Lucid Comfort

[springbok]

I spent an hour driving the Lucid. An absolutely wonderful drive. My 6'1" son sat in the back seat. I understand the battery packaging under the back floor...but he said there was no way that he could spend more than a mimimum time riding in the back seat with his knees almost chin height because of how close the floor level was to the seat height.
When i rode back home in my Lexus LS its stuck me how comfortable the LS was compared to the Lucid. I believe that Lucid...and Tesla have missed an important 'boat'.
While the technology of the car is impressive, and range is superb, most drivers spending $139,000 coming from Lexus or MBZ and are used to interior luxury. At this expense...add another $5000 and pad the inside of the doors; the dash board; the rear seats....Think of your customer...not just the tech and mileage. I would have bought in a heart beat if my seating experience was more luxurious. Now...unless Lucid focuses on 'creature comfort' in their next revision...I was disappointed.

 

[WildRide47]

I spent an hour driving the Lucid. An absolutely wonderful drive. My 6'1" son sat in the back seat. I understand the battery packaging under the back floor...but he said there was no way that he could spend more than a mimimum time riding in the back seat with his knees almost chin height because of how close the floor level was to the seat height.
When i rode back home in my Lexus LS its stuck me how comfortable the LS was compared to the Lucid. I believe that Lucid...and Tesla have missed an important 'boat'.
While the technology of the car is impressive, and range is superb, most drivers spending $139,000 coming from Lexus or MBZ and are used to interior luxury. At this expense...add another $5000 and pad the inside of the doors; the dash board; the rear seats....Think of your customer...not just the tech and mileage. I would have bought in a heart beat if my seating experience was more luxurious. Now unless Lucid focuses on 'creature comfort' in their next revision...I was disappointed.

I just returned back home to Portland from my test drive at the Scottsdale studio. I agree with all that it is comfortable, quiet, handles well, with good brakes and great acceleration.

As has been reported, I have to remember to bend down low on entering the car because of the low roof rails or get my head bumped.

I loved the car in sprint mode but was disappointed in that steering wheel effort could not be reduced to that of swift mode while leaving it in sprint. Even my wife's 2013 Audi S4 has an individual mode where you can adjust the acceleration, suspension etc to suit your taste. The steering wheel effort is perfect on the highway, but a little stiff around town and at slower speeds. For the price of the AGT, I should be allowed to adjust it to my tastes. This is one advantage of the Dream vs GT. The Dream in swift mode has the lower steering effort around town while having the acceleration of the GT in sprint mode.

One other little thing. The car at the studio was a preproduction white Dream, while the test car to drive was a white GT. The least they could have done was to have different colors for the two cars. It's hard enough picking colors without seeing them. All it would have taken was a little thought, for whoever decided to have two cars of the same color at the studio. Poor judgement for a decision that is hard for many of us who are ordering the car without seeing all the colors.

 

[borski]

I spent an hour driving the Lucid. An absolutely wonderful drive. My 6'1" son sat in the back seat. I understand the battery packaging under the back floor...but he said there was no way that he could spend more than a mimimum time riding in the back seat with his knees almost chin height because of how close the floor level was to the seat height.
When i rode back home in my Lexus LS its stuck me how comfortable the LS was compared to the Lucid. I believe that Lucid...and Tesla have missed an important 'boat'.
While the technology of the car is impressive, and range is superb, most drivers spending $139,000 coming from Lexus or MBZ and are used to interior luxury. At this expense...add another $5000 and pad the inside of the doors; the dash board; the rear seats....Think of your customer...not just the tech and mileage. I would have bought in a heart beat if my seating experience was more luxurious. Now...unless Lucid focuses on 'creature comfort' in their next revision...I was disappointed.

See, I find this fascinating, because it is so clearly personal preference. After adjusting the seats to my liking, especially the thigh support, I have never sat in a more comfortable car, including my parents’ Lexus and previous Benz’s.

To each their own!

