What topic are you most interested in for our next AMA?

[marqie]

Thanks everyone who participated in our Lucid Audio Experience AMA on March 11:

Thread 'Lucid Audio Experience AMA (March 11, 2025)'

Mar 11, 2025

Hi, everyone.

The “Ask Me Anything” with the Lucid Audio team is now in session. I am here with Bob Windel, Technical Fellow and Audio Tuning Engineer; and Colin Mosgrove, Audio Product Manager.

For the next two hours, we will be answering your questions regarding audio tuning in your Lucid vehicle, specifically Surreal Sound and Surreal Sound Pro. Many of our owners admitted audiophiles, so we are also hoping to have a fun discussion about music in general and what your go-to playlists are.

We are looking forward to the conversation!

Marqie

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It was a great experience for the team. We appreciated all your questions and learned a lot about what's on your mind regarding Lucid audio.

We are already looking to host our next one and would love to hear which topics you're most interested in. We'd also appreciate any feedback you have regarding the last one.

 

[illopp00]

Curious to how route planning with Tesla Superchargers is being handled?

 

[Bobby]

Without knowing elevation changes and expected speeds this would be very inaccurate. On my trip to the ski hill the first 250 miles eat range at 25% greater than actual miles (325 miles range used to travel 250 miles) the last 5 miles (actual) uses 15 - 20 miles of range. If I use the navigation it is fairly accurate over the whole trip.
Without knowing I'm gaining and parking 1250 feet above where I'm traveling a range estimate will be off significantly.

Likewise the first half of the trip is on the interstate where range usage is about 30% greater than actual. Second half of the trip is secondary roads (40 - 50 mph) where range usage is only 15% greater than actual.

Using recent efficiency as a metric would be far more reliable than EPA.

 

[terrycs]

Sentry / security mode would be nice. I would think a valet mode would be easy to implement?

 

[Pragmatic]

What difference does it make if it's wrong by EPA or wrong by recent efficiency? It's still wrong and not real useful. Lucid gave a fairly accurate range estimate (in the navigation). I don't normally use any navigation, but when range is important I use the navigation to see if I need to charge before reaching my destination.

 

[segbrk]

What difference does it make if it's wrong by EPA or wrong by recent efficiency? It's still wrong and not real useful. Lucid gave a fairly accurate range estimate (in the navigation). I don't normally use any navigation, but when range is important I use the navigation to see if I need to charge before reaching my destination.

When I'm driving a long distance on freeways, I usually use Waze via CarPlay. In other (ICE) cars, I occasionally compare the range estimate in the dashboard against the distance remaining in Waze to see if or how soon I need to make a gas stop. In a perfect world where everything was integrated I wouldn't need to do this, as my nav (via CarPlay) would have input from the car to suggest charging stops automatically. In this world, a number on the dashboard based on a rolling average efficiency would go a long way and seems like a relatively simple thing to add.

 

[Kaycee1980]

1. Infotainment updates
2. Dashcam/ Sentry mode
3. Android auto or using Google maps

 

[Bobby]

What difference does it make if it's wrong by EPA or wrong by recent efficiency? It's still wrong and not real useful. Lucid gave a fairly accurate range estimate (in the navigation). I don't normally use any navigation, but when range is important I use the navigation to see if I need to charge before reaching my destination.

After 35,000 miles, I can say that it makes a huge difference. Generally speaking, the efficiency in the last 10 to 20 miles driven is a good predictor for the next 10 to 20 miles. There are, of course, edge cases where this would not be true. EPA rated efficiency has absolutely nothing to do with my driving habits. Real world example: my lifetime efficiency in the vehicle is 3.0m/kw. EPA is over 4. That is a huge delta. If I am taking a road trip, I will feather the throttle and be more gentle so I can increase range. The car’s mileage remaining would adapt to that by using efficiency over the recent mileage to predict the future. If I drive like an idiot, I can get the car down to less than 2 mi./kWh but it will still predict miles remaining based on EPA. That makes no sense. That’s why most of us have changed the display to show percent and then do some multiplication in our heads to figure out remaining miles. I’d rather the car do the multiplication for me, as did my other EV and my current PHEV.

