Gravity; SUV or Minivan

The Gravity doesn't look at all like a minivan to me, but this sure as hell looks like an El Camino... :-)
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Gravity looks more a slightly elevated sport wagon rather than a minivan.
After just seeing a prototype, i have to agree. It's much sportier-looking in person and definitely nowhere close to a minivan
 

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I don't think any speaker grills are much of a weight contributor. I like the way Lucid integrates the speaker grills into the design lines of the interior rather than calling attention to them.

For example, I find this speaker integration far more elegant:

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than this garish excrescence in a BMW I7:

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I actually agree with him, although they still should not be as garish as the i7. I actually pointed this EXACT issue out more than a year ago (noting it as simply nitpicking, as you stated in another message), during the Gravity's reveal:
 
I've just returned from a 3 week trip to Japan. All the very practical small vehicles with minivan-style sliding doors just served to reinforce my belief that Americans' dislike of minivans is foolish. I'd probably be a failure if anyone put me in charge of marketing a vehicle, so my opinion isn't worth much.
 
I've just returned from a 3 week trip to Japan. All the very practical small vehicles with minivan-style sliding doors just served to reinforce my belief that Americans' dislike of minivans is foolish. I'd probably be a failure if anyone put me in charge of marketing a vehicle, so my opinion isn't worth much.

Well, color my opinion as worthless, too, because I agree with you entirely.
 
This post is more for any who are on the fence about the Gravity because the SUV/Minivan debate.

As the Gravity (in Aurora Green) is being shown in more Lucid studios and online posts are made, as was predicted on this forum, there are comments about it looking like a minivan.
The comments often are about the rear opening being large and/or low.
The absence of a sliding rear door (a distinct minivan feature to me) rarely is mentioned.

The more I think about Americans love of SUVs I kinda wonder if people like the ease of loading stuff like groceries and small items that can be tossed into the rear space.
I know for me, that's an additional reason I don't want a car. A trunk is useless to me. Sorry, I digress.

I do alot of outdoor stuff with sizeable gear (biking, hiking, camping, fishing) and most of the time, in parking lots especially, I see pickup trucks with gear or SUVs with bikeracks/roofracks.
I don't like my bikes esposed to weather or possible crashes from the rear. I pay too much for them and don't want the inconvenience of replacing them.
I wonder if most people want the "sporty" look of an SUV, but are ok with most of them not being too utilitarian. That sporty look is why they hate the minivan look. It doesn't make you look sporty, even if you're not even using it for any sports or utility purposes other than groceries and soccer balls.

I don't see too many SUVs being used to haul lumber. I see pickup trucks.

I have a Honda Element that I use for my outdoor gear and occassionally for lumber or large item pick ups.
If and when my Element dies, I will CAREFULLY consider using my Gravity. Honestly, I can probably keep the Element running forever or just buy a used one when needed.
However, I like knowing that I can use my Gravity, at least for my bikes.
I also have three little granddaughters that I might allow inside; NO FOOD! :)

I wonder if people who are looking at the Gravity because of its sporty look, but believe it also looks like a minivan, might really just need a Macan or Cayenne.
But wait .... what about the third row seating?
If you want comfortable third row seating, especially for adults, consider:
1. Lyric - not as much cargo space; not much headroom for adults in third row; drives like a boat (aka land yacht)
2. R1S - if you can get past the cartoonish headlights, go for it; lacks some of the ADAS tech of the Gravity; looks maybe too outdoorsy/sporty for some (I'll put groceries and people in there, but "bugs bother me, I'm going inside")
3. Vistiq/Escalade IQ- more space than Lyric; more luxury look, less sporty look; pricier than Gravity with less space; land yacht
4. MB EQS - butt ugly bubble, but go for it; pricier with less space
5. Polestar 3/Volvo EX90 - just another Volvo, same look, but an EV; less space than Gravity

In my humble opinion, the Gravity is the excellent SUV for those: 1) wanting/needing the sporty look and maybe actually need it for SPORTS activities, and 2) wanting/needing the UTILITY of useable third row comfortable seating for adults or hauling large items (lumber, furniture, etc.).

I'll add that, it has a swag/luxury look to it in addition to sporty look and based on comments from those who have ridden in the Gravity, it drives and handle better than most SUVs or minivans. Sounds sporty to me.

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Dude. It's a minivan. Full stop.

It's a styling fail for basically anyone under 50.
 
I'm going to be controversial and say Yes, the Gravity is a lot like a minivan.
Many many SUVs and crossovers today, ARE very similar to minivans.
They're just missing the sliding doors.
For whatever reason, minivans are vehicle-non-grata these days with families. Even though THE thing they need IS a minivan.
But they've all migrated to SUVs for the "cool" factor.
Even though they're using them and treating them JUST like they would with a minivan, but with poorer rear seat accessibility.
I guess that's what their fictitious self image is worth.
 
Until many Gravitys appear in customer hands, it can remain in a state of superposition between SUV and minivan. Only under observation will it resolve into one or the other.
 
Until many Gravitys appear in customer hands, it can remain in a state of superposition between SUV and minivan. Only under observation will it resolve into one or the other.

Schrödinger's Gravity, huh? :D
 
I'm going to be controversial and say Yes, the Gravity is a lot like a minivan.
Many many SUVs and crossovers today, ARE very similar to minivans.
They're just missing the sliding doors.
For whatever reason, minivans are vehicle-non-grata these days with families. Even though THE thing they need IS a minivan.
But they've all migrated to SUVs for the "cool" factor.
Even though they're using them and treating them JUST like they would with a minivan, but with poorer rear seat accessibility.
I guess that's what their fictitious self image is worth.
Alternatively perhaps it's just a personal preference that some of us don't like the rectangle -on-wheels shape of a minivan. The practicality over all else approach.

You ascribe it instead to "self image" which is just silly. Cars are frequently purchased for aesthetics as much as practicality.

You can't deny that the styling of the gravity objectively sucks and it looks just like a minivan. That will hurt them.
 
You ascribe it instead to "self image" which is just silly. Cars are frequently purchased for aesthetics as much as practicality.
Yeah, I do.
I've lost count over the years how many Xers and Millennials have said to me, or near me, "ohhh gosh I would DIE before being seen driving a minivan." Or variants thereof.

And what are SUVs but rectangles on wheels?

I'll say that the Gravity looks NICE, and has a nice familial Lucid look.
It's side profile also reminds me of the Cadillac Lyriq, which I also like.
 
Alternatively perhaps it's just a personal preference that some of us don't like the rectangle -on-wheels shape of a minivan. The practicality over all else approach.

You ascribe it instead to "self image" which is just silly. Cars are frequently purchased for aesthetics as much as practicality.

You can't deny that the styling of the gravity objectively sucks and it looks just like a minivan. That will hurt them.

"Full stop." "You can't deny . . . ." "Objectively".

Your assertions as incontrovertible fact of what are nothing but subjective opinions is really rather juvenile.

Yes, some people find the Gravity to look more like a minivan than an SUV. And some don't. But none here on this forum have had the temerity and arrogance to claim their views are the only views admissable.

Frankly, you're revealing yourself as nothing more than a Tesla fanboy troll.

As someone who has owned Teslas since 2105 (a Model S P90D and a Model S Plaid) and has now owned a Lucid for over three years, let me give you my own incontrovertible, objective facts: Tesla products are not up to snuff when compared to Lucid products, and my objective knowledge of the matter has led me to the decision that I'm done with the Tesla brand and will be buying another Lucid as soon as the Gravity I have ordered is delivered.
 
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