(No idea on the rear seats - I’m not 6’ and never sit in the back )

 

[Lucken]

I spent an hour driving the Lucid. An absolutely wonderful drive. My 6'1" son sat in the back seat. I understand the battery packaging under the back floor...but he said there was no way that he could spend more than a mimimum time riding in the back seat with his knees almost chin height because of how close the floor level was to the seat height.
When i rode back home in my Lexus LS its stuck me how comfortable the LS was compared to the Lucid. I believe that Lucid...and Tesla have missed an important 'boat'.
While the technology of the car is impressive, and range is superb, most drivers spending $139,000 coming from Lexus or MBZ and are used to interior luxury. At this expense...add another $5000 and pad the inside of the doors; the dash board; the rear seats....Think of your customer...not just the tech and mileage. I would have bought in a heart beat if my seating experience was more luxurious. Now...unless Lucid focuses on 'creature comfort' in their next revision...I was disappointed.

With your emphasis on rear seat comfort and the high floor, you have the option of a Lucid with a smaller battery and thus a lower floor. That will provide enhanced rear seat comfort.

 

[hmp10]

See, I find this fascinating, because it is so clearly personal preference. After adjusting the seats to my liking, especially the thigh support, I have never sat in a more comfortable car, including my parents’ Lexus and previous Benz’s.

To each their own!

(No idea on the rear seats - I’m not 6’ and never sit in the back )

The front seating and the back seating in the Air are two different kettles of fish.

The front seats are among the most comfortable I have ever found in a car. The adjustment range is immense, the leg room goes on forever, the extending thigh supports are killer comfortable, the padding density is just right for long and short hauls, and the massage function is very well executed.

My opinion of the rear seating is more complicated. I was so taken with Lucid's early claims about rear seat comfort on a par with large German luxury sedans (with which I had a lot of experience) that I was shocked on my first visit to a Design Studio to find my knees jacked up in the rear seat as much as in my Tesla, short though I am. I became so focused on this that I did not really absorb how much fore-aft legroom there was in the rear.

My view began to soften after driving over to Miami for a second visit to the Design Studio, this time with a 5'11" friend in the back seat of our Tesla Model S. He found the back seat of the Air to be quite comfortable and said it was a vast improvement over the Tesla. At that point, I decided that other aspects of the car were compelling enough that I would live with the disappointment in the rear seats.

Our next trip to a Design Studio was to West Palm Beach, where the display car had the smaller battery pack. Now that was the rear seating position I had hoped for in the Air -- every bit as comfortable as my personal benchmark for rear seat comfort, the BMW 7 Series. But, being a power junkie, I accepted that I'd have to live with the Dream's rear seating.

Now that we've been driving the car for several weeks and carrying all manner and sizes of friends in the rear seats, we've yet to find anyone who has anything other than praise for the rear seating comfort. I've been very pointed in telling them about my own disappointment in the rear seating and really urged them to be candid in giving their assessments. Everyone has assured me the seats are fine, to the point that I no longer get in the back seat as I do in our Tesla to spare them the tight packaging. I have ridden in the back seat of the Air a few times just so friends could experience the amazing comfort of the front seats, and I have been surprised by how comfortable I actually find the rear quarters myself.

I've concluded that my initial reaction to the rear seats was born of the shock of dashed expectations between Lucid's hyperbole about rear seating in the "space concept" and the reality of what battery modules under the floorpan entailed.

In living with it now, I find the "space concept" is a real thing. The fore-aft legroom front and back is simply amazing, as is the almost inexplicable width of the cabin, and the general airiness of the cabin.

 

[SaratogaLefty]

The front seating and the back seating in the Air are two different kettles of fish.

The front seats are among the most comfortable I have ever found in a car. The adjustment range is immense, the leg room goes on forever, the extending thigh supports are killer comfortable, the padding density is just right for long and short hauls, and the massage function is very well executed.

My opinion of the rear seating is more complicated. I was so taken with Lucid's early claims about rear seat comfort on a par with large German luxury sedans (with which I had a lot of experience) that I was shocked on my first visit to a Design Studio to find my knees jacked up in the rear seat as much as in my Tesla, short though I am. I became so focused on this that I did not really absorb how much fore-aft legroom there was in the rear.

