2.8.0 Feedback Only!

I’ll echo others’ comments about the great improvement to performance with the release of HFDA.

I was suspicious that it was going to be a case of regular DA simply having the hands-on-wheel requirement relaxed, but the underlying system performance would be the same as 2.7.0 — no, lane-centering is much, much smoother and more natural and the system seems far more polished.
I didn’t have any serious gripes about auto lane changes previously, but even still I must admit that they have improved somehow.

Well done fellas! I genuinely don’t think I have any meaningful complaints about DD Pro any longer.

I'd like to hear more feedback from people on their overall experience with performance aside from it being hands free. Before the update, there were situations where I took over, not because the car made me, but because I didn't feel fully comfortable such as when approaching freeway ramps that curved a lot, and some other situations. It might be that all that was improved to the point that it works fine, but it's not something that I was going to test with my wife in the car.
 
@davidarogan, @Pure_Plebeian and others who are having this problem. The guys at the Natick (MA) were all over this. They were very aware that some customers were experiencing the same problem with this update. They had a workaround that involved putting the car into factory mode, flashing some software, then pushing the 2.8.0 software update to the car. After the 2.8.0 update, they had to take the car out of factory mode, and everything worked again. If you are having this problem, call your service center. If they aren't aware of this workaround, have them talk to Natick or perhaps you call them). they got me fixed up in a couple hours without the need to tow the car to a SC.
 
I got the update yesterday (8/7/25). I used it for about 80 miles total yesterday on three different divided highways here in NJ. FABULOUS update!! HFDA was flawless, turns are now smooth as silk and lane change assists were excellent. A flawless upgrade…and an excellent one at that!!
Did you also use it on the Garden State Parkway with all the curves?
I got the update yesterday (8/7/25). I used it for about 80 miles total yesterday on three different divided highways here in NJ. FABULOUS update!! HFDA was flawless, turns are now smooth as silk and lane change assists were excellent. A flawless upgrade…and an excellent one at that!!
 
Quick impression- handsfree is an ok feature- not too different from the standard drive assist- personally more likely to use regular assist as the camera sweet spot is very limited and its very strict. While I get annoyed by the nagging of regular assist, I'll take it over handsfree in this iteration. You really can't do anything else with handsfree, while regular assist allows you to switch the audio or handle the kids when needed etc.
(Wish the regular assist was touch sensitive on the steering wheel but that's not possible with the current hardware)

One additional software improvement would be a steering wheel selector between handsfree and regular assist.
 
Thus far my experience with HFDA has been essentially flawless. This is very unlike my 2017 Tesla MS which tried to steer me into a concrete wall…twice. I never used it after that.
 
I just did about 100 miles after the 2.8 update and have used Hands Free for about 80 of those miles. I have my steering wheel pretty low already so for me Hands Free has worked really well. Only have gotten 2 warnings to pay attention even with a little one in a car seat in the back (have a mirror which helps not have to turn around).

It definitely feels more refined. Though overall minor, it is a luxury not to have to constantly torque the steering wheel. I also feel more confident due to the refinement. Since I do have a 2 year old with me a lot, definitely am quite vigilant and hands are usually right next to the wheel. Have needed to override Hands Free urgently twice due to some situations mentioned previously (was anticipating I would need to). 1st situation was a left lane merging with the lane to the right in a construction zone with poor lane markings (wanted to hug left lane marking which was leading towards a corridor divider, didn’t want to risk how it would handle it closer to the divider). 2nd situation was less clear, starting to accelerate in stop and go traffic even tho car in front was slowing, might have reacted well but again with a kiddo I’m going to intervene quickly.

Actually surprised it was active in a lot of situations due to tons of construction in Sacramento right now. Handled all but the two situations above very well. No phantom braking mentioned by some others.

For me Lane Change Assist does seem to have changed a little and is pretty good but seems to go a little too far past midline of the target lane and then re-centers slightly which is subtle but feels unnatural (at least compared to how I change lanes).

Haven’t done a long journey but can already anticipate it reducing some of the fatigue that would come with a long drive mostly on freeways.

Overall impressed with this version especially considering it’s the first truly hands free version. Excited to use it and also hopeful for continued improvements given how things have gotten better in a fairly short time frame.
 
I just got off the phone again with Customer Care. She told me that I was supposed to release the buttons before the screens would go black. I read her the instructions Customer Care had texted me on the first call:

"3. Continue holding [the buttons] for about 30 to 45 seconds, until the screens power down and you hear a chime. [my emphasis]" She said I had been sent incorrect instructions and had me go back to the car where she walked me through the reboot process.

