Gravity; SUV or Minivan

I feel like they must have saved a lot of weight on the speaker grilles because they look basic, for a lack of nicer words. Attaching what my current Lincoln looks like.

I don't think any speaker grills are much of a weight contributor. I like the way Lucid integrates the speaker grills into the design lines of the interior rather than calling attention to them.

For example, I find this speaker integration far more elegant:

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than this garish excrescence in a BMW I7:

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This post is more for any who are on the fence about the Gravity because the SUV/Minivan debate.

As the Gravity (in Aurora Green) is being shown in more Lucid studios and online posts are made, as was predicted on this forum, there are comments about it looking like a minivan.
The comments often are about the rear opening being large and/or low.
The absence of a sliding rear door (a distinct minivan feature to me) rarely is mentioned.

The more I think about Americans love of SUVs I kinda wonder if people like the ease of loading stuff like groceries and small items that can be tossed into the rear space.
I know for me, that's an additional reason I don't want a car. A trunk is useless to me. Sorry, I digress.

I do alot of outdoor stuff with sizeable gear (biking, hiking, camping, fishing) and most of the time, in parking lots especially, I see pickup trucks with gear or SUVs with bikeracks/roofracks.
I don't like my bikes esposed to weather or possible crashes from the rear. I pay too much for them and don't want the inconvenience of replacing them.
I wonder if most people want the "sporty" look of an SUV, but are ok with most of them not being too utilitarian. That sporty look is why they hate the minivan look. It doesn't make you look sporty, even if you're not even using it for any sports or utility purposes other than groceries and soccer balls.

I don't see too many SUVs being used to haul lumber. I see pickup trucks.

I have a Honda Element that I use for my outdoor gear and occassionally for lumber or large item pick ups.
If and when my Element dies, I will CAREFULLY consider using my Gravity. Honestly, I can probably keep the Element running forever or just buy a used one when needed.
However, I like knowing that I can use my Gravity, at least for my bikes.
I also have three little granddaughters that I might allow inside; NO FOOD! :)

I wonder if people who are looking at the Gravity because of its sporty look, but believe it also looks like a minivan, might really just need a Macan or Cayenne.
But wait .... what about the third row seating?
If you want comfortable third row seating, especially for adults, consider:
1. Lyric - not as much cargo space; not much headroom for adults in third row; drives like a boat (aka land yacht)
2. R1S - if you can get past the cartoonish headlights, go for it; lacks some of the ADAS tech of the Gravity; looks maybe too outdoorsy/sporty for some (I'll put groceries and people in there, but "bugs bother me, I'm going inside")
3. Vistiq/Escalade IQ- more space than Lyric; more luxury look, less sporty look; pricier than Gravity with less space; land yacht
4. MB EQS - butt ugly bubble, but go for it; pricier with less space
5. Polestar 3/Volvo EX90 - just another Volvo, same look, but an EV; less space than Gravity

In my humble opinion, the Gravity is the excellent SUV for those: 1) wanting/needing the sporty look and maybe actually need it for SPORTS activities, and 2) wanting/needing the UTILITY of useable third row comfortable seating for adults or hauling large items (lumber, furniture, etc.).

I'll add that, it has a swag/luxury look to it in addition to sporty look and based on comments from those who have ridden in the Gravity, it drives and handle better than most SUVs or minivans. Sounds sporty to me.

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I want to get rid of my Tesla X. Had it for five years. Has been ok. But out of everything I’ve studied, it’s the Gravity for me. But as a retired teacher I can’t ever afford a $100k car. I can manage one in the $60s or $70s. I hope Lucid gets the lower priced model out the door by autumn. I’m in the market right now but this current price point is stopping my purchase of one.
 
I don't think any speaker grills are much of a weight contributor. I like the way Lucid integrates the speaker grills into the design lines of the interior rather than calling attention to them.

For example, I find this speaker integration far more elegant:

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than this garish excrescence in a BMW I7:

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Elegant is a nice word, I am leaning towards basic to the point of looking cheap. If it’s wood I would maybe change my mind but if it’s plastic…it doesn’t look good to me and if I paid an extra 3k for a high end atmos system it’s pretty terrible. Visually.
 
Elegant is a nice word, I am leaning towards basic to the point of looking cheap. If it’s wood I would maybe change my mind but if it’s plastic…it doesn’t look good to me and if I paid an extra 3k for a high end atmos system it’s pretty terrible. Visually.
That's a kind of ridiculous take. You're paying for the speakers, not the grills. In fact, many of the SSPro speakers are hidden so you can't even see them unless you're looking for them. As stated, Lucid is about elegance, not gaudiness or pretention. If you want the latter, go towards the 'classic' luxury brands, especially the Germans.
 
That's a kind of ridiculous take. You're paying for the speakers, not the grills. In fact, many of the SSPro speakers are hidden so you can't even see them unless you're looking for them. As stated, Lucid is about elegance, not gaudiness or pretention. If you want the latter, go towards the 'classic' luxury brands, especially the Germans.
Sounds like our opinions are different. It’s a minivan looking grill in a vehicle 3x the cost.
 

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I want to get rid of my Tesla X. Had it for five years. Has been ok. But out of everything I’ve studied, it’s the Gravity for me. But as a retired teacher I can’t ever afford a $100k car. I can manage one in the $60s or $70s. I hope Lucid gets the lower priced model out the door by autumn. I’m in the market right now but this current price point is stopping my purchase of one.
Autumn of 2026 or later most likely.
 
Sounds like our opinions are different. It’s a minivan looking grill in a vehicle 3x the cost.
Hey, Lucid is not for everyone. No shame in that.

I prefer simple and understated elegance, not gaudy overstated bling. You prefer the opposite. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Hey, Lucid is not for everyone. No shame in that.

