Range Questions after first trip

[borski]

I wholeheartedly agree. It’s occasionally fun to try and max out efficiency and it’s also fun to not give a shit about efficiency.

I take two kinds of trips:
1) aiming for maximum efficiency
2) aiming for minimum efficiency

There’s rarely an in-between.

 

[Blue Lectroid]

I take two kinds of trips:
1) aiming for maximum efficiency
2) aiming for minimum efficiency

There’s rarely an in-between.

100%!!!

That’s soooo funny, because that’s exactly the way I approach it! Drive it like you stole it, OR go for maximum range. I’d say I’m roughly 30 / 70 on the Stole / Range Air Scale (“SRAS”).

Where do others fall?

 

[rezar]

I am a new Lucid Air Touring owner. I have previously owned 3 Tesla's (Model X, Model S x 2).

Yesterday I went on my first work trip. Car was charged to 370 miles. When I arrived at my destination, I had gone 182 miles and had 71 miles of range left. I had 117 miles of range evaporate.

Temp was in the 30's, average speed 75-78 MPH, 20" wheels, 2.5 software update.

Is this normal? Is there a good rule of thumb to hedge? I have experienced range degradation previously but not at this level.

Also, this was my first time charging at Electrify America. My car was telling me that a stall was available but there wasn't. Is that common? Also, this may be a stupid question, but at a different charging station there was a charger with two plugin cords. If one cord is being utilized, is the other disabled? Finally, I went to two different 350kW chargers yesterday and the max I got was 201kW- is that normal?

Also, in DreamDrive Pro mode, I rarely was able to utilize the auto lane change on a major interstate. The display would show the dotted center line- as soon as I put the blinker on, the center line would change to solid.

Trying to adjust to the switch from the Tesla ecosystem- any suggestions or insights would be greatly appreciated!

Hi, I’m also new Lucid owner. As for mileage I also get a lot less than what it should be. Maybe out of 514 mile charge I get probably a little less than 400. I’ve been in contact with Lucid customer care as when we will be able to charge anywhere, as of two weeks ago I was told they are sure yet.

 

[Knucklehead]

Hi, I’m also new Lucid owner. As for mileage I also get a lot less than what it should be. Maybe out of 514 mile charge I get probably a little less than 400. I’ve been in contact with Lucid customer care as when we will be able to charge anywhere, as of two weeks ago I was told they are sure yet.

Does this mean your display is showing a little less than 400, or when you drive your average efficiency means you can go a little less than 400? There is a big difference between the two.

 

[AdrianK]

I am a new Lucid Air Touring owner. I have previously owned 3 Tesla's (Model X, Model S x 2).

Yesterday I went on my first work trip. Car was charged to 370 miles. When I arrived at my destination, I had gone 182 miles and had 71 miles of range left. I had 117 miles of range evaporate.

Temp was in the 30's, average speed 75-78 MPH, 20" wheels, 2.5 software update.

Is this normal? Is there a good rule of thumb to hedge? I have experienced range degradation previously but not at this level.

Also, this was my first time charging at Electrify America. My car was telling me that a stall was available but there wasn't. Is that common? Also, this may be a stupid question, but at a different charging station there was a charger with two plugin cords. If one cord is being utilized, is the other disabled? Finally, I went to two different 350kW chargers yesterday and the max I got was 201kW- is that normal?

Also, in DreamDrive Pro mode, I rarely was able to utilize the auto lane change on a major interstate. The display would show the dotted center line- as soon as I put the blinker on, the center line would change to solid.

Trying to adjust to the switch from the Tesla ecosystem- any suggestions or insights would be greatly appreciated!

I switched from Tesla to Lucid partly for range, since regularly drive 520 and 240 miles one way. My 310 rated Tesla would not get me the 240 miles without slowing down, but my Tesla efficiency from 2014 to 2024 ranged from 65-70% to 90%, usually 80-85%. Headwinds (and speed) were biggest factor. And cold, but usually not a factor in Texas. Nothing seems to make a difference in the Lucid, not settings, not tire inflation, not cooling or heating with the seats only, not even headwinds. 65% is about the best I get.. I figure I get about 35 miles for every 10% of charge, so my effective range is about 350 miles from my 510 rated battery. I guess, heavy battery, less range, but it’s worth it to me. I used to arrive, at destinations and charging stations, with less than 10 miles, in the Tesla. And, the Lucid is way nicer.

 

[sri]

Today i am traveling in Chicago with Temps at 19’s and driving in local streets got me 2.2 mi/kw , is this expected?
My friend who is traveling with me in the same route and same time on Model Y got 3.2.

 

[Batteryman]

Today i am traveling in Chicago with Temps at 19’s and driving in local streets got me 2.2 mi/kw , is this expected?
My friend who is traveling with me in the same route and same time on Model Y got 3.2.

heavy foot, heater settings?

 

[sri]

heavy foot?

No, driving no more than 50mph. Recently the range took a big hit on me not sure what is wrong. I am expecting range loss due to weather but below 3 seems odd.
Even interior is set to 70 not too high.
My range avg is same even when i am driving highway between 75-78 in similar weather. Tomorrows temp is 10degree in the morning and i am driving towards Indiana, will see how far i can travel with 100% charged to 10% i am expecting i will get 2.95 to 3 m/kw.

