2.8.0 Feedback Only!

Drove ~400mi from Orange County to the Bay Area yesterday on 2.8.0, most of it with Hands Free Drive Assist active in my 2023 Air Touring. Updated over the weekend so I can compare to the experience without HFDA on the way down.

- I was forced to override the system three times to avoid running off the road or into tractor trailers. Each time the road lines were either momentarily missing or washed out in the evening sun, and the car drifted out of the lane. Happened once in large truck traffic in the Grapevine and twice over the repaired bridges on the 5 near Patterson, where the repaired asphalt didn’t have new lines painted on the road. Drifted right off the road and I had to quickly readjust.
- Experienced phantom breaking only once compared to five times during the drive down last week on the previous software. Definitely improved.
- Direct Sunlight caused major problems for both lane detection and facial reading. Around 7pm driving into the sun through Pleasanton, the car suddenly demanded I take over driving and repeatedly had trouble finding my face while wearing polarized sunglasses.
- Facial detection would work fine for 2-3hours then suddenly go through areas it couldn’t find me and I’d have to remove my sunglasses … which wasn’t ideal driving into the blinding afternoon light.
- I could never get lane change assist to work, despite activating it in settings and dashed lines showing in the display. As soon as I’d engage the turn signal the display would switch to solid lines and not change lanes.

As a non-HFDA note, charging rate at the Kettleman Electrify America stop on 2.8.0 was very poor. Started out at 180Kw but it dropped much lower than usual, charging at ~20Kw from 60-75%. It was very hot (110F at the charger, 117F measured in direct sunlight back on the freeway) and the fans were making a lot of noise, so I’m assuming the super low rate was heat related.
 
@davidarogan, @Pure_Plebeian and others who are having this problem. The guys at the Natick (MA) were all over this. They were very aware that some customers were experiencing the same problem with this update. They had a workaround that involved putting the car into factory mode, flashing some software, then pushing the 2.8.0 software update to the car. After the 2.8.0 update, they had to take the car out of factory mode, and everything worked again. If you are having this problem, call your service center. If they aren't aware of this workaround, have them talk to Natick or perhaps you call them). they got me fixed up in a couple hours without the need to tow the car to a SC.
Thank you for the info. I will be calling the service center today.
 
Sadly I'm struggling with the the new update. The car can't see my face no matter where I position the steering wheel and my face. Also, there's 50/50 chance I even get to use assisted drive, sometimes it's just adaptive cruise control or not even that. I'm not sure why the system works sometimes and other times it doesn't (same freeway by the way). I can't even re-create the exact conditions of what causes the systems to work or not, it just seems to be ok in the morning and generally not as good at night.

To be clear, I've had dreamdrive problems ever since they updated it way back to make it more capable.
 
Sadly I'm struggling with the the new update. The car can't see my face no matter where I position the steering wheel and my face. Also, there's 50/50 chance I even get to use assisted drive, sometimes it's just adaptive cruise control or not even that. I'm not sure why the system works sometimes and other times it doesn't (same freeway by the way). I can't even re-create the exact conditions of what causes the systems to work or not, it just seems to be ok in the morning and generally not as good at night.

To be clear, I've had dreamdrive problems ever since they updated it way back to make it more capable.
Have you taken it to service? That would be my next step.
 
I got the upgrade couple days ago and my dream drive is no longer working. Steering wheel stays gray
I am waiting for them to send me a link to re-download it.
 
Update on the new hands free. For those who suggested to lower the steering wheel… that is not the issue as I suspected. Moving the steering wheel did not correct the bugs. There are specific spots where the HFDA cuts out for about 5 seconds. Same route, same places it disengages - that is from successive trips on the same I805 route On the I5 trip, it disengaged over a half a dozen times, again, count to 5 and it reengages. Something is amiss. Also, about 30 miles south of Los Banos, the road was bumpy, the hands free disengaged and never reactivated until I stopped an hour later in the Bay Area and rebooted the car. When it works, it is wonderful. When it doesn’t, well there are a few bugs to work out. Again, my steering wheel position is fine. If it isn’t, it will actually tell you if it can’t detect your face as I discovered moving the steering wheel around, For the bug issues, it just says, hands free not available in this area and returns 5 seconds later. Also, it doesn’t work in tunnels and on certain bridges, but I can respect that.
 
Drove ~400mi from Orange County to the Bay Area yesterday on 2.8.0, most of it with Hands Free Drive Assist active in my 2023 Air Touring. Updated over the weekend so I can compare to the experience without HFDA on the way down.

- I was forced to override the system three times to avoid running off the road or into tractor trailers. Each time the road lines were either momentarily missing or washed out in the evening sun, and the car drifted out of the lane. Happened once in large truck traffic in the Grapevine and twice over the repaired bridges on the 5 near Patterson, where the repaired asphalt didn’t have new lines painted on the road. Drifted right off the road and I had to quickly readjust.
- Experienced phantom breaking only once compared to five times during the drive down last week on the previous software. Definitely improved.
- Direct Sunlight caused major problems for both lane detection and facial reading. Around 7pm driving into the sun through Pleasanton, the car suddenly demanded I take over driving and repeatedly had trouble finding my face while wearing polarized sunglasses.
- Facial detection would work fine for 2-3hours then suddenly go through areas it couldn’t find me and I’d have to remove my sunglasses … which wasn’t ideal driving into the blinding afternoon light.
- I could never get lane change assist to work, despite activating it in settings and dashed lines showing in the display. As soon as I’d engage the turn signal the display would switch to solid lines and not change lanes.

