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Xminus6 said:
I believe what he described is exactly what it is. I seem to remember seeing something in a video that is basically a “Birds Eye view” type feature that we see for parking but it actually remembers the surface of what your car has driven over and renders it rather than the photo of the car. It actually shows you what is under your car. I presume it has to have been moving for it to work obviously.
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I agree, but the "enhanced 3D surround" statement had me wondering how is that any different from 3D Surround View Monitoring.

Your recollection of the "Birds Eye view" reminds me of seeing/hearing the same.
So, what differentiates See-through Vehicle Display from 3D Surround View Monitoring since they both are listed seperately in the DD2 Premium and above features?

Here's my take, not the best wording, but it's helps me with the distinctions:
  • 3D Surround View Monitoring: Uses the exterior cameras to display the immediate vehicle surroundings; assists in parking and exits.
  • See-through Vehicle Display: Uses exterior cameras and sensors to provide a Birds Eye view of the car while also providing a rendered display through the car to the surface below.
One day we all will know the full answer!
 
I think in Surround View you can use your finger to rotate the display keeping your car in the center. So it’s not like a “normal” overhead view, which has a camera locked directly above your car.
 
Bdr100 said:
I believe that See-Through Display has nothing to do with HUD but rather is an enhanced 3D surround where you can see what is under the vehicle. I guess so you can see that the family cat crawled under it during the night and don’t back over it. 🤣

Actually, I think is more intended for off-road slow crawling over obstacles.
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This is what I believe it is also. I wish I could remember where I saw it, maybe it was LinkedIn, but Lucid is marketing it as the ability to see under the car. There was not much more about it, so I am not sure if that means under the edges of the car, or actually a view of the entire surface under the car. Seems like they would need cameras under the car to do that.

I got the impression it is supposed to help with seeing curbs and avoiding hitting them. Which just means the cameras have a better angle to see slightly in front and behind the tires. Not all the way under the car.
 
I think it is simpler than that. As you are driving, it is remembering what the ground looks like as you drive over it--so from the front cameras when driving forward, and the rear cameras when driving in reverse. From that it creates a picture of what's now under the car--but was in front of, or behind, the car when you were driving.

So it's not going to show you if a cat snuck under the car. But it would help with where the curbs are, maneuvering around potholes, etc.

(I, too, am sure I've seen this demonstrated, but I don't remember what video it was in.)
 
You are correct, the vehicle must be moving forward for this effect to work. I have it in our EQS 580 SUV.
 
Found the video that mentions See-through Vehicle.
Couldn't give up the search. I knew I had seen it somewhere.
At the 6:06 mark of this video review.

Doesn't provide much detail.
Details "coming soon" or the feature itself.

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Ron_Burgundy said:
Probably the wrong thread, but since DD was mentioned, why doesn’t Lucid just license Tesla’s AP software? Lucid is YEARs away from Tesla’s FSD functionality and as an owner, I’d prefer Lucid focus on other software tools when there’s an FSD out there that’s already really great. Don’t hate on me. I have a Tesla, Rivian and Lucid AT so am sensitive to the comparisons.
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Do you mean license Autopilot? Or license FSD? It's not clear from your post, and they're not the same thing. Personally, if Lucid is going to license software for autonomous driving, I'd rather have them license Waymo Driver. Waymo driver is currently more capable. I don't want this thread to devolve, but I also prefer Waymo's safety-first engineering approach.
 
TahoeMichael said:
Do you mean license Autopilot? Or license FSD? It's not clear from your post, and they're not the same thing. Personally, if Lucid is going to license software for autonomous driving, I'd rather have them license Waymo Driver. Waymo driver is currently more capable. I don't want this thread to devolve, but I also prefer Waymo's safety-first engineering approach.
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I don’t care who they license the tech from, but stop trying to recreate solid tech that already exists. It’s a waste of resources when folks actually want lots of other easy to create software like Android Auto (I know, it’s “coming soon”), less bugs, etc.
 
Ron_Burgundy said:
I don’t care who they license the tech from, but stop trying to recreate solid tech that already exists. It’s a waste of resources when folks actually want lots of other easy to create software like Android Auto (I know, it’s “coming soon”), less bugs, etc.
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Or they could just license cars from Tesla and white label them. Why reinvent the wheel?
 
borski said:
Or they could just license cars from Tesla and white label them. Why reinvent the wheel?
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My point was the self driving isn’t the biggest differentiator and I think most typical folks (not us on the forum) don’t care. They do care if a car rides well, seats are comfy, storage space, ergonomics, range…

Charging is a good example of why Lucid and basically everyone else IS using Tesla. Too expensive and too much time to build out the network like that. I see self driving-related tools the same way.
 
Ron_Burgundy said:
I don’t care who they license the tech from, but stop trying to recreate solid tech that already exists. It’s a waste of resources when folks actually want lots of other easy to create software like Android Auto (I know, it’s “coming soon”), less bugs, etc.
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If everyone licenses from one company, there won’t be any innovation.
 
The whole FSD thing from Tesla is mostly marketing to sell an expensive option. Tesla is not yet Level 3 certified in any state, so while they are moving in that direction, they have not yet convinced any states they are there. I believe Mercedes is currently the only manufacture selling Level 3 automobiles in the US and they are approved only in CA and NV. The road to "approved" full self driving (Level 5) is years away and as was mentioned above, many drivers are not really interested in that level of driver assistance just yet.