 

[Blue Lectroid]

I switched from Tesla to Lucid partly for range, since regularly drive 520 and 240 miles one way. My 310 rated Tesla would not get me the 240 miles without slowing down, but my Tesla efficiency from 2014 to 2024 ranged from 65-70% to 90%, usually 80-85%. Headwinds (and speed) were biggest factor. And cold, but usually not a factor in Texas. Nothing seems to make a difference in the Lucid, not settings, not tire inflation, not cooling or heating with the seats only, not even headwinds. 65% is about the best I get.. I figure I get about 35 miles for every 10% of charge, so my effective range is about 350 miles from my 510 rated battery. I guess, heavy battery, less range, but it’s worth it to me. I used to arrive, at destinations and charging stations, with less than 10 miles, in the Tesla. And, the Lucid is way nicer.

What year GT do you have?

 

[Blue Lectroid]

Today i am traveling in Chicago with Temps at 19’s and driving in local streets got me 2.2 mi/kw , is this expected?
My friend who is traveling with me in the same route and same time on Model Y got 3.2.

What year / model is your Lucid and what year is your friend’s Model Y? Also, do you really drive identically? You could approach acceleration and deceleration completely differently. Also, how long was your trip? Did you precondition your car before heading out? Did he? Were both cars stored in the same conditions before starting out?

ALL of these factors play a huge role with EV range…by way of example, before my wife had a lot of experience driving EV’s, she’d get 60-70% of the range I got in the very same car. She had a heavy foot and did not yet change her driving style to take advantage of what an EV is capable of.

 

[sri]

2022 GT and friend is in his 2024 Model Y. Parked in the same garage and started same time with preconditioned to 70degrees.
Followed him along the route and may be little variance in paddle. I am not unhappy with the car, i am trying to understand if something that i am doing wrong or taken care properly.

 

[stratus]

Today i am traveling in Chicago with Temps at 19’s and driving in local streets got me 2.2 mi/kw , is this expected?
My friend who is traveling with me in the same route and same time on Model Y got 3.2.

Maybe a dumb question. Is this 2.2 since last charge or is it a trip reset m/kWh?

 

[sri]

Maybe a dumb question. Is this 2.2 since last charge or is it a trip reset m/kWh?

Not a dumb question , it is since last charge. I drove the vehicle by unplugging from the charge. Pre conditioned while charging.

 

[stratus]

Not a dumb question , it is since last charge. I drove the vehicle by unplugging from the charge. Pre conditioned while charging.

That may have affected your m/kWh a bit, but it seems like you started driving right after unplugging.

To be honest, I have gotten some pretty awful numbers in winter , sometimes in low 2s. I just chalk it up to a heavy car and very cold battery. It seems like the new models may have improved because of the heat pump.

 

[sri]

That may have affected your m/kWh a bit, but it seems like you started driving right after unplugging.

To be honest, I have gotten some pretty awful numbers in winter , sometimes in low 2s. I just chalk it up to a heavy car and very cold battery. It seems like the new models may have improved because of the heat pump.

If its due to cold i don't have to worry since this is just a temporary trip, the other 360 days i am in Florida and no cold weather like this

But this effect of 50% range drop is insane for anyone living in this weather.

 

[AwesoM]

TBH I have stopped trying to figure it out. There are days when it is colder out and I am getting 3.5 to 3.75.... and then there are days where is is 5 to 10 degrees warmer and I am getting 2.5. As far as i can tell all other variables are the same. I dont sweat it until i have to go somewhere long distance. Else its pedal to the metal and then back home to charge

 

[stratus]

If its due to cold i don't have to worry since this is just a temporary trip, the other 360 days i am in Florida and no cold weather like this

But this effect of 50% range drop is insane for anyone living in this weather.

On average, I get about a 30 % drop in winter but I must admit there are periods where it can be as bad as 50%. 50% is NOT typical for most winter driving though. It’s just good to be aware that it can happen. Enjoy Florida.

 

[Pragmatic]

The cold weater will impact short trips and low speeds more than long trips and highet speeds. The heat will use similar kw-hr per minute. So at 35 it will have twice the impact as at 70. Short trips hurt because the energy (kw-hr) used to initially warm the vehicle will be spread over fewer miles.

 

[Knucklehead]

The most important temperature is battery, not ambient (assuming no climate control). The battery temperature is impacted by the ambient temperature, but there are other factors that impact battery temp. When comparing two trips, you could have a lower battery temperature even though the ambient is higher.

Track battery temperature if you can.

 

[Blue Lectroid]

2022 GT and friend is in his 2024 Model Y. Parked in the same garage and started same time with preconditioned to 70degrees.
Followed him along the route and may be little variance in paddle. I am not unhappy with the car, i am trying to understand if something that i am doing wrong or taken care properly.

Is his the dual motor version? Are your tires properly inflated?

He has a heat pump and you do not...that is a very large difference. Also, if you are doing a lot of stop and go driving around town (as opposed to a blend of stop and go and cruising) you are moving an additional 1,000 pounds of weight...accelerating that to speed repeatedly around town will take a toll. Finally, do you both have the Regen settings on your cars set to maximum?