As a non-HFDA note, charging rate at the Kettleman Electrify America stop on 2.8.0 was very poor. Started out at 180Kw but it dropped much lower than usual, charging at ~20Kw from 60-75%. It was very hot (110F at the charger, 117F measured in direct sunlight back on the freeway) and the fans were making a lot of noise, so I’m assuming the super low rate was heat related.
For the lane change, keep the turn signal pressed for a couple of seconds, until the screen says that it is engaged.
 
For the lane change, keep the turn signal pressed for a couple of seconds, until the screen says that it is engaged.
only true if you have long engagement enabled. If you enable short engagement for lane changes in the DD settings, then you don't need to hold it for couple of seconds.
 
Received the 2.8.0 update last night. Car still in the garage. Doesn't seem to be doing anything special.
Regarding hands free driving it work perfectly but I am still nervous about it. Over 55 years of driving and racing with both hands doesn’t go away like this.
The only problem I find, and it was like this with the previous version, is when I am driving on highway here in Quebec, the speed signs indicates the MAX speed above the MIN speed underneath.

The lucid camera always indicate a change in speed zone by reading the MIN speed which is incorrect.

I don’t know if Lucid intends to correct this false reading in a near future update
 
Just curious, for those who have installed 2.8 update, did it cause problems with Adaptive Cruise Control? After I installed, can't get adapted cruise control to work.
 
Curious on people’s feedback on the new update 2.8.0.

Those that got the update, how is the hands free drive assist? What is your experience? Does it work well or does it keep on d

Just curious, for those who have installed 2.8 update, did it cause problems with Adaptive Cruise Control? After I installed, can't get adapted cruise control to work.
mines the same. I have a ticket in with support. We’re supposed to get back to me later today with a plan.
 
Moving the steering wheel did not correct the bugs. There are specific spots where the HFDA cuts out for about 5 seconds. Same route, same places it disengages
Same here on the east coast. My best guess is it's having trouble determining which road we're on when there are overpasses or access roads close by. Nav systems lock onto a road and assume you're not teleporting, but maybe this safety system doesn't do that yet.
 
The update seemed pretty good in the 10 minutes I tried it out. A little scary in heavy traffic at first, but I'll get used to it when I road trip. Nice job Lucid!
 
For me, 2.8.0 may have introduced a new issue with the "Charge Limit" functionality. My vehicle now stops charging after about 15-20 minutes of active charging. It then takes a while before I can start charging again. The new Charge Limit feature was set at 80A by default, which may not be an issue as it is a "limit", but I set it to my wall unit capability of 48A. I've never had this problem before the release so this is new behavior. Service has been contacted.
 
is there a way to alternate DA Hands Off / Hands On on the fly?

I was driving on I5 from Portland to Seattle, and a good third of the way DA couldn’t see my eyes because of flare on my glasses. I would have loved to just enable Hands off while the sun glare was there instead of disabling DA all together.
 
Has anyone experienced an efficiency improvement with this update? I'm pretty sure that I have, About 0.25 - 0.50 increase. Or, maybe that's the piston rings wearing in on my 2025 GT, which now has over 3,000 miles on it now?
 
is there a way to alternate DA Hands Off / Hands On on the fly?

I was driving on I5 from Portland to Seattle, and a good third of the way DA couldn’t see my eyes because of flare on my glasses. I would have loved to just enable Hands off while the sun glare was there instead of disabling DA all together.
I don't know if it'll allow you to do this while in Drive or if there will be any unintended effects, but maybe you can disable HFDA in the DreamDrive settings while it's active?

The other option, and you probably already experienced this, would be to let the system automatically disable HFDA if it can't detect you within 5 to 10 seconds; it'll change to standard DA until it can adequately detect you again and automatically re-enable HFDA.

Has anyone experienced an efficiency improvement with this update? I'm pretty sure that I have, About 0.25 - 0.50 increase. Or, maybe that's the piston rings wearing in on my 2025 GT, which now has over 3,000 miles on it now?
That's right around when the motors start "breaking in" so that may be where you're seeing the efficiency gain from. Another recent update (2.6.16) improved efficiency of the front motors so that's another potential reason for the efficiency improvement.

Ideal weather conditions may also have played a role in the improved efficiency and vice versa (for example, one of my recent trips usually averages around 4.25 mi/kWh or so and I ended up with 4.09 mi/kWh this time around due to driving in a 10 mph slightly off-angled headwind).
 
I have had the following issues since 2.8.0:
1. Black central screen on the glass cockpit display. Happened twice. Both times had to exit and lock the car and upon returning in a few minutes the car would start normally.
2. The DA would not engage at all. The set speed would appear on the screen but grayed out. Happened once.
3. The HFDA would be intermittently unavailable and available on the same road. Happens relatively frequently.
 
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