Gravity Orders Discussion

[Adnillien]

Just to clear it up for the rest of us, did you get that gold model or the actual Gravity (or both)?

I received the speedform which is actually more bronze than the picture shows it. I am not an insider, so no real Gravity for me.

 

[xponents]

I am not an insider, so no real Gravity for me.

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But gee, that gold speed form looks great! I want a 1:18 model of the Air so badly... I'd pay good money for it just to display it.

Do you think that might be the Supernova Bronze color (maybe unlikely, but you said it looked different in person)?

 

[Sid432]

I am honored that Lucid invited me to the first Gravity deliver event. I did receive a Gravity yesterday! As we say on the forum, pictures or it did not happen.
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I called it first...

 

[Adnillien]

@hmp10 - I had a good discussion with Eric Bach on Gravity tires. His take is the Hankooks are the best all around performing tire that Lucid has tested. It does well in snow, rain, cold hot and off-road. He is buying at set of the 20/21's for his Gravity to use on road trips. He is also buying a set of the 22/23's summer tires for performance and handling around town. If you want the best handling and performance, the 22/23's are it. The best all around tire is the Hankooks. His comments made the Hankooks the obvious choice for my needs. He did not comment on the front to rear diameter but was adament about the performance improvement of the stagerred width front to rear.

 

[Adnillien]

I asked a couple of the senior Lucid team about Gravity charging at 500V Tesla chargers and the response was the Lucid has a novel approach to enabling fast charging from a 500V charger to 900V battery. They would not provide details but I would not be surprised to see a tech talk video on it someday. I think the phrase "Compromise Nothing" may apply here.

 

[borski]

@hmp10 - I had a good discussion with Eric Bach on Gravity tires. His take is the Hankooks are the best all around performing tire that Lucid has tested. It does well in snow, rain, cold hot and off-road. He is buying at set of the 20/21's for his Gravity to use on road trips. He is also buying a set of the 22/23's summer tires for performance and handling around town. If you want the best handling and performance, the 22/23's are it. The best all around tire is the Hankooks. His comments made the Hankooks the obvious choice for my needs. He did not comment on the front to rear diameter but was adament about the performance improvement of the stagerred width front to rear.

Damn it why is Emad going to make me buy two sets of wheels. At least the gravity can carry them

I have to take pics of the 19s for my Air and sell them when I’m home, anyway. If anyone is interested, DM me. I hope, at this point, you know I’m good for it. (but I won’t post in the marketplace until I have photos, because I am not above the rules ) - please DM only, this doesn’t belong on this thread so I am breaking that rule, I’m sorry.

 

[hmp10]

@hmp10 - I had a good discussion with Eric Bach on Gravity tires. His take is the Hankooks are the best all around performing tire that Lucid has tested. It does well in snow, rain, cold hot and off-road. He is buying at set of the 20/21's for his Gravity to use on road trips. He is also buying a set of the 22/23's summer tires for performance and handling around town. If you want the best handling and performance, the 22/23's are it. The best all around tire is the Hankooks. His comments made the Hankooks the obvious choice for my needs. He did not comment on the front to rear diameter but was adament about the performance improvement of the stagerred width front to rear.

Thanks for the info. I've never had any doubts about the benefit of staggered widths and have had them on many (most) of my cars. It's the staggered diameter that perplexes me a bit. I assumed Lucid did it for a reason on the Sapphire and suspected that reason had to do with the demands of rear torque vectoring using power instead of braking. Thus I first assumed the staggered diameter on the Gravity had something to do with rear wheel steering. But then that answer Kyle Conner got about its being mostly for cosmetics really left me scratching my head.

I'm curious about all the deliveries being Aurora Green. Did everyone who got a car yesterday actually select that color, or is that all they're producing at this point? The only other color I've seen the Gravity in is the Lunar Titanium, but it's still marked "late availability" on the order configurator.

Also, did all the cars delivered have the Tahoe interior?

Finally, would it be useful to move the contents starting with the recent deliveries to its own thread? I thought about starting a thread myself but wouldn't want for the comments already posted not to be included.

 

[Adnillien]

Also, did all the cars delivered have the Tahoe interior?

There was Yosemite also but most were Tahoe.

