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It’s All About the Range And Charging Speed

bunnylebowski

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They write “$4 gallon gas never smelled so sweet” at the end of their article. Yeah if you’re huffing those gas fumes it sure will smell sweet as those few remaining brain cells go POP. Morons. The fact that they actually wrote about how fast the EA charger was, but then still chose to go to shit chargers like a Chevy dealer on the way back proves that these people are actually stupid. Or had an agenda? I’m just chuckling at them driving right past EA chargers so they could wait at some Harley dealer Chargepoint charger to give them 30kw in 3 hours.
 

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They write “$4 gallon gas never smelled so sweet” at the end of their article. Yeah if you’re huffing those gas fumes it sure will smell sweet as those few remaining brain cells go POP. Morons. The fact that they actually wrote about how fast the EA charger was, but then still chose to go to shit chargers like a Chevy dealer on the way back proves that these people are actually stupid. Or had an agenda? I’m just chuckling at them driving right past EA chargers so they could wait at some Harley dealer Chargepoint charger to give them 30kw in 3 hours.
Evidently, they admitted on Twitter they had consulted Better Route Planner, which showed them the faster EA chargers, but decided to ignore that advice. Because they wanted to visit Memphis and Nashville. A rather important factoid they just happened to leave out of their entire article.
 

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I have 1000’s of road trip miles under my belt. Driving an EV cross country, particularly if you want to venture away from interstates takes planning. I traveled several routes that would have taken an extra day in anything other than a Lucid. With the included cable there are many many RV spots that have 14-50 plugs. However, at Lucid‘s 8kWh when using the included cable, that’s a long stop if you need to go from 20% to 80%. ChargePoint has a 65kW dc direct charger that requires far less infrastructure than EA 150 or 350. Experience so far is the 350s have very high out of service rate and in practice are not much faster than the 150s for various reasons. We would be better off to have lots and lots of 65kW chargers that can be attached to existing commercial buildings without additional transformers or switch gear.

Also, if you plan to drive over 70mph don‘t expect more than 3.0 miles per kWh in Lucid. I have a DE performance with 21” tires. So perhaps the number is a little higher for 19” tires.
 

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Evidently, they admitted on Twitter they had consulted Better Route Planner, which showed them the faster EA chargers, but decided to ignore that advice. Because they wanted to visit Memphis and Nashville. A rather important factoid they just happened to leave out of their entire article.
That proves this was deliberate, as they could still have just went to EA stations. TN (I grew up in Chattanooga) has become increasingly EV friendly with enough EA stations to drive across the very long state because VW has a plant in Chattanooga where they are building the ID4, my dad lives 15 minutes away from it… and yes this is the same VW who is the whole reason why we have Electrify America chargers because they lied about emissions and got caught! I’m literally a better journalist with this one post than these WSJ losers, and I have no journalistic qualifications!
 

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"Biden to require electric vehicle charging stations every 50 miles on federal highways

Charging stations would be prohibited from requiring users to have a membership or be part of a club"

It'd be great when this type of infrastructure becomes a reality.
 

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That's a chicken and egg problem, though. The waiting has to get bad enough, and at most times, not just a couple of peak moments during the week, before companies will want to fully invest in further improvements.

We don't do preventative infrastructure here in the US.
Well I think there’s about $5 billion headed that way right now. Remember the EA system was developed with a $2 billion investment from Volkswagen… Their punishment for dieselgate.
 

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That’s fu
Those two bimbos who did the road trip didn’t know what they were doing. A lot of the delays were self-inflicted, stemming primarily from not educating themselves first, and not planning in advance.

I don’t have it in me to be sympathetic.
That’s funny.
 

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This utter shit article has legs. We had a birthday party for my kid and my friend’s mom noticed the Lucid in the garage and asked if she could take a look at it and so I sat her in the passenger seat and walked her through all the awesome stuff with the car. She then told me she read this article on the Wall Street Journal about how the country wasn’t ready for EVs because these ladies on their road trip took 3 hours to charge each time and she asked if I was worried that I wouldn’t be able to go on road trips. So I showed her the ABRP app and the route these total hacks could have taken and she was shocked and now she thinks it was a deliberate hit piece on EVs. She also said “what kind of idiot would think you could fast charge a car at a Harley dealership?”

So here’s my idea: does anyone know anybody with a Kia EV6 who wants to take the same route these fools did but only use ABRP and prove that it can be done in WAAAY faster time without trouble and that gasoline does not smell so sweet (man what a cheesey line, that’s some 3rd grade quality writing🤪👎). Maybe someone from Kia corporate calling them to arrange an identical route test without utterly botched planning might lead to a retraction.
 
