12 Months In, and I'm Out.

[FurryOne]

Tesla is an OK car with stable software...not the most user friendly. Usability is bad with present Tesla- no stalks....get the picture now?

Hmmm...just ok? I had a squeaky control arm and Tesla replaced both with new design units. That's it, period, in 5-1/2 years of ownership. Stalks or no stalks are a user preference, but to say Tesla's usability is bad is just ludicrous.

 

[FurryOne]

Because you are paid…get a Tesla and know what Lucid should be…..10 years from now

Even as a Tesla owner I think that's a pretty crappy comment. I love driving my Tesla (That I bought before Elon went crazy.), but it's more of a utilitarian car than a luxury car. (But then it's also 1/2 the cost of a Lucid.)

 

[Blue Lectroid]

I'm here because I'm considering an AT or AGT when I replace my '19 Tesla M3. That being said, I use FSD almost every time I drive, and it's pretty damned solid. And if you close your eyes, FSD will shut off, so no, you can't nap even if you try. Maybe Lucid will approach Tesla in software someday.

I just replaced my Tesla M3P with a 2025 Lucid Air GT. I agree with you about Tesla's current version of FSD...it has become quite solid. If this is a "must have," then Lucid is probably not the right move for you as it is meant to be more of a "driver's car." Dream Drive's Highway Assist is essentially akin to Tesla's Autopilot. There are not currently plans at Lucid to go beyond Level 3 Driver's Assist on highways.

All of this being said, in my first four days of owning my Air GT I have completely rediscovered my passion for driving. I have owned a long list of enthusiast cars over the years (including BMW's, Audi's, Ferraris, Alfa's) and originally bought my Tesla M3P as a "practical" enthusiast car and it gave me a lot of joy early on. However, the more and more autonomous features that were added, the less and less engaging it became as a driver's car. Elon firmly believes that humans should not be driving -- that the car should do it for us. That is definitely one approach and it has made him the richest man in the World, so it's not mine to judge, for sure.

Lucid's ethos is to build a car that is best in class for those who want to DRIVE the car and occasionally want some assistance on long, monotonous road trips, not to create a door-to-door autonomous driving experience. The build quality, ride and driving enjoyment from my new Air GT bears no resemblance to my Tesla M3P. To me it is superior in EVERY way (except autonomous driving)...I even significantly prefer the UI / software in the Lucid.

 

[Batteryman]

Hmmm...just ok? I had a squeaky control arm and Tesla replaced both with new design units. That's it, period, in 5-1/2 years of ownership. Stalks or no stalks are a user preference, but to say Tesla's usability is bad is just ludicrous.

Go drive a model 3 with no stalks, dumbest idea in a car after the yoke steering wheel. I tried to get service for my model 3 due to battery warning, you can only text to a bot, no human to interact with- gives me appointment in 1 month- so I don’t use the car for a month? And no one to talk to at Tesla- just plain pathetic….

And the model 3, rattles like a rattlesnake….cheaply built…that’s why Tesla margins are so high, they cheap out, don’t care about safety.

Hey, but I have FSD which can kill you…..

 

[Batteryman]

Even as a Tesla owner I think that's a pretty crappy comment. I love driving my Tesla (That I bought before Elon went crazy.), but it's more of a utilitarian car than a luxury car. (But then it's also 1/2 the cost of a Lucid.)

Half the cost shows….squeak, squeak…..

 

[HC_79]

Half the cost shows….squeak, squeak…..

Careful….. I’ve just had my 3rd service trying to get rid of annoying creaking. People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

 

[borski]

Careful….. I’ve just had my 3rd service trying to get rid of annoying creaking. People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

I hear you, but it’s not even close to the same. Every time I ride in an M3 or MS it’s rattle city all around me.

The Air May have *a* rattle in the parcel shelf or a bit of creak in the steering wheel (mine has neither) but the whole car doesn’t sound like it’s groaning whenever it tries to move lol

 

[William Nation]

I am coming up on 12 Months with my car. Almost 10K miles in the Philly area. 2023 AT.

Looking back, this has been THE worst purchase of my life. I was holding out hope after my terrible sales experience that things would get better. But the truth is there hasn't been one month, or even two weeks, where the car worked as advertised or expected.

First with the ordering and delivery experience: terrible communication about dropping off my car at my house vs me driving hours to NY to pick up. They changed delivery dates and times with no warning. And reaching out to them was incredibly difficult. The car was eventually delivered hours after the expected time in a cold and dark parking lot where I could not properly inspect the vehicle. But whatever. I was excited to finally have this car.

Ever since then, there has been an issue every single month.

In the first month, the suspension has a bolt that wasn't tightened to spec, causing a rattling noise whenever it went over the slightest bump. That was eventually fixed.

