Here you go fellas! Lucid Air SC network will be enabled

[Celeras]

Why on earth does the adapter only work with DC? That's the faster NACS variety... AC is the slower one. If it works with DC shouldn't it work with both?

 

[EVCar]

Thanks for the info.

If you're going to do the cost comparison to ICE, it's important to include the more common use case of filling at home. How much the gas at the pump in your garage?

*mic drop*

Well, don't have access to a home charger while on trips

 

[9point81]

Anyone know of any quick way to search for v4 superchargers? I know they're quite rare (if any).

Also, I wonder if Lectron or other adaptors will work and this is just Lucid trying to sell their branded adaptor. Time will tell...

Remember the v4 are cabinet only. They have not yet rolled out full v4 superchargers.

 

[newlucidguy]

I was also hoping that the adapter would be in the Rewards Store but this morning the Rewards Store is gone. I guess I can be a hopeless optimist and hope that the Rewards Store is closed while they load the adapter.

it's not gone .. you can go there from the web portal (the weblink in the phone app to the reward store isn't working as you pointed out). that said, I don't see the adapter in the rewards store, only the regular (paid) online store. was hoping for a reward order but I can see why lucid wouldn't do that (especially at the start). ordered one.

 

[KidRich]

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[coma24]

Didn't someone else here say in that other NACS post that right now only Lucid Air Grand Touring and Touring showed up as options on Superchargers? Is this still the case and us Air Pure owners are left out in the cold? I certainly hope this will work on ALL models of Air

The announcement specifically said ALL models of Air. I wouldn't worry too much.

 

[lucidtouringman]

Sharing what I'm understanding about this adapter with respect to it saying that this is for DC CHARGNG only. A couple of years ago, I purchased a LECTRON NACS to CCS 'dumb' adapter for use at Tesla destination chargers (Not Superchargers) which are considered AC chargers and don't go above 11-12Kwph of charge. So if I need to charge at Tesla destination chargers, I CANNOT use the NACS to CCS1 DC charger as it will get damaged. Thus, I will now need to carry two adapters- one for AC chargers (Lectron) which are Tesla destination and wall chargers and one for DC supercharging (Lucid pre-order) and I cannot cross use them at all or bad things will happen. Just wanted to put this out there in case people are thinking that they will be able to use the new adapter at destination chargers...please do not...as per Lucid, it may cause damage. If someone interprets the specs differently, please feel free to correct me but that's how I'm interpreting it - two separate adapters for two separate flavors of Tesla network charging.

 

[coma24]

Well, don't have access to a home charger while on trips

My point is that assuming most of your driving is local (not road trips), then the home charging cost largely drives the total cost of charging over longer periods of time.

 

[coma24]

Sharing what I'm understanding about this adapter with respect to it saying that this is for DC CHARGNG only. A couple of years ago, I purchased a LECTRON NACS to CCS 'dumb' adapter for use at Tesla destination chargers (Not Superchargers) which are considered AC chargers and don't go above 11-12Kwph of charge. So if I need to charge at Tesla destination chargers, I CANNOT use the NACS to CCS1 DC charger as it will get damaged. Thus, I will now need to carry two adapters- one for AC chargers (Lectron) which are Tesla destination and wall chargers and one for DC supercharging (Lucid pre-order) and I cannot cross use them at all or bad things will happen. Just wanted to put this out there in case people are thinking that they will be able to use the new adapter at destination chargers...please do not...as per Lucid, it may cause damage. If someone interprets the specs differently, please feel free to correct me but that's how I'm interpreting it - two separate adapters for two separate flavors of Tesla network charging.

Yes, it's important to know if you're working with DC or AC as the starting point as that determines which adapter you'll need.

 

[Adnillien]

Why on earth does the adapter only work with DC? That's the faster NACS variety... AC is the slower one. If it works with DC shouldn't it work with both?