My view began to soften after driving over to Miami for a second visit to the Design Studio, this time with a 5'11" friend in the back seat of our Tesla Model S. He found the back seat of the Air to be quite comfortable and said it was a vast improvement over the Tesla. At that point, I decided that other aspects of the car were compelling enough that I would live with the disappointment in the rear seats.

Our next trip to a Design Studio was to West Palm Beach, where the display car had the smaller battery pack. Now that was the rear seating position I had hoped for in the Air -- every bit as comfortable as my personal benchmark for rear seat comfort, the BMW 7 Series. But, being a power junkie, I accepted that I'd have to live with the Dream's rear seating.

Now that we've been driving the car for several weeks and carrying all manner and sizes of friends in the rear seats, we've yet to find anyone who has anything other than praise for the rear seating comfort. I've been very pointed in telling them about my own disappointment in the rear seating and really urged them to be candid in giving their assessments. Everyone has assured me the seats are fine, to the point that I no longer get in the back seat as I do in our Tesla to spare them the tight packaging. I have ridden in the back seat of the Air a few times just so friends could experience the amazing comfort of the front seats, and I have been surprised by how comfortable I actually find the rear quarters myself.

I've concluded that my initial reaction to the rear seats was born of the shock of dashed expectations between Lucid's hyperbole about rear seating in the "space concept" and the reality of what battery modules under the floorpan entailed.

In living with it now, I find the "space concept" is a real thing. The fore-aft legroom front and back is simply amazing, as is the almost inexplicable width of the cabin, and the general airiness of the cabin.

Ok so who is doing the driving when you are in the back seat? For myself, I don't see any situation where I will be in the back seat.

 

[hydbob]

Ok so who is doing the driving when you are in the back seat? For myself, I don't see any situation where I will be in the back seat.

Obviously, it's our butlers, initials go by DDP

 

[hmp10]

Ok so who is doing the driving when you are in the back seat? For myself, I don't see any situation where I will be in the back seat.

We have two adult drivers and two EV sedans in the household. We sort of mix it up car-wise and driver-wise depending on who's in the mood to drive and where we're going.

 

[SaratogaLefty]

We have two adult drivers and two EV sedans in the household. We sort of mix it up car-wise and driver-wise depending on who's in the mood to drive and where we're going.

Ok that makes sense. My wife will most likely never drive this car. I couldn't get her to drive the Panamera and she's already told me she is too afraid of putting a scratch on it to even think about driving it. Oh well, too bad for her!!

 

[hmp10]

Ok that makes sense. My wife will most likely never drive this car. I couldn't get her to drive the Panamera and she's already told me she is too afraid of putting a scratch on it to even think about driving it. Oh well, too bad for her!!

EVs can have a really weird effect on people. (I posted a while back about a lady near us whose husband had ordered a Tesla Model Y. She was on "NextDoor.com" seeking a course to take on how to drive an EV.)

One of our friends who is planning to buy an EV and has test driven the VW ID.4 absolutely refuses to get behind the wheel of either our Tesla or Lucid. I have assured him that, short of attempting anything crazy on the wide, flat, semi-rural roads out our way, there is virtually no chance of anything going awry -- all to no avail. Another friend who has already been driving his VW ID.4 for some months is likewise too skittish to get behind the wheels of our cars.

It may have something to do with our slamming their heads into the headrests too many times when we drive the cars in a feisty mood . . . although they've never yet refused a ride.

 

[CLTGT]

I have someone in the backseat of my car maybe once every three months, maybe even longer. While I like having a back seat, it is not a primary factor in my decision making process. Unfortunately, many of the other shortfalls are adding up to make me extremely nervous about my pending purchase.

 

[hmp10]

I have someone in the backseat of my car maybe once every three months, maybe even longer. While I like having a back seat, it is not a primary factor in my decision making process. Unfortunately, many of the other shortfalls are adding up to make me extremely nervous about my pending purchase.

I hope that some of your hesitation can recede as Lucid sorts out the software bug-a-boos which make up the vast majority of the issues owners are having.