There was also a rattling sound in the back seat with every bump. Multiple service appts later I was told they didn't hear anything or they replaced something that didnt fix the issue. Now, 11 months later, it is being serviced with a bad parcel shelf and an issue with the rear shade apparatus. The foam suggestion never worked for me.

Then one of the car door handles wouldn't release with the remote, and there is another service appointment.

Then there was the flat tire (not Lucids fault, just bad luck).

Then, my key fob stopped working after a month. I wonder to myself...it CAN'T be the battery...it's a brand new car.

As we all know, it is the battery. I now have more button batteries than I ever cared to own in my life, stashed in my garage,y glove box, my kitchen, and my work locker. And now I need to have a Faraday box or pouch for the remote to my 100K car not to die every 2 weeks.

Scheduled charging NEVER worked consistently. Bob and others have explicit instructions on how to remedy it but it STILL won't charge reliably.

About twice a week I have open and close the driver door multiple times to get the soft close to work and register as the door being closed.

My Lucid Home Charger, professionally installed through QMerit, never worked through my Internet connection and can't reliably get to interface, despite me buying a new mesh point specifically for my charger.

The app is terrible, And only slightly improved in terms of connectivity with the recent update.

Loaner #1 during service had non-functional cameras for parking or reversing. The drunk hydraulics wouldn't open so that became manual.

Loaner #2, just dropped off yesterday, had parking system and rear brake faults on my first drive to work. The pilot panel was stuck in the recessed position and resetting the car did nothing. The screen ended up resetting itself during my ride to work and I thought I was clear. Then after work the pilot panel and the screen above it were completely black and non responsive despite car resets. And then on the ride home, the car reset the screen itself, and then slowly dimmed to black and unresponsive again. It did that THREE times on its own during a 20 minute commute. Now it won't turn on at all and I can't open the glove box that has important documents and emergency cash in it.

These are all mostly minor things, but this is death by 1000 papercuts.

When the car works, it is fantastic. It is pretty. It is smooth. It is fast and responsive. It is fun to drive.

But my car never works.

And now I have to wait 6-8 weeks for a mobile appointment or service center appointment.

I am truly, truly envious and jealous of those who have working vehicles and haven't had to experience this nightmare.

After this last experience with this loaner, I am out.

I already paid down half of the car and will pay off the rest in the next 6 months and dump it in favor of some other EV. I own thousands of stock that I will also partly dump, as I am almost positive that Gravity, while pretty and exciting, will have its own host of problems. That 6-8 week service time will undoubtedly double when it is eventually released. I'll hold on to some stock in the rare chance Lucid turns this around.

I was so excited about this car, and I am incredibly disappointed.

I'm done.

I

 

[FurryOne]

I hear you, but it’s not even close to the same. Every time I ride in an M3 or MS it’s rattle city all around me.

Then again, my 6-yr old M3 has no squeaks. It does occasionally not recognize my iPhone, requiring use of the app, or a tap on a door knob to jog its memory. I've spec'd out an AT I'd like, but with all the software problems people have I think it's best if I wait to see if 2026 improves reliability & software, especially since Lucid (like Tesla) thinks that people that can afford an Air only live around NYC (Tesla has since located a Service Center 45m away, and a drop-off point 10m away from me.)

 

[CraZ8]

I suppose this boils down to your level of expectation and patience. I went in knowing that a new car company would have teething pains. Software 1.0 was bad, the multiple flats I had on 21s were disconcerting, and two batteries one front drive unit and one door handle were annoying. However the past 3 years have been on balance enjoyable and rewarding so much so I’m waiting for my Gravity sometime this fall. Will it be perfect? Probably not but I bet it will be better than my GT due to all the lessons Lucid has learned.

 

[borski]

Then again, my 6-yr old M3 has no squeaks. It does occasionally not recognize my iPhone, requiring use of the app, or a tap on a door knob to jog its memory. I've spec'd out an AT I'd like, but with all the software problems people have I think it's best if I wait to see if 2026 improves reliability & software, especially since Lucid (like Tesla) thinks that people that can afford an Air only live around NYC (Tesla has since located a Service Center 45m away, and a drop-off point 10m away from me.)

As with everything: YMMV. My experience in Model 3s doesn’t mean yours will be the same, but the same holds true for the software bugs, etc.

Test drive one.