 

[hmp10]

Still curious about wheels. Could any of you guys who have contacts with the Lucid higher-ups inquire whether any characteristics of the different wheels (especially aerodynamics) bear on the 51-mile range spread, or does it come down mostly to tires?

I remember that many moons ago Derek Jenkins said they chose not to put aero inserts on the largest wheels because they really didn't make that much of a difference in range. I'm just having trouble thinking that there is a 51-mile difference between the Hankooks and the Pirellis, especially if the Pirelliis are part of the ELECT series. I say this because the 2-inch diameter difference in wheels available on our Air (19" vs 21") only yields a 20-mile range difference, and that is with the rear tires being wider on the Air while the Gravity has the same tire widths across all three wheel options.

 

[hmp10]

P. S. Sorry to get back on this wheel jag again. I'll assume that if any of you moderators can ask the question at Lucid and get an answer, you'll pass it along. Meanwhile, I'll try to leave it alone.

 

[hydbob]

Thanks for the info. I've never had any doubts about the benefit of staggered widths and have had them on many (most) of my cars. It's the staggered diameter that perplexes me a bit. I assumed Lucid did it for a reason on the Sapphire and suspected that reason had to do with the demands of rear torque vectoring using power instead of braking. Thus I first assumed the staggered diameter on the Gravity had something to do with rear wheel steering. But then that answer Kyle Conner got about its being mostly for cosmetics really left me scratching my head.

I'm curious about all the deliveries being Aurora Green. Did everyone who got a car yesterday actually select that color, or is that all they're producing at this point? The only other color I've seen the Gravity in is the Lunar Titanium, but it's still marked "late availability" on the order configurator.

Also, did all the cars delivered have the Tahoe interior?

Finally, would it be useful to move the contents starting with the recent deliveries to its own thread? I thought about starting a thread myself but wouldn't want for the comments already posted not to be included.

They've produced black and white ones as well.

 

[Sid432]

They've produced black and white ones as well.

So, those are already ready to go to the studios ? Any news on when the reviewers will get it for first hand review ?

 

[Pragmatic]

Larger diameter with a lower profile (for similar diameters) causes a more disruption in the air flow. Think of the air going around a flat rectangle as opposed to a square. The larger diameter also leaves more space between the caliper and the wheel further disturbing the air.

Add to this, tread patterns can change aerodynamic tire drag by 8%.

 

[Babyrocko1908]

So, the deliveries are for employees, friends and families first. So, I think no actual owners got it.
The next iteration is for studio's for test drives then it would be actual owners...

Then, I am wondering who the friends are.....

There were at least 2 of the 9 deliveries that were actual customers.

 

[Babyrocko1908]

I am honored that Lucid invited me to the first Gravity delivery event. I did receive a Gravity yesterday! As we say on the forum, pictures or it did not happen.
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Your speedform is a different color than mine! Did you get a black beanie instead of a grey one?

 

[Amster]

There were at least 2 of the 9 deliveries that were actual customers.

Yours?

 

[Babyrocko1908]

Yours?

No, but I know the two actual owners.

 

[Sid432]

No, but I know the two actual owners.

So, were you invited to the event ? Aren’t you from East Coast ?

 

[Babyrocko1908]

So, were you invited to the event ? Aren’t you from East Coast ?

Yes, I was one of the the invitees and yes, I live way out on the East Coast.

 

[hmp10]

Larger diameter with a lower profile (for similar diameters) causes a more disruption in the air flow. Think of the air going around a flat rectangle as opposed to a square. The larger diameter also leaves more space between the caliper and the wheel further disturbing the air.

Add to this, tread patterns can change aerodynamic tire drag by 8%.

Yes, but those factors also apply to the 19" vs. the 21" wheels on the Air, and there is only a 20-mile range difference . . . despite the rear tires on the 21" wheels being 20mm wider, thus increasing both the contact patch and aerodynamic drag over the 19" rear tires. And that 2-inch diameter increase on the smaller Air wheels is actually a greater percentage difference than the 1-inch diameter increase as you move through the Gravity wheel options.

And this still doesn't explain why Lucid chose to put larger diameter wheels on all three wheel options, not just the more performance-oriented largest wheel set.