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Amen to that!
Actually just did a quick scan of member ages on these forums and found a surprising distribution from 30s to 70s. Of course, your point focused the likely age distribution of Lucid designers/engineers.

No question that access, egress for tall and/or senior drivers will take some getting use to. But, I suspect those of us with those characteristics will accommodate!
 

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But, I suspect those of us with those characteristics will accommodate!

We will, up to the point we can. I've already developed the motor memory to contort just right to enter and exit the front seat and reach the front door handle to close it. I'm almost there with getting into and out of the back seat, but the motor memory is coming slower because I use the back seat less often and the required contortions are more extreme.
 

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We will, up to the point we can. I've already developed the motor memory to contort just right to enter and exit the front seat and reach the front door handle to close it. I'm almost there with getting into and out of the back seat, but the motor memory is coming slower because I use the back seat less often and the required contortions are more extreme.
"Contortions" might seem extreme to some, but I have to agree. Accommodation and adaptation -- more for some than for others. It will work out!
 

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The older you get your pupils don't dialte as much and are slower to react. Night driving can become an issue looking at the light and back to a dark road. I won't know for several months. I had a chance to sit in a pre-production today at the Studio in Oak Brook. I've started my observations in the New Member from Oak Brook thread.
 

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The older you get your pupils don't dialte as much and are slower to react. Night driving can become an issue looking at the light and back to a dark road. I won't know for several months. I had a chance to sit in a pre-production today at the Studio in Oak Brook. I've started my observations in the New Member from Oak Brook thread.
So you are saying getting older is like an organ recital ( this organ hurts, this organ is on the fritz etcetc) getting there myself but don’t have the night blindness yet thank God. Hopefully Lucid will transition to level 3+self driving over the next few years with that huge suite of sensors/ cameras they have installed.
 

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So you are saying getting older is like an organ recital ( this organ hurts, this organ is on the fritz etcetc) getting there myself but don’t have the night blindness yet thank God. Hopefully Lucid will transition to level 3+self driving over the next few years with that huge suite of sensors/ cameras they have installed.

I was just laughing with another man about you don't pass up a bathroom, LOL
 

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I can’t begin to imagine the brakes won’t hold at a stop even when depressed. That would be a huge safety issue. I’m sure he’s talking about firmly pressing the brake and then lifting his foot off the pedal. As Harrison mentioned, he must not have activated the hold assist function.

As more reviews are posted, we get a better, more rounded picture of the car. As an example, unless I missed it in other reviews, I don’t recall reading about compromised visibility as the result of the thick A pillars in combination with the slope of the windshield.
I noticed the visibility issue on my test drive, as our route took us close to my normal daily commute so I just took it that way to see and feel the differences. There was one spot coming off an exit where I could not see incoming traffic on the right. That said, when I got back in my S, I checked the pillars and noticed they look to be the same size, so I chalked it up to seat positioning. I'll know more once I get my car.
 

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From my seat position I feel the Lucid has good visibility. I have had the “brake hold” release on its own a few times and the car started rolling back. First time or two I thought maybe I touched the accelerator, but now I think it is releasing on its own for some other unknown reason. I do have it set to “hold”.
 

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From my seat position I feel the Lucid has good visibility. I have had the “brake hold” release on its own a few times and the car started rolling back. First time or two I thought maybe I touched the accelerator, but now I think it is releasing on its own for some other unknown reason. I do have it set to “hold”.

Is brake hold something different than pressing brake pedal down?
 

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Is brake hold something different than pressing brake pedal down?
The brake hold is when you stop, either via regen or actually braking, it'll hold that stop for you without you needing to press on the brake. This is the only way to truly do 1 pedal driving.
 

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The brake hold is when you stop, either via regen or actually braking, it'll hold that stop for you without you needing to press on the brake. This is the only way to truly do 1 pedal driving.

Gotcha, I don't know if I'd ever get used to using that.
 

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Gotcha, I don't know if I'd ever get used to using that.
This is my first EV and 1 pedal driving felt natural almost immediately. Regeneration slows the car so much the brakes are not always necessary. How often the brakes will be needed of course will vary with driving styles and environment.
 

