Gravity; SUV or Minivan

[borski]

@borski the thread you hate!
I guess you gotta peak in as moderator, huh?

This thread sucks

 

[hmp10]

Not even close. Honda Odyssey has 158 cubic feet.
Too much space to be an SUV, too small to be minivan.

Interior volume numbers are captured all kinds of ways and not always consistently. Most sources give the Odyssey interior volume as 163.5 or 163.6 cubic feet in one trim and 160.1 in another trim. Lucid gives the Gravity cargo space as 112 cubic feet, but I have found no number for total interior volume. (Remember that the Lucid cargo space number includes the frunk.) So an apples-to-apples comparison of Lucid volume to Odyssey volume is hard to do.

We have been driving a Honda Odyssey since 2011 and now have a 2018 Odyssey. And I have spent a good part of an afternoon sitting in and playing around with the interior of a Gravity. Here's the bottom line of my own observations:

The passenger space of the Gravity looks and feels roomier than the Odyssey. The third row of the Odyssey is a bit easier for ingress and egress, but the Gravity third row is just as roomy with the second row in both vehicles pushed all the way back. In the second row, the Gravity seating really outshines the Odyssey, with longer bottom seat cushions and considerably more legroom with the front driver seat put to my preferred driving position in both vehicles. And the front seats of the Gravity outclass the Odyssey in legroom, perceived width, and seat comfort and adjustability.

In short, there will be nothing that we have done and carried in our Odyssey that we will be giving up when we switch to the Gravity. And we'll be picking up sports car power and handling, all-wheel drive, and a host of comfort and convenience features.

 

[Gravitas]

Dude. It's a minivan. Full stop.

It's a styling fail for basically anyone under 50.

Dude. It's a Schrödinger’s cat paradox. Full stop.
A Lucid Gravity is in superposition until you observe it.
And when finally do, you'll see that it's an SUV.

 

[JB67]

I am not sure if it was this thread or another, but who ever proposed it being a “tall” station wagon I think is on to something.

After every video I have watched lately on the Gravity, I am getting closer and closer to agreeing with whoever said that.

 

[illopp00]

The proportions are because it is low relative to other 3 row and large SUVs, it is 65in height as listed on the Spec, which is the same height as my 14 Honda CR-V, but it is 20 inches longer.

 

[hmp10]

If this is a minivan, it's the sleekest and coolest-looking minivan I've ever seen:

Having seen this one twice in the flesh and an Aurora Green one, too, I can attest to what @Knucklehead and @msaunders9430 posted: some photographs are very misleading with this vehicle. It looks much racier in person than any minivan I've ever seen.

 

[new owner]

I am not sure if it was this thread or another, but who ever proposed it being a “tall” station wagon I think is on to something.

After every video I have watched lately on the Gravity, I am getting closer and closer to agreeing with whoever said that.

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It really shows the Gravity is more like a raised station wagon.
Looks great to me
Always wanted a Mercedes wagon but this is that and much more

 

[AP22]

If this is a minivan, it's the sleekest and coolest-looking minivan I've ever seen:

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Having seen this one twice in the flesh and an Aurora Green one, too, I can attest to what @Knucklehead and @msaunders9430 posted: some photographs are very misleading with this vehicle. It looks much racier in person than any minivan I've ever seen.

100% - It will be the raciest minivan on the market once real deliveries start. Although, this one is pretty cool too.

 

[hmp10]

100% - It will be the raciest minivan on the market once real deliveries start. Although, this one is pretty cool too.

I agree the Pacifica is a sleek, nice-looking vehicle from pretty much all angles. However, I think the Gravity is sleeker still. For one thing, it is ~ 5" lower. Furthering the sleek look is the downward sweep of its roofline, both in actuality and visually enhanced by the blacked-out line above the rear cantrail.

Note how the chrome window trim of the Pacifica tends to push the rear roofline upward visually and how the rear then drops at about 30º to a relatively flat plane. By contrast, the Gravity rear roofline accentuates the downward sweep visually before transitioning to a more angled drop of about 45º to a more sculpted rear. Also the extended roof spoiler conveys a sense of motion, evoking something of the tail of a comet. Also, the blacked out wheel arches reduce the sense of mass in the rear side panels. When I first walked through the doors of the West Palm Beach studio and caught sight of the Gravity at the far opposite end of the display area, I turned to my partner and said, "jeez, that thing looks like a bullet train." (I was surprised a couple of weeks later to hear Derek Jenkins say in an interview that bullet trains were part of the design inspiration.) It's not a remark that has ever jumped to mind when catching first glimpse of a minivan.

 

[msaunders9430]

I would love to see something like this where the Gravity is compared to other SUVs.
No contest against any minivan.

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[hwy17er]

You're making me feel much more comfortable with the idea of owning a minivan Gravity!

just not seeing the whole minivan thing here...look at it next to an Outback (which no one has ever called a "minivan"

 

[TahoeMichael]

I think that the relatively short hood is what gives minivan vibes to some people, more than anything else. That's the only part of the design that really stands out from many other vehicles that people are happy to call SUVs. I don't really care one way or the other, function matters way more than form to me. I like the amazing packaging and interior volume available, and the short hood is required to make that possible. Short hoods will probably get more and more common, as vehicle designers step away from the limitations posed by putting an ICE under the hood of the vehicle they're designing.

