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Some owners are overly apologetic for obvious flaws.It would be good to know why some owners are having high success rates with unlock while others are having such a different experience.
Some owners are overly apologetic for obvious flaws.It would be good to know why some owners are having high success rates with unlock while others are having such a different experience.
That may be true, but it is not the only truth. I've met them, they're not just saying it, their cars work better for some reason. What's really hard to tell without trading cars for a day is how much it works better for them because of them -- how they interact with the car, how patient they are, where they carry their phone/fob, how much of a swagger they walk with -- or because of the car. I think there is some of both.Some owners are overly apologetic for obvious flaws.
Sure, understood. I don't find myself idly hoping my Lucid will unlock though, I take my phone out and wiggle it around and 99% of the time it does unlock after a second because the phone wakes up and starts doing its thing. Not saying that's good, but a degree better than standing and hoping.I’m just saying anyone who says the Air is much better with phone access than a model 3 is fabricating a new reality.
I never ever sat outside my Tesla hoping and wishing it would mysteriously unlock on its own accord. It’s routine with the Lucid.
same (without the tesla part, I've never had one of those). my '25 AT with a pixel 8 pro. once in maybe 30 times I need to wake my phone up. But aside from that, zero issues with my phone as key or my key fob. yes, if I approach straight from the rear of the car, I have to come to the side a little or raise the phone / key, as I'm pretty sure the back of the car blocks the signal. but, I don't really stress or worry about that, I know how to handle it. I view my phone as being reliable enough that I will drive locally without a key (well I always have the card as backup). I take the physical key on long trips 'just in case'. But, I'm fully confident in being able to unlock the car and start the car with my phone. I could never say that about my polestar 2.My phone works without me doing anything 99% of the time (certainly a higher proportion of the time than it did with my M3P (which was about 90% of the time). If you count me waking up my phone and making sure the Lucid Ap is running? Well, then my phone has worked 100% of the time.
Sorry u are having this experience.
Some owners just genuinely have less of the problem. I’ve seen it firsthand, and some car/owner pairings do seem to just work fine.Some owners are overly apologetic for obvious flaws.
It sounds like this is major hardship for someI take my phone out and wiggle it around and 99% of the time it does unlock after a second because the phone wakes up and starts doing its thing.
I understand why it feels like a big deal to some owners. That said, I think we should reserve ‘major hardship’ for the really heavy stuff people are going through — this might not rise to that level.It sounds like this is major hardship for some.
Ok this made me laughI love driving the car, and Lucid's emulation of an old Datsun's locking system is charming.
You were definitely in the tiny minority with your Tesla - in 45k miles I have never had the mobile key not work automatically. I think you can bang on Tesla for a lot of things but their software is top notch and super mature, and just works. Of course, they’ve had quite a head start, but the decisions they have made with UI hardware and software have made it very easy on the owners.My phone works without me doing anything 99% of the time (certainly a higher proportion of the time than it did with my M3P (which was about 90% of the time). If you count me waking up my phone and making sure the Lucid Ap is running? Well, then my phone has worked 100% of the time.
Sorry u are having this experience.
I’m not saying it’s a major hardship by any stretch. It simply does not work very well and no where near as well as other manufacturers- specifically Tesla which works every time very well - ie I am not stuck outside for seconds half the time with my wife looking at me saying - why did you spend so much on this? It’s not a feeling I enjoy in the experience- many things outweigh it.It sounds like this is major hardship for some.
SAME!! I'm so annoyed with the fob and phone access! It's driving me crazy! And everything other car I owned I was able to just leave the fob in my bag and it worked fine! Plus I'm having serious problems with my phone connecting to the Apple CarPlay, have removed and re-added, etc. It's very flaky.Seriously. It's a good 15% of the time. I have my phone as a key and my FOB, often separate, and I walk up and nothing. It's not cold today it's 70f. My battery was just changed last week AND I got a faraday bag because of course you need that nowadays?
I feel SO stupid walking up to my $125k car and the doors not allowing me in. The mirrors don't move, the handles don't move, and I'm just standing there like an idiot pushing a handle that won't do anything.
This is my only complaint about this car in six weeks, but damn. It's a big one. I'm not comfortable without my FOB because the PAAK is unreliable, but so is the FOB. Less than six weeks in and I already had to change the battery.
Let me in my F'kin car ya?
Am I alone here?
You’re not wrong.I’m also not a brand fanboy ignoring the obvious issue with my head in the sand, because… Lucid… or trying dress down those who bring it up because they know it is there and they don’t like to speak of it and hear that in this area their baby is ugly. Telling anyone why raises it they are whining about a ‘major hardship’ is well, insulting their intelligence, frankly.
What I don't understand here is you seem to be arguing with no one. There's some disconnect here. We're all agreeing with you, but you keep saying everyone is just fanboying and telling you your problems aren't real. No, your problems are real and most of us - not all of us - but myself included, share them to some degree. I never meant to be dismissive with my previous reply, just to make sure you're not making it worse for yourself than necessary. It is the single most annoying thing about my car. I don't see anyone telling you otherwise. Just a few people saying they have personally had fewer issues, which is also valid.The only thing single more annoying thing than entry that doesn't work reliably is people telling you it works 100% and you are imagining it, or you should delete and add you phone, or whatever other excuse/blame is made up to divert/ignore reality and put it on the person. This is not a problem with the user 100% - let's stop the pretense of making it so. Mobile Key access is spotty at best, and I do not believe anyone who says it auto-presents as they walkup 100% of the time - they are living in made up reality.