Doing it her way didn't work, either, despite three attempts where she ran a timer to tell me when to release the buttons and pedal. She created a service ticket and told me that a technician would get in touch later today or tomorrow.

I asked whether they were getting a lot of calls about ADAS malfunctions since the 2.8.0 update. She was a bit evasive, saying only that they're getting "some calls about things not working since the update."

This was Friday. I took the advice of someone on this forum to let the car sit overnight and try again. Today (Sunday) I tried again to reboot, and the car wouldn't. So still no ADAS and no ability to do a soft reboot (which is also an issue if I need to reboot for some other reason, as I occasionally have to do).

I was told Friday that a service ticket would be put in and I would receive a call about scheduling a service visit. No call yet. And our mobile tech, who has always been "Johnny On The Spot", now calls me about follow-up visits for our Gravity issues that are scheduled more than a week out. I'm getting worried that the once-prompt and stellar service from Lucid is beginning to show the strains of the Gravity release.
 
This was Friday. I took the advice of someone on this forum to let the car sit overnight and try again. Today (Sunday) I tried again to reboot, and the car wouldn't. So still no ADAS and no ability to do a soft reboot (which is also an issue if I need to reboot for some other reason, as I occasionally have to do).

I was told Friday that a service ticket would be put in and I would receive a call about scheduling a service visit. No call yet. And our mobile tech, who has always been "Johnny On The Spot", now calls me about follow-up visits for our Gravity issues that are scheduled more than a week out. I'm getting worried that the once-prompt and stellar service from Lucid is beginning to show the strains of the Gravity release.
The one instance in which I had a failed steering wheel reset was due to CarPlay confusing it as a Siri command. I’d actually try deleting your phone from Bluetooth and devices under connectivity, and try the steering wheel reset then. For some reason it didn’t recognize that I wasn’t trying to do Siri command even though I had held the mic/X/brake for a very long time so the car wouldn’t reset.
 
The one instance in which I had a failed steering wheel reset was due to CarPlay confusing it as a Siri command. I’d actually try deleting your phone from Bluetooth and devices under connectivity, and try the steering wheel reset then. For some reason it didn’t recognize that I wasn’t trying to do Siri command even though I had held the mic/X/brake for a very long time so the car wouldn’t reset.
I had a ‘not authenticated’ indication on Sirius the other day that prevented me from receiving any SXM channels. This wasn’t the typical ‘trying to reconnect/no internet’ issue I often get since I was still able to get Tidal.

I tried the steering wheel/brake approach to reboot, but all I got was the CarPlay pop up like Bunny mentioned. I wasn’t going to try the logo reboot since that hasn’t worked since a previous OTA update. However given the failure of the steering wheel reboot I decided to try the logo and suddenly that function did work. Of course that didn’t restore SXM either and their tech support was useless. A night’s rest did bring everything back to normal the next morning.

Interestingly, my friend who has a Genesis GV70 had exactly the same SXM issue on the same day and about the same time. His too didn’t restore until the next day.
 
I’m really impressed by hands free driving, last night going back home on I5. The switch from hands on to hands free and vice versa is very well done too (when you enter/leave a hands free zone)
 
The switch from hands on to hands free and vice versa is very well done too (when you enter/leave a hands free zone)
Can you elaborate for us newbs who do not own a Lucid? Does it do dump cruise control on city streets?
 
I had a ‘not authenticated’ indication on Sirius the other day that prevented me from receiving any SXM channels. This wasn’t the typical ‘trying to reconnect/no internet’ issue I often get since I was still able to get Tidal.

I tried the steering wheel/brake approach to reboot, but all I got was the CarPlay pop up like Bunny mentioned. I wasn’t going to try the logo reboot since that hasn’t worked since a previous OTA update. However given the failure of the steering wheel reboot I decided to try the logo and suddenly that function did work. Of course that didn’t restore SXM either and their tech support was useless. A night’s rest did bring everything back to normal the next morning.

Interestingly, my friend who has a Genesis GV70 had exactly the same SXM issue on the same day and about the same time. His too didn’t restore until the next day.
It sounds like Sirius is rolling out a new/enhanced streaming app. I'm guessing they in the process of bug fixes right now
 
I had the chance to try Hands Free DA for the first time yesterday, and I was quite impressed as well. Like others said, the lane centering and following turns was very smooth without the slight bouncing and correcting that was common with the DA before 2.8.0. I only wish that the 3-lane display in HFDA would show a curved lane as the car is following a curve.
 
