' level of luxury. I am personally a fan of the EQS' interior being a buyer at 21. I'm likely going to skip the Air and I may wait for the next EV that can offer great performance, a nice exterior, and a "gaudy" interior ;). In my eyes the Air's interior just took many bits from Tesla and the Porsche Taycan and combined them for something very underwhelming. The "cockpit display" is obviously copied from the Taycan while the overall simplicity mimics a Tesla which is what I wished to avoid with Teslas in the first place (alongside their quality issues of course). With all of this being said Lucid will continue to grow and change. I am sure this company's future is going to be great despite some hurdles. Despite this, I don't see myself being in one with the overly simplistic design choices and promised features that never made it and am probably canceling my order soon. I don't think range and performance is enough to justify the money although I really do want impressive performance in a car. I also don't really like the alcantara. Give me the option of leather and a full white or light colored interior instead of forcing black front seats and a black steering wheel. For me personally, if the Lucid Air Grand Touring had the EQS' interior that'd be the perfect car (alongside better paint options because the current ones definitely aren't that great). I think what they did was they played it safe by making the interior simple, probably did it to cut on costs, or it just made their job easier. Perhaps they truly think a six figure luxury sedan should look like an $70-80k from the inside. I don't like it and it does look like the base interior was just copied to all the trims. The best thing they could do is give buyers the ability to choose what they want like many of the established brands. Also, a side note but what's up with the cheap pedals especially in the $170k dream edition? Not only that but the cheap plastic door trigger that you'll be using for the lifetime of the car. So much for attention to detail. :(

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Wife and I are in our late 60's. Purchased a new MB S Class in 2015 and that is our current vehicle. We love MB luxury, we love a big sedan. Decided to go EV about 2 years and rejected the Audi e-tron and Jaguar I-Pace. Did not get them because we felt range was too limiting and interior just a bit too cozy. We reserved both a Lucid GT and a Mercedes EQS with the intent of making a decision prior to one of the companies calling to place an order. Took us a few weeks to recognize we like them both...almost equally. We decided on the Lucid Air GT.

Everyone has their criteria when deciding on any vehicle purchase. Our primary drivers favoring the Air were:
- Air has bi-directional changing, EQS does not. Having lived through the Texas freeze and power outage last year we went solar with battery backup. The Air provides a huge storage system, and unlike the batteries in our garage the batteries in the Air can also be used to drive a vehicle.
- Air exterior is so much more beautiful to us. The egg like shape of the EQS...well...it is functional!
- The range of the Air is far preferable for a retired couple who enjoy day trips as well as long vacation drives.

On the flip side the primary reasons for us choosing the EQS were:
- The far superior luxury interior. It is an S Class. But we can live without the glitz of the hyper screen and all the interior lighting. We grew to appreciate the rather simple beauty of the Air interior.
- MB is a legacy company that we feel confident will outlive us. Lucid? Who knows. The nearest MB service center is 10 miles away, the nearest Lucid service center is 270 miles (yes, I know they do mobile service as well). There is just more peace of mind with MB.

There are many other differences we discussed in our decision making process, but the above subjects were the key drivers of our final decision.

Last week our Air GT reservation became an order. We did not cancel our EQS reservation because...well...Lucid is a new company and they are both really nice vehicles. Years after taking delivery I think both Air buyers and EQS buyers will decide....yes, we made the right choice.
 
Wife and I are in our late 60's. Purchased a new MB S Class in 2015 and that is our current vehicle. We love MB luxury, we love a big sedan. Decided to go EV about 2 years and rejected the Audi e-tron and Jaguar I-Pace. Did not get them because we felt range was too limiting and interior just a bit too cozy. We reserved both a Lucid GT and a Mercedes EQS with the intent of making a decision prior to one of the companies calling to place an order. Took us a few weeks to recognize we like them both...almost equally. We decided on the Lucid Air GT.

Everyone has their criteria when deciding on any vehicle purchase. Our primary drivers favoring the Air were:
- Air has bi-directional changing, EQS does not. Having lived through the Texas freeze and power outage last year we went solar with battery backup. The Air provides a huge storage system, and unlike the batteries in our garage the batteries in the Air can also be used to drive a vehicle.
- Air exterior is so much more beautiful to us. The egg like shape of the EQS...well...it is functional!
- The range of the Air is far preferable for a retired couple who enjoy day trips as well as long vacation drives.

On the flip side the primary reasons for us choosing the EQS were:
- The far superior luxury interior. It is an S Class. But we can live without the glitz of the hyper screen and all the interior lighting. We grew to appreciate the rather simple beauty of the Air interior.
- MB is a legacy company that we feel confident will outlive us. Lucid? Who knows. The nearest MB service center is 10 miles away, the nearest Lucid service center is 270 miles (yes, I know they do mobile service as well). There is just more peace of mind with MB.

There are many other differences we discussed in our decision making process, but the above subjects were the key drivers of our final decision.

Last week our Air GT reservation became an order. We did not cancel our EQS reservation because...well...Lucid is a new company and they are both really nice vehicles. Years after taking delivery I think both Air buyers and EQS buyers will decide....yes, we made the right choice.
We're you able to test drive both already before you confirmed your order with Lucid?
 
We're you able to test drive both already before you confirmed your order with Lucid?
We did drive the EQS, have not driven or sat in the Air. About two years we did drive the e-Tron and I-Pace (and a Model S about 3 years ago when the Raven change occurred) and those test drives were of little value because with all the reviews on YouTube and in print I learned absolutely nothing new in those test drives. However, at 6'4" and 290 lbs. my concern is always ingress/egress. So that is a concern for me having never sat in an Air. To mitigate I asked Lucid to provide me with all the measurements in regard to ingress/egress and compared them to my current S Class and to the EQS. Always have to be careful with those numbers since they are manufacturer provided, but it's a chance I'm willing to take. If I don't like it, I can sell the Air.

Oh, back to the test drive, in my younger days I loved a test drive to evaluate acceleration, braking, handling. At 68 and with a wife whose motion sickness tolerance requires me to do a 120-180 degree turn at no more than 3 MPH...I have no need to evaluate acceleration, braking and handling. These days all a test drive would tell us is....did you feel that bump...how about that bump...etc.
 
We did drive the EQS, have not driven or sat in the Air. About two years we did drive the e-Tron and I-Pace (and a Model S about 3 years ago when the Raven change occurred) and those test drives were of little value because with all the reviews on YouTube and in print I learned absolutely nothing new in those test drives. However, at 6'4" and 290 lbs. my concern is always ingress/egress. So that is a concern for me having never sat in an Air. To mitigate I asked Lucid to provide me with all the measurements in regard to ingress/egress and compared them to my current S Class and to the EQS. Always have to be careful with those numbers since they are manufacturer provided, but it's a chance I'm willing to take. If I don't like it, I can sell the Air.

Oh, back to the test drive, in my younger days I loved a test drive to evaluate acceleration, braking, handling. At 68 and with a wife whose motion sickness tolerance requires me to do a 120-180 degree turn at no more than 3 MPH...I have no need to evaluate acceleration, braking and handling. These days all a test drive would tell us is....did you feel that bump...how about that bump...etc.
I’m a lot younger but similar build (6’3” 230lbs) and can say the ingress/egress of the air is tighter than the EQS, but vastly better than the e-Tron GT and Taycan. You should be fine but I would check it in person.

For the ride quality I found the EQS to be inferior to the Air on 19” wheels. The Mercedes was just too floaty and could not manage the weight effectively, coming off as a worse S-class. The Air is supremely well sorted on the smaller wheels.
 
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