Personally, I would happy with a system that can drive my car on highways (only) and not require me to put my hands on the wheel every 10 seconds. And it would verify I'm paying attention at all times or disable the assistance. I understand that you need to option DreamDrive 2 Pro to get to that level of driver assistance.

Did I just open a can of worms? LOL
 
JoeMa said:
The whole FSD thing from Tesla is mostly marketing to sell an expensive option. Tesla is not yet Level 3 certified in any state, so while they are moving in that direction, they have not yet convinced any states they are there. I believe Mercedes is currently the only manufacture selling Level 3 automobiles in the US and they are approved only in CA and NV. The road to "approved" full self driving (Level 5) is years away and as was mentioned above, many drivers are not really interested in that level of driver assistance just yet.

Personally, I would happy with a system that can drive my car on highways (only) and not require me to put my hands on the wheel every 10 seconds. And it would verify I'm paying attention at all times or disable the assistance. I understand that you need to option DreamDrive 2 Pro to get to that level of driver assistance.

Did I just open a can of worms? LOL
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Totally agree, I use my Air’s DD Pro constantly (don’t tell @AirDoll ) if I need to quickly glance at an email or post on this or other forums. (Don’t hate me) But it works perfectly, my Tesla software was quicker but tried to kill me way more times then my Lucid’s. Lucid’s software feels like I’m in control, whereas Tesla’s made me feel like I was supervising a 7yr old playing a video game. Especially when it came to aggressive lane changes on ludicrous “lane change” settings.

The recent updates Lucid has made to ADAS in the Air are amazing, I love to imagine how good Gravity will be as Lucid is constantly working on both the hardware and software aspects of their ADAS. Which is great for all of us, as hopefully they’ll be some backwards compatibility with the earlier Air’s.

But as is my car is pretty perfect, so any additional stuff will be a cherry on top.
 
californiaboy935 said:
Totally agree, I use my Air’s DD Pro constantly (don’t tell @AirDoll ) if I need to quickly glance at an email or post on this or other forums. (Don’t hate me) But it works perfectly, my Tesla software was quicker but tried to kill me way more times then my Lucid’s. Lucid’s software feels like I’m in control, whereas Tesla’s made me feel like I was supervising a 7yr old playing a video game. Especially when it came to aggressive lane changes on ludicrous “lane change” settings.

The recent updates Lucid has made to ADAS in the Air are amazing, I love to imagine how good Gravity will be as Lucid is constantly working on both the hardware and software aspects of their ADAS. Which is great for all of us, as hopefully they’ll be some backwards compatibility with the earlier Air’s.

But as is my car is pretty perfect, so any additional stuff will be a cherry on top.
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I changed my order from DD2 pro to premium after reading the discussions on Lucid software issues. Sounds like DD pro works well on Air?
 
aijunli said:
I changed my order from DD2 pro to premium after reading the discussions on Lucid software issues. Sounds like DD pro works well on Air?
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I'm glad to have DD Pro in my Air for what it does now, and for what it may do in the future.
 
aijunli said:
I changed my order from DD2 pro to premium after reading the discussions on Lucid software issues. Sounds like DD pro works well on Air?
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I’d do DD2 Pro if it were me, just because who knows what functionality they’ll bake in after a few years. If you plan on keeping the Gravity for longer than a lease, I’d get the DD2 Pro features.
 
As I understand it, you have to option DD2 Pro to get lane-centering. I must have that at a minimum. But as you say, it will improve through OTA updates.
 
JoeMa said:
The whole FSD thing from Tesla is mostly marketing to sell an expensive option. Tesla is not yet Level 3 certified in any state, so while they are moving in that direction, they have not yet convinced any states they are there. I believe Mercedes is currently the only manufacture selling Level 3 automobiles in the US and they are approved only in CA and NV. The road to "approved" full self driving (Level 5) is years away and as was mentioned above, many drivers are not really interested in that level of driver assistance just yet.

Personally, I would happy with a system that can drive my car on highways (only) and not require me to put my hands on the wheel every 10 seconds. And it would verify I'm paying attention at all times or disable the assistance. I understand that you need to option DreamDrive 2 Pro to get to that level of driver assistance.

Did I just open a can of worms? LOL
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I agree that highway driving is what I mostly care about. It's very very rare that I do enough non-highway driving that I really want someone else to drive. That said, there is one scenario where handling the trip end-to-end would be valuable for me: driving me home after I've been drinking. I'd love to be able to have a few glasses of wine at a restaurant or a party and still be able to get home without calling a taxi/rideshare. Of course, that last scenario means that any form of "supervised" autonomy is not helpful.
 
TahoeMichael said:
I agree that highway driving is what I mostly care about. It's very very rare that I do enough non-highway driving that I really want someone else to drive. That said, there is one scenario where handling the trip end-to-end would be valuable for me: driving me home after I've been drinking. I'd love to be able to have a few glasses of wine at a restaurant or a party and still be able to get home without calling a taxi/rideshare. Of course, that last scenario means that any form of "supervised" autonomy is not helpful.
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It's gonna be a while until that is true; please, please, don't trust FSD to do this either.
 
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