Well, I will say this for Blueice...he is certainly far from the only one playing this game. Chacha, you're right up there, too. More frustrating, we seem to have an influx of folks who are more covert in their motives. I'm still trying to figure out the point of posting an old picture of a pre-pro car with the thread title "Santa Cruz interior after 10 minutes." Someone else posted a photo of a Zenith Red lucid that clearly was not a genuine photo and passed it off as theirs. It's definitely concerning that the stock bros (and gals) are trying to influence behavior and comments on this board now. It's really going to detract from the real value...real people, giving real opinions and facts about cars they actually own and drive.