Gravity test drive

TahoeMichael said:

I think society will insist on autonomous vehicles proving they're much safer than a human driver. Our tolerance for robots accidentally killing people is probably much lower than our tolerance for humans doing so.

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jered said:

This is where the Waymo statistics really shine: https://waymo.com/safety/impact/

Since this is a fully driverless system, these numbers aren't cooked in the same way as Tesla's are. These are miles on city streets and highways, and normalized for drive type. Really impressive stuff. Also a long way from being available everywhere, or being available on a personal vehicle.

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borski said:

This is probably true, tbh. We didn’t have issues with our key fob - if you look at the center console, there’s a little indent where they intend for you store the key fob while you drive. You don’t have to do that though.

If it doesn’t recognize the key fob (which it did for us maybe twice in like four months, because we had left it sitting idle for a while), the car tells you simply to shake the key fob slightly to wake it up. Sometimes I’d just hit the unlock button or the lock and unlock button.

Basically, the key fob eventually falls asleep if left idle, to save battery. Moving it or pressing any button wakes it up.

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JeffSter said:

Future fob update… rechargable fob with charger built into car or apple watch style magnet at home…

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TahoeMichael said:

I don't understand why key fobs are hard. Isn't this a solved problem, for many years now? The fob for my Toyota is quite compact, the battery lasts for years, the only circumstance it's ever failed me is from that battery wearing out, at which point the fob still has a key folded into it. I hope the Gravity is dramatically improved from the Air in this regard.

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DeaneG said:

They just chose the wrong vendor.
Gravity's key system is all new, unrelated to the Air's.

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TahoeMichael said:

I think if Tesla didn't have their somewhat ambiguous marketing that tends to oversell FSD as being autonomous driving, then you might not find so many people pushing back against it. As an ADAS system, it's pretty good. There are some concerning incidents of it misbehaving too rapidly and severely for the driver to seize control. But to be fair, those incidents seem to be very rare. As an engineer, I prefer my life-critical systems to have more of a safety-first engineering approach than Tesla has taken. But I know not everyone sees it the way I do.

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