I prefer simple and understated elegance, not gaudy overstated bling. You prefer the opposite. 🤷🏻‍♂️
Wow, one grill and you already made a determination on how I live my life…
 
Elegant is a nice word, I am leaning towards basic to the point of looking cheap. If it’s wood I would maybe change my mind but if it’s plastic…it doesn’t look good to me and if I paid an extra 3k for a high end atmos system it’s pretty terrible. Visually.

I guess I'm missing the point of why you would want to draw visual attention to the speakers in a car. To me, something like that speaker grill in the BMW is the visual equivalent of sitting at a stoplight trying to rattle the doors of nearby cars with a huge (usually highly-distorted) subwoofer pounding away at full blast. It's not about the music, but instead about "hey, look at me!"

By the way, some reviewers have actually scraped their knuckles on those BMW speaker grills when closing or opening the doors due to the decorative punch-outs being so rough-edged. And this is in one of BMW's top-tier products.
 
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I guess I'm missing the point of why you would want to draw visual attention to the speakers in a car. To me, something like that speaker grill in the BMW is the visual equivalent of sitting at a stoplight trying to rattle the doors of nearby cars with a huge (usually highly-distorted) subwoofer pounding away at full blast. It's not about the music, but instead about "hey, look at me!"

By the way, some reviewers have actually scraped their knuckles on those BMW speaker grills when closing or opening the doors due to the decorative punch-outs being so rough-edged. And this is in one of BMW's top-tier products.
My aim was to understand why a speaker in a 120k vehicle look like they came off a 2003 Sienna. Maybe they are metal, I don’t know, so any air owners free free to add detail.
 
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My aim was to understand why a speaker in a 120k vehicle look like they came off a 2003 Sienna. Maybe they are metal, I don’t know, so any air owners free free to add detail.
They don’t. You have an opinion, and that’s fine. I think they look extremely elegant, and far nicer than the German brand equivalents.

You don’t have to feel the same way.
 
Tried adding gravity to the insurance and the quote is very high. When I added lucid air also it was high. Didn’t have time to shop around so continued with it. With clean history for more than 14 years I don’t understand how they come up with this pricing?
 

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Tried adding gravity to the insurance and the quote is very high. When I added lucid air also it was high. Didn’t have time to shop around so continued with it. With clean history for more than 14 years I don’t understand how they come up with this pricing?
I don’t think we are going to have accurate data until we enter a VIN and it auto populates a vehicle. It should end up similar to Rivian R1S.
 
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My aim was to understand why a speaker in a 120k vehicle look like they came off a 2003 Sienna. Maybe they are metal, I don’t know, so any air owners free free to add detail.

I have owned a Lucid Air for over three years. The speaker grills are not metal.

But what is so special about having a metal speaker grill? The few grills that you can see in the Lucid are more smoothly and attractively integrated into the interior design than any metal speaker grill I have ever seen in a car.

As an acknowledged master of obsessing about nits in a car, I have to say that this discussion takes the cake even for me.
 
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I have owned a Lucid Air for over three years. The speaker grills are not metal.

But what is so special about having a metal speaker grill? The few grills that you can see in the Lucid are more smoothly and attractively integrated into the interior design than any metal speaker grill I have ever seen in a car.

As an acknowledged master of obsessing about nits in a car, I have to say that this discussion takes the cake even for me.
I didn’t have a super close view of them nor do I have an Air so I was going by the posted photo. As far as cake, I don’t see how the depth of this discussion is even similar to dry wall.
 
I have owned a Lucid Air for over three years. The speaker grills are not metal.
Wait... there are speakers in the car ????

Oh and the drywall is definitely an important discussion topic. I visit the home center several times / week. I'll only rent the pick-up truck if I absolutely need to. I don't give a hoot if there are speakers in the car or no. The Dolby Pro with Tidal ATMOS is to die for... the music comes from outer space.
 
Tried adding gravity to the insurance and the quote is very high. When I added lucid air also it was high. Didn’t have time to shop around so continued with it. With clean history for more than 14 years I don’t understand how they come up with this pricing?
Hope you never have to find out why the insurance is so high.
 
Tried adding gravity to the insurance and the quote is very high. When I added lucid air also it was high. Didn’t have time to shop around so continued with it. With clean history for more than 14 years I don’t understand how they come up with this pricing?

Hmmm. I wonder if the insurance databases are beginning to accumulate enough data on Lucid repair costs (which can be astronomical) to show up in rates? When I first purchased insurance for the Air over three years ago, State Farm told me they were quoting based on the purchase price because the car wasn't yet in their underwriting database. However, I haven't seen subsequent premium increases out of line with what I've seen on our Tesla and our Honda. I wonder if that will change when I add the Gravity.

Our annual premiums right now are:

2021 Tesla Model S Plaid: $1674.70
2022 Lucid Air Dream Performance: $1753.04
2018 Honda Odyssey: $1646.70

Interestingly, our minivan costs far more to insure as a ratio to purchase price than our two EVs -- despite being 3-4 years older.
 
If Lincoln Aviattor is an SUV, the gravity is a SUV. Simple as that!




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In those two pictures, the Gravity seems to have less ground clearance.
For some, that is reason enough to see it as a minivan.

The Navigator has more ground clearance and is taller with a steeper windshield angle. A boxy look.
Typical of the traditional suv.

Honestly, so may even say "I don't know why. It just looks like a minivan to me".

Gravity has a sleeker look. Some liken it to a sleek wagon. Works for me. Love the Audi Avant look!

In the end, there is no consistent rationale for people's opinion.
Sometimes, we don't even know why we think what we think.
That's the joy of being a human. :)

For me, call it a freaking schoolbus for all I care. I'm getting one!
 
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