I believe there are people that thinks it's perfect and go to great lengths every chance to say so, to defend the brand. I don't think that helps make the car any better, by making excuses or feigning ignorance.
I did say there are many things that outweigh it - it is a much much better car than a Tesla overall, but this one thing - and a few others in the software (such as not being able to put one app on the bottom screen and another on the top, no audio favorites reording on the Home Screen (so your only option is to reset and start over), profile switching taking eons, no channel changes in SiriusXM via steering wheel buttons) stand out as warts, and should be easily corrected.
I do push the door handle - after it doesn't unlock when I walk up and stare at it waiting for a few seconds, then after pushing I wait a random number of seconds to see if it might randomly pay attention this time, then sometimes after a few more seconds I have to take out and unlock my phone, launch the app and unlock, then wait some random time for the OTA unlock to happen. The whole time I feel like an idiot (who does all this and stares at their car in puzzlement in a Home Depot parking lot in the rain), and it's not at all the experience.
That’s just my opinion.
And before you do, please take your "you should just use the fob - it works 100% if you change the battery every day" and keep it to yourself, I ain't carrying a fob, capiche?
That is called troubleshooting. If you have already tried all the troubleshooting steps, then your problem is not solvable using those troubleshooting steps, and that is what you should say. Not the equivalent of “how dare you try to help me?”The only thing single more annoying thing than entry that doesn't work reliably is people telling you it works 100% and you are imagining it, or you should delete and add you phone, or whatever other excuse/blame is made up to divert/ignore reality and put it on the person.
Except that sometimes, it is. It is at least half the time that I help someone who *has never set up mobile key* but claims it doesn’t work.This is not a problem with the user 100% - let's stop the pretense of making it so.
No, and with all due respect, please stop insinuating people are lying. They aren’t.Mobile Key access is spotty at best, and I do not believe anyone who says it auto-presents as they walkup 100% of the time - they are living in made up reality.
Your anger and/or bias is lacing people relaying their experiences as a defense of the brand.I believe there are people that thinks it's perfect and go to great lengths every chance to say so, to defend the brand. I don't think that helps make the car any better, by making excuses or feigning ignorance.
Sure. I didn’t mean to imply you hated the car. Even if you did, that would be fine of course lol - plenty of people love other cars I don’t, and vice versa.I did say there are many things that outweigh it - it is a much much better car than a Tesla overall, but this one thing - and a few others in the software (such as not being able to put one app on the bottom screen and another on the top, no audio favorites reording on the Home Screen (so your only option is to reset and start over), profile switching taking eons, no channel changes in SiriusXM via steering wheel buttons) stand out as warts, and should be easily corrected.
I do push the door handle - after it doesn't unlock when I walk up and stare at it waiting for a few seconds, then after pushing I wait a random number of seconds to see if it might randomly pay attention this time, then sometimes after a few more seconds I have to take out and unlock my phone, launch the app and unlock, then wait some random time for the OTA unlock to happen. The whole time I feel like an idiot (who does all this and stares at their car in puzzlement in a Home Depot parking lot in the rain), and it's not at all the experience.
Cool.That’s just my opinion.
I didn’t say that, so please take the attitude and set it aside, as it is unnecessary. Moreover, don’t put words in my mouth, especially when “quoting” them, since that is not a quote from me.And before you do, please take your "you should just use the fob - it works 100% if you change the battery every day" and keep it to yourself, I ain't carrying a fob, capiche?
You seem to confuse the use of quotation marks around a hypothetical phrase (or paraphrase) readily for direct quotation, which it is not (I would use the quotation function of the forum for that as you see here), so please stop putting word-in-mouth-putting in my mouth. I have not said anyone is lying (as you just accused me of 2X - another big *stretch*), nor do I have anger and bias issues - all of which you just gattling-gun unloaded on me. There are some bias issue here though.Moreover, don’t put words in my mouth, especially when “quoting” them, since that is not a quote from me.
Anecdotally my mobile key has worked substantially better with 2.6.11 but maybe that isn't because of any intrinsic improvement in the firmwares of either car or phone...maybe there is just less interference lately in the 2.4 GHz spectrum where I park?Some owners just genuinely have less of the problem. I’ve seen it firsthand, and some car/owner pairings do seem to just work fine.
You were suggesting that might be my response. Given that is not something I have ever said, it is not a paraphrase either. But whatever, this is a dumb argument and I won’t belabor it.You seem to confuse the use of quotation marks around a hypothetical phrase (or paraphrase) readily for direct quotation, which it is not (I would use the quotation function of the forum for that as you see here), so please stop putting word-in-mouth-putting in my mouth.
I did not accuse you of lying once, and if you show me where I did I will happily remove it or rephrase it. I do not think you’re lying, nor would I intend to imply you were.I have not said anyone is lying (as you just accused me of 2X - another big *stretch*), nor do I have anger and bias issues - all of which you just gattling-gun unloaded on me. There are some bias issue here though.
Okay. Nothing *ever* works 100% of the time, so I agree with you.I do say I do not believe anyone who says MobileKey works 100% of the time - walk up and the doors instantly present as/before you are standing next to the door - and I stand by that.
Hard passWe could settle it with a challenge where walkup is done 100 times on video - for pink-slips?.
I agree with you that’s true for some users. I don’t know if it’s “most.” I simply don’t have the numbers; neither of us do.I do believe most users experience unexplained delays of intermittent time period when approaching the car - probably 5-10% of the time and it is frustrating, and they need to randomly resort to handle pressing or app using. It's the unpredictability which is truly annoying - ascyou never know what you are going to get.