 

[Hbaeuerle]

Interesting, after owning 2 Tesla Model S for the last couple of years and having my fair share of issues, I decided to see them and given lucid a try. This time I leased it, unfortunately, I'm returning mine due to some of the same issues your having plus more. Scheduled charging is a nightmare, radio plays multiple sources/channels at the same time, camera faulty errors, truck not closed error, charging equipment error and not to mention the range. It's better than Tesla model S, stated miles of 394, I usually don't break even 300 on a full charge. Key fobs and phone keys have lots of issues, mostly they don't work. Have several tickets into lucid and they had the car in the shop for almost 3 weeks. Largely said they couldn't replicate the problem and returned the car without fixing anything. I'm feed up with these EV that charge more than premium with promises of having features rather than actual advertised features. Lucid financial services as well as their customer have been pretty non responsive to inquiry about early lease termination. Perhaps my expectations are to high for an EV. I'm going back to my BMW 535d, not only it drives better, basic things work on it. EV's are obviously faster, but I trade all the other daily headaches for a slight slower car.

Where you able to terminate your lease early? Did you have the pay the remaining balances?

 

[Hbaeuerle]

I am coming up on 12 Months with my car. Almost 10K miles in the Philly area. 2023 AT.

Looking back, this has been THE worst purchase of my life. I was holding out hope after my terrible sales experience that things would get better. But the truth is there hasn't been one month, or even two weeks, where the car worked as advertised or expected.

First with the ordering and delivery experience: terrible communication about dropping off my car at my house vs me driving hours to NY to pick up. They changed delivery dates and times with no warning. And reaching out to them was incredibly difficult. The car was eventually delivered hours after the expected time in a cold and dark parking lot where I could not properly inspect the vehicle. But whatever. I was excited to finally have this car.

Ever since then, there has been an issue every single month.

In the first month, the suspension has a bolt that wasn't tightened to spec, causing a rattling noise whenever it went over the slightest bump. That was eventually fixed.

There was also a rattling sound in the back seat with every bump. Multiple service appts later I was told they didn't hear anything or they replaced something that didnt fix the issue. Now, 11 months later, it is being serviced with a bad parcel shelf and an issue with the rear shade apparatus. The foam suggestion never worked for me.

Then one of the car door handles wouldn't release with the remote, and there is another service appointment.

Then there was the flat tire (not Lucids fault, just bad luck).

Then, my key fob stopped working after a month. I wonder to myself...it CAN'T be the battery...it's a brand new car.

As we all know, it is the battery. I now have more button batteries than I ever cared to own in my life, stashed in my garage,y glove box, my kitchen, and my work locker. And now I need to have a Faraday box or pouch for the remote to my 100K car not to die every 2 weeks.

Scheduled charging NEVER worked consistently. Bob and others have explicit instructions on how to remedy it but it STILL won't charge reliably.

About twice a week I have open and close the driver door multiple times to get the soft close to work and register as the door being closed.

My Lucid Home Charger, professionally installed through QMerit, never worked through my Internet connection and can't reliably get to interface, despite me buying a new mesh point specifically for my charger.

The app is terrible, And only slightly improved in terms of connectivity with the recent update.

Loaner #1 during service had non-functional cameras for parking or reversing. The drunk hydraulics wouldn't open so that became manual.

Loaner #2, just dropped off yesterday, had parking system and rear brake faults on my first drive to work. The pilot panel was stuck in the recessed position and resetting the car did nothing. The screen ended up resetting itself during my ride to work and I thought I was clear. Then after work the pilot panel and the screen above it were completely black and non responsive despite car resets. And then on the ride home, the car reset the screen itself, and then slowly dimmed to black and unresponsive again. It did that THREE times on its own during a 20 minute commute. Now it won't turn on at all and I can't open the glove box that has important documents and emergency cash in it.

These are all mostly minor things, but this is death by 1000 papercuts.

When the car works, it is fantastic. It is pretty. It is smooth. It is fast and responsive. It is fun to drive.

But my car never works.

And now I have to wait 6-8 weeks for a mobile appointment or service center appointment.

I am truly, truly envious and jealous of those who have working vehicles and haven't had to experience this nightmare.

After this last experience with this loaner, I am out.

I already paid down half of the car and will pay off the rest in the next 6 months and dump it in favor of some other EV. I own thousands of stock that I will also partly dump, as I am almost positive that Gravity, while pretty and exciting, will have its own host of problems. That 6-8 week service time will undoubtedly double when it is eventually released. I'll hold on to some stock in the rare chance Lucid turns this around.

I was so excited about this car, and I am incredibly disappointed.

I'm done.

I luve in the Philly area as well and use the KOP service centers. my main issue with Lucid are the very few approved repair shops. The one i used was the worst experience I’ve had jn decades. Also repair costs are Astronomical.. the app does suck and key fob batteries die faster than i can keep up. When i drive the car its more fun than I ever had but i am now constantly worried about accidents.. took 3 months to fix a door panel.. no thank you.