I did a couple hundred miles yesterday with Handsfree and regular DA. Lanekeeping with Handsfree is quite good; still not so good with regular DA, which surprised me, but I guess the two modes use different algorithms. I did have Handsfree fail a couple of times with no warning whatsoever; I recall that one of those times was when the car was making a sweeping left turn and there was an offramp on the right. Immediate disengagement with a warning that Handsfree was unavailable. At this stage I still need to keep my hands on the wheel because those sudden cut-outs are problematic.
 
Can you elaborate for us newbs who do not own a Lucid? Does it do dump cruise control on city streets?
ACC works on city streets and you will get a big yellow warning that the lane centering part won't work. However, it still seems to work on numbered state and federal routes. That includes sections that slow down and pass through towns, which are essentially similar to city streets.

Lucid hasn't announced any plans to change any of this, but it doesn't mean that it will or won't change in the future. Different companies have taken a different view on local streets. The rationale for not doing it is that there are parts that it's incapable of doing, or not currently programmed for, such as respecting stop signs and traffic lights. So it's a given that drivers will need to take over. Other companies might allow it to work on the grounds that lane keeping on city streets isn't fundamentally different, and it's up to the driver to take over at intersections, if needed. There are also varying degrees to which it might be allowed by other companies. Tesla, in the past, disabled automatic lane changes for everything but limited access highways, but their system can change on a whim. I expect that Lucid will actually think things through.

Prior to getting a Lucid, I had a Tesla, which handles more types of streets. But I concluded that I'd rather have a nicer car that automates the sections that really need it. And I found that Lucid is better when it comes to lane keeping than Tesla in the sense that you can take over without turning it off. If you are using hands free driving but feel like being closer to one side of the lane based on what's next to you, you can do that with the steering wheel. When you ease up, it goes back to hands free on its own. Likewise, if you take over for a lane change, once it recognizes that you are in a lane, it will resume hands free.

Lucid's earnings call did say "with more to come." It doesn't tell much except that Lucid will continue to add features.
 
Sunglasses an issue?
Yes, I had to turn all of the driver attentiveness features off when I got the car because of this issue. Now the issue is back with the new update but it is not consistant. I engaged hands free with sunglasses off and everything worked great. Within seconds of putting on the sunglasses handsfree degraded to regular drive assist. A few minutes later hands free reingaged without any input from me. I took the sunglasses back off a few minutes later and the system degraded back to drive assist again. Doesnt seem to be any rhyme or reason for what its doing but system operates well in whatever level it chooses at any given moment. The facial recognition seems to be the problem consistant throughout.
 
After 2.8.0 update - Yesterday evening 6pm to 8pm
After the update cruise/highway assist/hands free would not turn on at all. After several tries I noticed that "Distracted Driver" and "Drowsy Driver" detection were off. So I turned them on assuming that they may be the root cause. I don't remember turning them off.

After today's ride -
After turning above 2 settings, today on the highway finally I was able to turn on "hand free", but within a mile it turned itself off. And asked me to take control at very high speed around 70mph. Error said - "unable to detect lanes" I have driven on that same highway at same spot with "highway assist" several times before.

With those issues, reached my destination and parked my car, didn't turn it off as I was waiting for someone. While coming back cameras turned off no signal/indicator cameras, no parking assist cameras etc.. Error said - Parking assist error and asked me to turn off the car. So I did.

After restarting the car Cameras were on everything was good. I was not on highway so I wanted to test adaptive cruise to see it's working. And it was, for 1/2 a mile all of a sudden same thing. Just turned itself off and asked me to take control.

Took it for an errand on local roads about 20 minutes ago, still could not turn on "adaptive cruise".
Took my Air for several rides on highways in the past few days, but so far never able to activate adaptive curise/drive assist/hands free for more than a mile or at the most few miles, that too only may be 3 times out of 10 rides. Anyone having such issues?

I have lowered by streering wheel's position, reset Air logo several times but no change.
 
Can you elaborate for us newbs who do not own a Lucid? Does it do dump cruise control on city streets?
Drive Assist works on most highways whereas Hands free only works on big freeways. So when the car detects that you are going to exit a supported freeway, it will warn you that you are going to leave the hands free area giving you enough time too put your hands on the steering wheel. Same goes the other way around when the car will let you know that hands free is enabled.

Really smooth
 
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