 

[hmp10]

I think that the relatively short hood is what gives minivan vibes to some people, more than anything else. That's the only part of the design that really stands out from many other vehicles that people are happy to call SUVs. I don't really care one way or the other, function matters way more than form to me. I like the amazing packaging and interior volume available, and the short hood is required to make that possible. Short hoods will probably get more and more common, as vehicle designers step away from the limitations posed by putting an ICE under the hood of the vehicle they're designing.

Although we had seen the Gravity three times before, it was always in studio showrooms . . . and we really liked the look.

However, as we got near the studio for our test drive last week, one of the test drive Gravities turned in front of us at an intersection -- Aurora Green with 22/23" wheels. All three of us were a bit astonished at just how muscular it looked from the rear. Then, after we parked and were walking up the street to the studio, we saw it parked by the curb in full sunlight. It was downright stunning.

My partner had just sold his Model S Plaid to make way for his Gravity. Although he wasn't saying much, I knew he wasn't entirely sure about the switch from a sport sedan to an SUV. When I saw his reaction to that Gravity, though, I knew the doubting was over. He has been asking me every day since if I've heard anything about a VIN.

 

[AnthonySF]

I think that the relatively short hood is what gives minivan vibes to some people, more than anything else. That's the only part of the design that really stands out from many other vehicles that people are happy to call SUVs. I don't really care one way or the other, function matters way more than form to me. I like the amazing packaging and interior volume available, and the short hood is required to make that possible. Short hoods will probably get more and more common, as vehicle designers step away from the limitations posed by putting an ICE under the hood of the vehicle they're designing.

Agreed to your point about the short hood but it’s more like a large station wagon. It’s only 65” tall. 5” shorter height wise than a minivan and only 6” taller than a RS6 Avant. You can see in the photo this woman who is 5’5”, her waist is pretty much at the top of the hood of the vehicle.

 

[msaunders9430]

just not seeing the whole minivan thing here...look at it next to an Outback (which no one has ever called a "minivan"

The Gravity epitomizes the phrase "pictures can be deceiving".
I liked it before I saw it in person, but once I saw it, I was in love.

Also, with the adjustable ride height, it can look like a low riding minivan, depending on the camera angle, but then look like a low riding wagon (e.g. RS6 Avant) in another picture at a different angle.
Raise the ride height and the suv vibe comes through.
Look at it from the rear and you get the Porsche Cayenne vibe at the medium-to-high height, but at the low height it can look like a minivan.

As was pointed it, the frontal view is unmatched.
The frontal view next to the Outback makes it look like a beast (muscular nose) of an suv.

It's been said that it redefines the suv category; not just in ride, but looks as well.

The minivan look isn't necessarily bad.
I've read comments from viewers who like the minivan look and wish it had the sliding door.

 

[JoeMa]

It doesn't look like a minivan to me.

We live near the King of Prussia Mall in PA and we're waiting for a Gravity to show up for a test drive at their new Studio in the KOP Mall. My wife and I are very interested in the Gravity but we've learned the hard way not to order a brand new design without first test driving it to make sure it meets our needs. The driving reviews have been mostly positive but a few things that we must be working out of the gate is CarPlay (a deal breaker for us) and maybe we'll wait for a HUD. I'm personally a bit concerned about the glass roof going over my head in the front seats. My wife likes the design and it may not be an issue for me either, but I need to experience it for myself.

Are there any quirks those of you who have driven a demo of the Gravity might share? Thanks!

 

[illopp00]

Agreed to your point about the short hood but it’s more like a large station wagon. It’s only 65” tall. 5” shorter height wise than a minivan and only 6” taller than a RS6 Avant. You can see in the photo this woman who is 5’5”, her waist is pretty much at the top of the hood of the vehicle.

I think it's also the width, is does have a good squat look from the front 3/4 angle. The Lucid bar tends to accentuate that.

 

[illopp00]

It doesn't look like a minivan to me.

We live near the King of Prussia Mall in PA and we're waiting for a Gravity to show up for a test drive at their new Studio in the KOP Mall. My wife and I are very interested in the Gravity but we've learned the hard way not to order a brand new design without first test driving it to make sure it meets our needs. The driving reviews have been mostly positive but a few things that we must be working out of the gate is CarPlay (a deal breaker for us) and maybe we'll wait for a HUD. I'm personally a bit concerned about the glass roof going over my head in the front seats. My wife likes the design and it may not be an issue for me either, but I need to experience it for myself.

Are there any quirks those of you who have driven a demo of the Gravity might share? Thanks!

If you can use the search there are bunch of test drive write-ups that you will find very helpful.

 

[Bdr100]

Agreed to your point about the short hood but it’s more like a large station wagon. It’s only 65” tall. 5” shorter height wise than a minivan and only 6” taller than a RS6 Avant. You can see in the photo this woman who is 5’5”, her waist is pretty much at the top of the hood of the vehicle.

I agree with the station wagon comparison but prefer to use the European “Estate”, which is more elegant.