Gravity Orders Discussion

[Knucklehead]

Well, if you want a car that falls apart, yes they deliver on that. Lucid is in a different market and doesn't have the luxury of releasing half baked products.

Realistically, the new Model Y is going to dominate the market. Just like the old one did. It is the smart choice for anyone who wants to go electric. Is the Gravity nicer? Absolutely. But $60k nicer?

I actually considered it because financially it is the smart decision. But I want a Gravity. (Or a Rivian.) And I can afford one. But really, the new Y is everything I need. So many people will get one because they come to the same conclusion. (And the self driving is off the charts great. Nobody matches that at any price point.)

You obviously hate Tesla, but most people are more pragmatic and will buy the car that fits their needs best. So unfortunately Lucid and Rivian are at a serious disadvantage - if you take the irrational emotions out of it.

 

[borski]

Oh at this point I wouldn’t put it past them to say dark clouds or some scary crows flying over AMP-1 are holding up deliveries. Regardless, It will no doubt be everyone else’s fault except Lucid’s.

Dementors. They’re sucking everyone’s soul.

 

[borski]

Thank you! I need to brush up on my calendar skills.

I recommend computers for that

 

[borski]

Realistically, the new Model Y is going to dominate the market. Just like the old one did. It is the smart choice for anyone who wants to go electric. Is the Gravity nicer? Absolutely. But $60k nicer?

No chance. I’d much rather get an Ioniq 5 or EV6 in that price range.

I actually considered it because financially it is the smart decision. But I want a Gravity. (Or a Rivian.) And I can afford one. But really, the new Y is everything I need. So many people will get one because they come to the same conclusion. (And the self driving is off the charts great. Nobody matches that at any price point.)

There are plenty of better options than the Y. I do not think it will sell like hotcakes.

You obviously hate Tesla, but most people are more pragmatic and will buy the car that fits their needs best. So unfortunately Lucid and Rivian are at a serious disadvantage - if you take the irrational emotions out of it.

I don’t hate Tesla. I actually love Tesla. That’s why it pains me to see them headless and completely devoid of any serious market-moving innovation over more than a decade.

I want Tesla to kick ass. I really do. I want all of these American EV companies to kick ass.

I just wish Tesla was; that’s all. And because it isn’t, Hyundai/Kia and similar is going to eat Tesla’s lunch, *especially* in Europe.

 

[Knucklehead]

No chance. I’d much rather get an Ioniq 5 or EV6 in that price range.


There are plenty of better options than the Y. I do not think it will sell like hotcakes.


I don’t hate Tesla. I actually love Tesla. That’s why it pains me to see them headless and completely devoid of any serious market-moving innovation over more than a decade.

I want Tesla to kick ass. I really do. I want all of these American EV companies to kick ass.

I just wish Tesla was; that’s all. And because it isn’t, Hyundai/Kia and similar is going to eat Tesla’s lunch, *especially* in Europe.

People who have the full self driving are raving about it.

You can get a new Y with full self driving for $60k. Great range and the absolute best charging network. The old Y was not very attractive but to me the new Y looks so much better. They fit 3 rows in the old Y and I expect they will in the new one as well. (Tow hitch is standard equipment. Not a big deal to some, but exactly what I want.)

IMO it is a huge improvement over the old model, which I believe was the best selling car in the world?

Anyway, you could be right. The competition is very good.

 

[joec]

People who have the full self driving are raving about it.

You can get a new Y with full self driving for $60k. Great range and the absolute best charging network. The old Y was not very attractive but to me the new Y looks so much better. They fit 3 rows in the old Y and I expect they will in the new one as well. (Tow hitch is standard equipment. Not a big deal to some, but exactly what I want.)

IMO it is a huge improvement over the old model, which I believe was the best selling car in the world?

Anyway, you could be right. The competition is very good.

The Y has always been the ugliest Tesla. The new refresh doesn’t help. The headlights getting smaller just enhances the fact the car is vertically stretched in an unpleasant way. Proportions are still all out of whack. And it’s their worst handling car as well.

But it is their best seller, because the price and the form factor are what people want.

There’s so much more competition now and coming soon. I would not bet on a modest redesign moving the needle much on sales. It’ll do fine. Don’t get me wrong. I just don’t see it taking the world by storm.