How Much Range Are You Actually Getting?

[DeaneG]

...It's pretty much a no-brainer for Elon to ditch the proprietary connector at some point in the US. Who knows when? But they will do it. Just for the simplicity of it.

Simplicity and to allow 800V+ charging, if Tesla implements this in a future model.

 

[njg-agt]

.... It's pretty much a no-brainer for Elon to ....

Oh no, then it is likely doomed... </sarcasm>

 

[Hcuellar77]

Maybe have the Goal numbers in the first post in a table? (My point is more that most folks won't know what the goal numbers should be)

Percentage	DE-P 19	DE-R 21	DE-P 21	DE-R 19	GT 19	GT 21
100	471	481	451	520	516	469
90	424	433	406	468	464	422
80	377	385	361	416	413	375
70	330	337	316	364	361	328
60	283	289	271	312	310	281
50	236	241	226	260	258	235
40	188	192	180	208	206	188
30	141	144	135	156	155	141

I wonder what makes the 4mi difference between the DE-R and the GT, what does the DE have to make it 520 vs 516. Just curious

 

[borski]

I wonder what makes the 4mi difference between the DE-R and the GT, what does the DE have to make it 520 vs 516. Just curious

Different battery tech. One uses Samsung cells and one uses LG cells.

 

[Coltonw011]

Doesn’t the DE have a larger pack? I thought it was 118 kWh, vs 112 kWh in the GT, no?

 

[stevelitchfieldpark]

I wonder what makes the 4mi difference between the DE-R and the GT, what does the DE have to make it 520 vs 516. Just curious

The ones with more mileage had 3 MPH wind and lower mileage 4 MPH wind during testing.

 

[Sandvinsd]

Doesn’t the DE have a larger pack? I thought it was 118 kWh, vs 112 kWh in the GT, no?

Yes.

 

[thecodingart]

70-80% is what I seem to be getting… which is worse than my prior eqs unfortunately

 

[Hcuellar77]

Update on my 3rd road trip:
GT 21in wheels, 5 passengers, frunk and trunk packed, 100degrees outside, AC at 74 all the way, most of the trip on cruise control between 70-80, mostly 75.
305mi until first EA charging station, made it with 12% battery, 49mi left, I was anxious because is the first trip completely packed but I am pleased with the results, average 3mi/kWh.

 

[Coltonw011]

Just got back from my 471 mile round trip. This trip started in Santa Rosa, CA went to Old Station, CA, stayed for a night and drove back this morning. Santa Rosa elevation is ~160’ above sea level, Old Station is ~4400’ above sea level (the climb up through Mt Lassen reaches ~6000’). There was a lot of I5 driving, Hwy 29 (lots of incline/decline) with speeds about 80 mph. I was going to attempt this on one charge until my GFs father needed a ride back and I didn’t want to stress him out. I stopped in Andersen California and charged to 88% before the climb up Lassen. Arrived in Old Station with 66% and parked overnight. No charge on the way home and returned with 22% SoC. I didn’t conserve on the way home, but I would not have been able to make it on one charge with the way I drove. “Since last charge” it’s from when I charged in Andersen, and “Trip A” is the entire journey. Very pleased with it, temps on the way home today were in the upper 90s all the way home, AC set to 69 on fan speed 3.

 

[Demosthenes]

Just got back from my 471 mile round trip. This trip started in Santa Rosa, CA went to Old Station, CA, stayed for a night and drove back this morning. Santa Rosa elevation is ~160’ above sea level, Old Station is ~4400’ above sea level (the climb up through Mt Lassen reaches ~6000’). There was a lot of I5 driving, Hwy 29 (lots of incline/decline) with speeds about 80 mph. I was going to attempt this on one charge until my GFs father needed a ride back and I didn’t want to stress him out. I stopped in Andersen California and charged to 88% before the climb up Lassen. Arrived in Old Station with 66% and parked overnight. No charge on the way home and returned with 22% SoC. I didn’t conserve on the way home, but I would not have been able to make it on one charge with the way I drove. “Since last charge” it’s from when I charged in Andersen, and “Trip A” is the entire journey. Very pleased with it, temps on the way home today were in the upper 90s all the way home, AC set to 69 on fan speed 3.

Great report and incredible numbers considering it’s a straight climb up from Anderson. Are you on 19s or 21s?

 

[Coltonw011]

Great report and incredible numbers considering it’s a straight climb up from Anderson. Are you on 19s or 21s?

19s!

 

[Hcuellar77]

19s!

Great numbers on 19’s, almost makes me want to switch . Wish I could go back and forth between 19’s for road trips and 21’s for commuting

 

[Coltonw011]

Great numbers on 19’s, almost makes me want to switch . Wish I could go back and forth between 19’s for road trips and 21’s for commuting

I have learned to deal with the appearance of them in order to achieve this range. Fortunately I don’t see them when driving!

 

[borski]

Great numbers on 19’s, almost makes me want to switch . Wish I could go back and forth between 19’s for road trips and 21’s for commuting

You can. Just swap them.

 

[Steveinarizona]

I have learned to deal with the appearance of them in order to achieve this range. Fortunately I don’t see them when driving!

That was my theory when I test drove the BMW IX. But my home office is off the garage and I would have had to look at that "thing" multiple times a day and just couldn't stomach it. But I can certainly live with 19s.

 

[Sandvinsd]

After 2 charges my numbers now read, using kWh received rather than delivered. There is a lot of heat loss and vampire drain using the delivered numbers.

Total = 42.88 kWh consumed to drive 123 miles = 2.86 miles per kWh x 112 battery = 321 estimated real range
321 miles real range / 516 EPA = 62% of EPA range.

Not the ringing endorsement of efficiency, but I’m withholding jusgement until I take a trip. It just gives me an idea of what to expect.

 

[rbbarry]

After 2 charges my numbers now read, using kWh received rather than delivered. There is a lot of heat loss and vampire drain using the delivered numbers.

Total = 42.88 kWh consumed to drive 123 miles = 2.86 miles per kWh x 112 battery = 321 estimated real range
321 miles real range / 516 EPA = 62% of EPA range.

Not the ringing endorsement of efficiency, but I’m withholding jusgement until I take a trip. It just gives me an idea of what to expect.

Doesn't it get better after you hit 1,000 miles in total?

 

[hellolucid]

70-80% is what I seem to be getting… which is worse than my prior eqs unfortunately

how many miles have you driven in your Lucid? this looks below average compared to other reports i have seen.

 

[Sandvinsd]

how many miles have you driven in your Lucid? this looks below average compared to other reports i have seen.

i have 233 miles on the odometer, but only 123 miles of that in my calculations as the odometer was 110 when I filled to 80% the first time. Over time (and more miles) the rounding errors will get less. I am sure the numbers will improve over time. Give me a month or so.

I am going from 80% full to 80% full to get the efficiency. It’s the same way I calculate on an ICE. Full tank to full tank. Miles driven between fill ups / gallons delivered (Delivered = received since I am not pouring gas on the ground). In an EV, though, I have to calculate kWh received since there are heat losses (Delivered does not equal received). so can’t use kWh delivered (but that is how one would calculate real fuel cost per mile). The calculation on each fill up will vary due to many reasons, but one can get a feel if something is wrong with the car affecting fuel efficiency. Over time, for the life of the car, the rounding errors, temp, wind, city vs freeway, etc. etc. all sort of blend in to a much more accurate number and I will get a very good feel for how the car actually performs.