On the NACS side, both AC and DC use the same two pins. For CCS, the AC and DC pins are separate. You could build a very expensive smart adapter with relays to switch between AC and DC but it is simpler, cheaper and easier two have a separate DC adapter that connects to the DC CCS pins and separate AC adapter that connects to the CCS AC pins.

 

[Spin Doctor]

Looking at the pinout (here) the Lucid CCS-NACS adapter lacks the L / N pins in the J1772 portion up top.

 

[Celeras]

On the NACS side, both AC and DC use the same two pins. For CCS, the AC and DC pins are separate. You could build a very expensive smart adapter with relays to switch between AC and DC but it is simpler, cheaper and easier two have a separate DC adapter that connects to the DC CCS pins and separate AC adapter that connects to the CCS AC pins.

Thanks, I figured it had to be some kind of technical limitation but didn't understand. It makes sense why the AC couldn't do DC... but not the other way around. You'd think you could just send the slower AC over the DC pins no problem!

That's definitely going to be annoying to say the least.

 

[Tym]

as someone who has way too many LCID stock, this new interim CEO knows what he is doing.

the last guy knew how to build a great car, but this CEO seems to know how to get the stock price up. speaking strictly from stock price action only.

 

[borski]

Sharing what I'm understanding about this adapter with respect to it saying that this is for DC CHARGNG only.

Correct.

A couple of years ago, I purchased a LECTRON NACS to CCS 'dumb' adapter for use at Tesla destination chargers (Not Superchargers) which are considered AC chargers and don't go above 11-12Kwph of charge.

You did not purchase a ‘dumb’ NACS to CCS adapter; you purchased a NACS to J1772 adapter.

So if I need to charge at Tesla destination chargers, I CANNOT use the NACS to CCS1 DC charger as it will get damaged. Thus, I will now need to carry two adapters- one for AC chargers (Lectron) which are Tesla destination and wall chargers and one for DC supercharging (Lucid pre-order) and I cannot cross use them at all or bad things will happen.

Correct. You must carry one NACS to J1772 adapter to use destination chargers etc, and one NACS to CCS1 adapter to use superchargers.

I know CCS1 reuses the J1772 pins but they are *not* the same.

Just wanted to put this out there in case people are thinking that they will be able to use the new adapter at destination chargers...please do not...as per Lucid, it may cause damage. If someone interprets the specs differently, please feel free to correct me but that's how I'm interpreting it - two separate adapters for two separate flavors of Tesla network charging.

You are correct.

 

[Miami_Lucid_Man]

Remember the v4 are cabinet only. They have not yet rolled out full v4 superchargers.

Are you positive? I'm seeing several articles about V4 being rolled out and operational next year that were written in 2024. The site i originally linked to on the first page of this thread indicates V4 325 kw in several locations down here around Florida that are operational.

 

[Tim-in-CA]

There is also an improvement in performance and NVH of the AC compressor. I wonder how "improved" it actually will be.

 

[HC_79]

Are you positive? I'm seeing several articles about V4 being rolled out and operational next year that were written in 2024. The site i originally linked to on the first page of this thread indicates V4 325 kw in several locations down here around Florida that are operational.

The "true" V4 doesn't exist yet. Tesla has announced it but looks like we won't see any true V4 until this quarter or next.

 

[Miami_Lucid_Man]

Hmm… well…I preordered the adaptor and I have a road trip for business planned from Miami to Davenport, FL just south of Disney in mid Aug. There is a brand new and operational 20 stall V4 station that I’m planning to try out. I guess worst case I’ll get up to 50kw but maybe I’ll get lucky.

 

[Celeras]

Is the 50kW limit attributed to the Lucid adapter, or just all Airs? Could you charge faster with a third party adapter at a Supercharger?

 

[RAF42]

Is the 50kW limit attributed to the Lucid adapter, or just all Airs? Could you charge faster with a third party adapter at a Supercharger?

All Airs, regardless of adapter (limitation of the Air's Wunderbox). They overcame that limitation with the Gravity and a special design that allows the rear motors to boost the voltage.