As an owner who has had a few more early issues that most others, I can assure you I see them as minor in the scheme of things. For one thing, there have been far fewer hardware/build issues than with the Tesla Model S Plaid we bought in August. And they were resolved quickly and satisfactorily by Lucid service.

The software glitches continue, but I am seeing improvement with each update and am comfortable things will stay on this trajectory.

But, software issues and a couple of hardware fixes aside, at this point I am convinced I am driving the best car I've ever owned -- and I've owned my share of big-ticket luxury and performance cars.

 

[CLTGT]

Things like screen failures, body gaps, hinge issues, paint issues, door alignment, etc. really bother me to a great degree. This is probably because these items would, most likely, involve a trip to a Service Center, closest one is over 600 miles away. Software issues like locking/unlocking, Nav, Audio, Homelink, etc. bother me as well, but on a different level. They are items that even the most basic of car can handle on a routine basis, but should be remedied OTA. Software updates for "nice to have" items bother me the least. I do not expect the car to drive for me nor do I want it to. ACC will be about the closest thing I get to that.

 

[borski]

Things like screen failures, body gaps, hinge issues, paint issues, door alignment, etc. really bother me to a great degree. This is probably because these items would, most likely, involve a trip to a Service Center, closest one is over 600 miles away. Software issues like locking/unlocking, Nav, Audio, Homelink, etc. bother me as well, but on a different level. They are items that even the most basic of car can handle on a routine basis, but should be remedied OTA. Software updates for "nice to have" items bother me the least. I do not expect the car to drive for me nor do I want it to. ACC will be about the closest thing I get to that.

They will pick up your car and give you a loaner. You won’t need to drive it 600 miles in any case.

 

[CLTGT]

Yes, but 600 miles means extra days in-transit or at the Service Center in total. I have asked about service many times and am always given somewhat vague answers. They say they have the mobile service vans and authorized service locations (contracted), but they will never say who they are or where they are based. It is almost as if they are "hoping" I do not need service. I hope that as well, but I am not the one obligated to provide that service, just the victim if it is not adequate or convenient.

 

[stratus]

Yes, but 600 miles means extra days in-transit or at the Service Center in total. I have asked about service many times and am always given somewhat vague answers. They say they have the mobile service vans and authorized service locations (contracted), but they will never say who they are or where they are based. It is almost as if they are "hoping" I do not need service. I hope that as well, but I am not the one obligated to provide that service, just the victim if it is not adequate or convenient.

I have the very same concern , being almost 800 miles from the nearest service center. Will discuss with my SA tomorrow.

 

[borski]

Yes, but 600 miles means extra days in-transit or at the Service Center in total. I have asked about service many times and am always given somewhat vague answers. They say they have the mobile service vans and authorized service locations (contracted), but they will never say who they are or where they are based. It is almost as if they are "hoping" I do not need service. I hope that as well, but I am not the one obligated to provide that service, just the victim if it is not adequate or convenient.

I suspect they’re still building out that 3rd party network. I know of at least one authorized shop in LA. When we toured millbrae, they showed us the training shop and it was super in depth.

 

[CLTGT]

Yes, EVERYTHING seems to be California focused, but that is just natural since it is easier to oversee things closer at hand.

 

[borski]

Yes, EVERYTHING seems to be California focused, but that is just natural since it is easier to oversee things closer at hand.

What I mean is that they’re flying in techs from around the country to train them at Millbrae.

 

[Paladin732]

Yes, EVERYTHING seems to be California focused, but that is just natural since it is easier to oversee things closer at hand.

It’s not just that, my husband is with his family in Ohio this week. He has not seen a single EV on the road there. Here in the SFBay area? You can’t go anywhere without seeing a bunch of them.

Different areas of the country are adopting EV at different speeds. They are focusing on those first.

As for the comfort, definitely is a personal preference. Granted, I’m 5’6”, but when we went up to Napa I could lay down flat in the backseat and relax super easy. I also had no problems with my knees being high.

That said, I also absolutely hate driving SUVs which are all the rage today. I don’t like being that high off the ground, or having to reach up to get into the vehicle.