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This utter shit article has legs. We had a birthday party for my kid and my friend’s mom noticed the Lucid in the garage and asked if she could take a look at it and so I sat her in the passenger seat and walked her through all the awesome stuff with the car. She then told me she read this article on the Wall Street Journal about how the country wasn’t ready for EVs because these ladies on their road trip took 3 hours to charge each time and she asked if I was worried that I wouldn’t be able to go on road trips. So I showed her the ABRP app and the route these total hacks could have taken and she was shocked and now she thinks it was a deliberate hit piece on EVs. She also said “what kind of idiot would think you could fast charge a car at a Harley dealership?”

So here’s my idea: does anyone know anybody with a Kia EV6 who wants to take the same route these fools did but only use ABRP and prove that it can be done in WAAAY faster time without trouble and that gasoline does not smell so sweet (man what a cheesey line, that’s some 3rd grade quality writing🤪👎). Maybe someone from Kia corporate calling them to arrange an identical route test without utterly botched planning might lead to a retraction.
Outstanding idea.
I had friends and relatives bring this article up and I told them it was complete utter garbage.
 

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This utter shit article has legs. We had a birthday party for my kid and my friend’s mom noticed the Lucid in the garage and asked if she could take a look at it and so I sat her in the passenger seat and walked her through all the awesome stuff with the car. She then told me she read this article on the Wall Street Journal about how the country wasn’t ready for EVs because these ladies on their road trip took 3 hours to charge each time and she asked if I was worried that I wouldn’t be able to go on road trips. So I showed her the ABRP app and the route these total hacks could have taken and she was shocked and now she thinks it was a deliberate hit piece on EVs. She also said “what kind of idiot would think you could fast charge a car at a Harley dealership?”

So here’s my idea: does anyone know anybody with a Kia EV6 who wants to take the same route these fools did but only use ABRP and prove that it can be done in WAAAY faster time without trouble and that gasoline does not smell so sweet (man what a cheesey line, that’s some 3rd grade quality writing🤪👎). Maybe someone from Kia corporate calling them to arrange an identical route test without utterly botched planning might lead to a retraction.
Heck, when I told my mother I'm now driving a Tesla, she immediately said "I hope you don't drive it much. Those cars explode."

I mean, Elon gets away with a lot of things, but the idea that my mom thinks all Teslas explode tells you all you need to know about the state of media in our country right now.
 

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While the article does read as a conservative hit-piece on EVs (WSJ has a certain viewpoint), the EV6's navigation software does not currently include charging stops in its route planning. This was a big blunder by Kia, and the author exploited it.
 

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This utter shit article has legs. We had a birthday party for my kid and my friend’s mom noticed the Lucid in the garage and asked if she could take a look at it and so I sat her in the passenger seat and walked her through all the awesome stuff with the car. She then told me she read this article on the Wall Street Journal about how the country wasn’t ready for EVs because these ladies on their road trip took 3 hours to charge each time and she asked if I was worried that I wouldn’t be able to go on road trips. So I showed her the ABRP app and the route these total hacks could have taken and she was shocked and now she thinks it was a deliberate hit piece on EVs. She also said “what kind of idiot would think you could fast charge a car at a Harley dealership?”

So here’s my idea: does anyone know anybody with a Kia EV6 who wants to take the same route these fools did but only use ABRP and prove that it can be done in WAAAY faster time without trouble and that gasoline does not smell so sweet (man what a cheesey line, that’s some 3rd grade quality writing🤪👎). Maybe someone from Kia corporate calling them to arrange an identical route test without utterly botched planning might lead to a retraction.
I think Kyle Conner from Out Of Spec Mororing YouTube channel is planning to tackle this at some point.
 

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Once in a while, we take a slow 35-40 mile run along the beach on A1A. Today we used the Rivian, and I set it to the best efficiency mode. Front wheel drive and lowest height setting. The Rivian delivered a respectable 3.61m/kWh. Multiplying it by 135 kW battery pack, the Rivian can deliver 487 miles on a charge. Not that I can tolerate driving more than an hour at 35MPH but I did not expect to see numbers in the 3.5m/kWh range. Traveling North on a 91 degree day, 3PM, wind from the East stated as 9MPH.
 

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Also, if you plan to drive over 70mph don‘t expect more than 3.0 miles per kWh in Lucid. I have a DE performance with 21” tires
I got 3.4 to 3.7 doing 70/75 mph on my 21’s
 

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7000 miles I’ve not gotten anything close to that even using cruise control at 75.
Interesting. Those numbers came from recent trip from SoCal to NorCal.
 
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