Your solution of using native navigation to better predict does not work for me since I use CarPlay navigation exclusively.

 

[Pragmatic]

Well Lucid has provided a solution (native navagation) you just choose not to use it. It's rare I need to know range. When I do I make use of navigation. Otherwise I just drive.

 

[borski]

For it being a common feature, I think comparing this car to any car within a similar price point is fair to do - even more when looking at entry level cars.

This is not correct; people think this because it seems true when you’re upset, but it isn’t. When people make this comparison to other and/or less expensive cars, they *discount*, by definition, all of the things the Lucid does that the other car doesn’t, and vice-versa.

The right vehicle for you is about having the right set of things for your needs and desires, not being a superset of all possible things a vehicle could ever be or every feature a vehicle could ever have.

That’s why the comparison is irrelevant; whatever car you compare it to likely doesn’t have a dozen things the Air does, and vice-versa. Because time and money is a limited resource, cars are designed differently, with different feature sets.

I don’t mean that to be flippant; really. It’s just not a valid comparison, and is the definition of cherry picking, but people don’t seem to want to see that when they have a bone to pick.

 

[scal_air]

"Hello, Borski's Doughnuts?
I'll take two scones .... What do you mean you don't have scones??!! I just bought two from Starbucks yesterday"
Sorry inside joke

 

[Bobby]

Well Lucid has provided a solution (native navagation) you just choose not to use it. It's rare I need to know range. When I do I make use of navigation. Otherwise I just drive.

Range is extremely important to me and the singular most important reason I bought this car. I do a lot of driving and use CarPlay to navigate.

The car displays remaining range in miles. This range is completely incorrect. They should find a way to make it more correct. Literally every other car I own, gas, EV, and PHEV properly does this.

 

[SaaSManKS]

I think a good topic would be the current/future roll out of service centers, the current approach, what are seen as struggles from corp POV, and when lucid sees the inflection point will be

 

[MacBain00]

This is not correct; people think this because it seems true when you’re upset, but it isn’t. When people make this comparison to other and/or less expensive cars, they *discount*, by definition, all of the things the Lucid does that the other car doesn’t, and vice-versa.

The right vehicle for you is about having the right set of things for your needs and desires, not being a superset of all possible things a vehicle could ever be or every feature a vehicle could ever have.

That’s why the comparison is irrelevant; whatever car you compare it to likely doesn’t have a dozen things the Air does, and vice-versa. Because time and money is a limited resource, cars are designed differently, with different feature sets.

I don’t mean that to be flippant; really. It’s just not a valid comparison, and is the definition of cherry picking, but people don’t seem to want to see that when they have a bone to pick.

I guess we'll agree to disagree on this point.

While in most cases I do believe you're right and it's not fair to take what car brand X does against car brand Y, I do believe you can identify common feature sets (or trending towards) and say that certain features should be present across multiple price points assuming same category - luxury cars, economy cars, sports/driving cars, ultra-high end cars, etc.

LKA (or versions of) exist in almost every car major brand at almost all price points for the last 2-3 years. I would go to say at this point LKA is a 'standard' available feature with cars leveraging cameras and electric power steering. While it's not a deal breaker item on my buy a car bucket list, it is a feature I would have expected on a Lucid at this price point in this category.

Separate comment all together, sales pushed me away from paying extra for DD Pro since it didn't have many of the FSD features that most people were expecting. It wasn't worth to future proof the car since no one could answer when the feature sets would be released.

 

[boydracing]

When I'm driving a long distance on freeways, I usually use Waze via CarPlay. In other (ICE) cars, I occasionally compare the range estimate in the dashboard against the distance remaining in Waze to see if or how soon I need to make a gas stop. In a perfect world where everything was integrated I wouldn't need to do this, as my nav (via CarPlay) would have input from the car to suggest charging stops automatically. In this world, a number on the dashboard based on a rolling average efficiency would go a long way and seems like a relatively simple thing to add.

This would be ideal. Using EPA sounds like a place-card holder until a better system is devised. Above sounds just about perfect.