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After driving the Lucid Air Dream Performance for a month, I've now returned to driving the Tesla Model S Plaid daily while the Air is at the Service Center. My perspective on the two cars is becoming more evolved.

I'm going to leave out software features for now in comparing the two cars, as the Air's software is still half-baked, at best.

There are some things I like about the Plaid more (in descending order of significance to me):

- the Google satellite image displayed on a huge screen
- navigation routes overlaid on that satellite image
- a better front center console storage arrangement
- quicker acceleration and less feeling of getting a large mass underway
- more accessible wireless phone charging pads and charging for two front phones
- charge port opening upon approach of charge cable

There are more things I like about the Air more:

- a steering wheel
- signal and gearshift control stalks
- a much airier, roomier, and more luxurious interior
- vastly more rear legroom
- manual switches for volume and A/C control
- more comfortable and better-featured front seats
- a more compliant ride
- a more solid-feeling structure
- quieter
- front end more planted under hard acceleration
- manual air vent controls
- a dedicated one-touch panel for controlling lights, wipers, locks
- better exterior and interior fit and finish

As much as I like the Plaid, at the end of the day it is simply a lesser car than the Air Dream. You feel it when driving, riding in, and looking at the two cars.
 

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Do you think that the DE is worth ~$40K more than the Plaid?
 

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After driving the Lucid Air Dream Performance for a month, I've now returned to driving the Tesla Model S Plaid daily while the Air is at the Service Center. My perspective on the two cars is becoming more evolved.

I'm going to leave out software features for now in comparing the two cars, as the Air's software is still half-baked, at best.

There are some things I like about the Plaid more (in descending order of significance to me):

- the Google satellite image displayed on a huge screen
- navigation routes overlaid on that satellite image
- a better front center console storage arrangement
- quicker acceleration and less feeling of getting a large mass underway
- more accessible wireless phone charging pads and charging for two front phones
- charge port opening upon approach of charge cable

There are more things I like about the Air more:

- a steering wheel
- signal and gearshift control stalks
- a much airier, roomier, and more luxurious interior
- vastly more rear legroom
- manual switches for volume and A/C control
- more comfortable and better-featured front seats
- a more compliant ride
- a more solid-feeling structure
- quieter
- front end more planted under hard acceleration
- manual air vent controls
- a dedicated one-touch panel for controlling lights, wipers, locks
- better exterior and interior fit and finish

As much as I like the Plaid, at the end of the day it is simply a lesser car than the Air Dream. You feel it when driving, riding in, and looking at the two cars.
Not having driven a Plaid, does it have driving modes besides normal and track? And do you feel the same even with the air in swift or sprint regarding getting the mass moving?
 

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After driving the Lucid Air Dream Performance for a month, I've now returned to driving the Tesla Model S Plaid daily while the Air is at the Service Center. My perspective on the two cars is becoming more evolved.

I'm going to leave out software features for now in comparing the two cars, as the Air's software is still half-baked, at best.

There are some things I like about the Plaid more (in descending order of significance to me):

- the Google satellite image displayed on a huge screen
- navigation routes overlaid on that satellite image
- a better front center console storage arrangement
- quicker acceleration and less feeling of getting a large mass underway
- more accessible wireless phone charging pads and charging for two front phones
- charge port opening upon approach of charge cable

There are more things I like about the Air more:

- a steering wheel
- signal and gearshift control stalks
- a much airier, roomier, and more luxurious interior
- vastly more rear legroom
- manual switches for volume and A/C control
- more comfortable and better-featured front seats
- a more compliant ride
- a more solid-feeling structure
- quieter
- front end more planted under hard acceleration
- manual air vent controls
- a dedicated one-touch panel for controlling lights, wipers, locks
- better exterior and interior fit and finish

As much as I like the Plaid, at the end of the day it is simply a lesser car than the Air Dream. You feel it when driving, riding in, and looking at the two cars.

Very helpful. Thanks for sharing. I still sometimes debate is the AGT worth it or should I just grab a Plaid and customize everything I don't like about it. It ends up being a circular argument and I end up saying the AGT is all-in the better option once I factor all elements in.
 
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